Be brutally honest about how you play.
Say your controversial opinions about game balance. No sugar coating. Ill start.
I use moris because they are fun. I know they aren't balanced, and I don't care.
I don't use keys because they aren't fun for me. Unless the killer is right there, and its a narrow hatch escape, keys aren't rewarding.
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Same as you, I use whatever I want and I don't care who bitches about what's "unfair". If it's in the game, then it's free to use
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As killer (IG+FD+BW+LB) I am extremely toxic and it is the only way to have fun:
- (1) tunnel, (2) do the tornado, (3) facecamp++, (4) torture on hook while nod head, (5) repeat
As surv (Bond, SC, Sabo, HO):
- (1) spam lockers to HO at the beginning, (2) wander around to break hooks and force wiggle out, (3) tbag, (5) try to loop, (5) repeat
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As a killer I try to play as fair as possible until I get slaugered by the survivors. Then I will play as toxic as I can to get revenge
As a survivor, i try to be sneaky, i dont want the killer’s attention.
I t-bag if the killer camp early in the trial for no specific reasons. Or if he tunneled to death someone who got unhooked.
I can play as fair as I can be toxic
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I don't really have a unpopular way of playing. I try to play fair as I can as both sides. Though, if I'm losing really bad I might Proxy camp. I try not to though.
Admittedly, if I get BMed first and I'm having a bad day I'll probaby BM right back.
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i play to win.
im trying to be a nice killer / survivor, but that doesnt mean i wouldnt tunnel someone if they were the only one i found or that i wouldnt loop you into oblivion.
im trying to avoid toxicity though.
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Unless there’s a really juicy gen interrupt that I see on BBQ. I usually proxy camp.
For some reason, I get a lot of stealth Survivors. So once I have leverage to force people to interact with me I use it
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I will slug a lot to create good pressure on survivors,
I will tunnel out someone early out of the game if I see a lot of medkits, toolboxes, my totems get cleansed early etc
I will sometimes let a teamate go to second phase hook if I am far away doing a gen, I am sorry but I am across the map, someone else most be closer, right?.
I play to win
If I keep Seeing like 3 spirits in a row or slingers, maybe even Freddy I will die on hook and go next. I want a variety of killers. Anything please, infinite myers, ebony mori Piggy, infect Nurse. I dont wanna face the 3 no brain (no hate) killers over and over again.
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As a killer, I give what I get. I usually try to take it pretty easy and run chill builds in regular queues. But if you try to BM or bully squad me then I'll give that right back. I regularly play against competitive 4 stacks with 10k hrs combined. The average loltoxic bully squad doesn't have a good time.
As a survivor, I'm pretty normal and fairly meta. Nothing really crazy. I just try to get in and fill whatever role is needed to escape. Only interested in getting in and out as quickly as possible. More than happy to afk on gens for 5 minutes.
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Brutal truth: I try to play in a way that balances my desire to score points with my desire to not ruin the game for everyone else.
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Since I main Legion and Clown I kinda have to play rough if I want to win. I try to be as fair as I can however and only tunnel if the unhooker is nowhere to be seen or I'm losing badly. As survivor I don't really do anything toxic. I don't teabag, flashlight spam, bring keys, or bring the small pp build.
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I try my best to make Reverse Bear Trap kills happen. If I suspect someone's timer is low, I will drag them across the map and let them try to make it back to where they were searching.
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As a killer I play as fair as possible without cucking myself. However I will take advantage of every opportunity to put myself in a position to win.
I tend not to be near hooks, as I play a very aggressive style, constantly hooking and attacking. But I will no longer reward an unsafe unhook, if you unhook in front of me, you better have BT. If not, well your buddy better have DS or back on the hook.
I won't use mori or noed, but that is my preference. Noed from old school killer days, when Killer's would call you bad for using it, stuck with me.
Mori because I have played so long now, I enjoy the challenge and don't need anymore advantages. If games go tough, I get out my spirit and slaughter for awhile.
As a survivor I do everything I can to win, or help my team win. As a long time killer main, I strategize every second I play survivor and know exactly how to put the most pressure on the killer. Survivors forget that pressuring the killer is just as important as the reverse. I will always do gens, totems, saves, heals etc, as the game dictates. I am still trying to loop and I lose more chases than I win, but if I am going down, I will lead you as far away from the objectives as possible.
I will not use keys or flashlights, because I never have and probably never will.
And win or lose, GGs.
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I tunnel hard all the time. It's more efficient to get someone out early than it is to just try to hook all of them one by one. Find the weak one and tunnel them into oblivion.
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I will tunnel the absolute ######### out of you if you annoy me. Even ifs it’s on accident idc if all your teammates leave I will literally bring and ebony mori and kill 1 person with it if I feel like they’re gonna be annoying
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I play this game to have fun.
yeah I know. I am weird.
if the other side doesn’t go out of their way to make the game miserable for anyone on my side/me then I am playing super fair and I give hatch to last or hook/sacrifice if killer didn’t get much in the game.
i do try to get my daily’s/challenges/achievements done first though. So if I need a 4 K I will not give hatch.
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Ha I'm guilty of this too. Sometimes the survivors are all grouped up at the beginning so I just figure I might as well just try to finish the match then and there with infectious.
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I don't have too much things to say about general balance that hasn't been said already.
I don't use moris, in my opinion they ruin the survivor experience and they don't even reward me with enough points.
I like to use keys, they are powerful and u can use them in many ways, rarely i use them to scape through the hatch tho, (weird isn't?)
When i play survivor i don't think there too many different ways to play, cause u have a few straight forward objectives, and not too many variations on how to commit to them.
When i play killer, my strategy and how i elaborate, depends completely on how i feel about the survivors i am facing.
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When killer: I kill as fair as possible, not when the survivors really piss me off
When survivor: I rescue good survivors but ditch noobies
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When Survivor I play to escape, when Killer I play for the 4K. Anything that helps me achieve either goal is fair game for me.
Aa for a controversial opinion, Moris and Keys are completely balanced, not because on their own they are balanced, but because together they achieve a strange balance.
Both serve the same purpose, end the game early. Both require some work of some form. *Using Ebony Moris and Pink/Purple keys as reference*
For a Mori, a Killer has to win a chase, hook the Survivor, and than win a chase again. Yes the Killer can tunnel, yes they only need to hook a Survivor once to Mori them, but baseline you still need to meet that requirement.
For Survivors, you just need to survive long enough for the hatch to spawn, and occasionally have the luck to find a key in the chest in the first place. But that's it. You don't need to touch a gen to charge the key, rescue a certain number of Survivors off the hook, escape x chases. Just hold the key, find hatch, press x to win.
Both items, incredibly broken, items which on their own would completely destroy the little semblance of balance both sides have, work because they have the other. Guess it's akin to a nuclear standoff, though each side happily uses their all the time
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The brutal honest truth is that I unironically don't camp or tunnel people. I don't genrush except in gertain circumstances (like this one Video I posted where we tried to genrush asap) nor do I like to bm unless the killer starts it first.
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As a killer: I play to win and I'm going to do anything to achieve that. I won't slug for the 4k because that wastes too much time and I won't intentionally go camping all game or tunneling all game, but if you go for last second rescues I will be there to make sure that someone hits next stage, and if I'll occassionally eat your DS - you are the target number one for me.
As a survivor: I play solo so I'm running good info perks to do what other people won't. Sometimes it is sitting on the gen in the corner, sometimes it's risky rescues, sometimes it's totem hunting. No strict plan.
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I just want to chase people as killer and that can have all sorts of results. Might make me slug, might make me chase a recently unhooked person as if I see no one else that's still a chase, but also might make me let 2 people get saved from the basement as I'd rather have a potentially fun chase than getting bored making sure they die, as I personally don't find that fun.
As survivor I just want to interact with the other survivors and the killer. Teamwork, mindgaming the killer, iron will plays and wacky perks like Diversion even. I'm not gonna ignore objectives to chase the killer around or anything though, I'll wait for my turn to be chased and I will do something productive whenever I can.
All in all works for me. I do just fine and I've figured out it's how I have the most fun, so it's what I'm gonna do.
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Survivor gameplay, no matter what build, is too boring to me.
Now i'm almost a Killer-only player instead of a Killer-main.
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I play to win on both sides. On survivor, I'm always or for the most part either doing gens or looping the killer, only cleansing totems if I need to and same with getting saves. I don't bring items unless I'm prestiging (which I can't do until the new survivor comes out since all my survs are P3-50) I don't bring unfair map offerings like Ormond and Haddonfield.
On killer, I only play Ghostface so I'm not the strongest killer but at rank 1, sometimes you have to tunnel which I will do if I have to. I don't bring mories though, they are uninteractive for both sides. If you be toxic to me, I'll be toxic to you but I'll never be toxic first unless someone tries to run an infinite like crotus prenn or goes out of their way to annoy me like using object and following me around, then it's fair game.
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Killer-only player instead of a killer main?
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I play for 4BBQSTACKSBABY...then I hit em with my kerosene can on Clown....in all seriousness I try to play so that I and survivors enjoy the game.
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I play my way and don't care how anyone thinks what so ever. all negative comments are deleted after being reported on my profile.
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I like gen-rushing.
I go against too many Freddy’s to not like it.
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As survivor I do gens when I'm not being chased, heal every time I'm injured and don't go for hook saves unless I have to. Never willing to get myself killed for randoms, so if a random gets hooked in endgame and the killer doesn't have noed I'm still leaving. I used to save people during endgame but they never returned the favor so I quit.
As killer I hate using moris and I tunnel when I'm getting gen rushed. If I'm not getting gen rushed I won't ever tunnel or camp. I'm not usually sweaty and I usually let people get hatch if they played well.
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In most circumstances I'll play fair. In fact, I have a friend who's a killer main who says I am too nice of a killer.
However... that goes out the window if 1 of 3 things happen.
- I see you bring a key. You are going to get tunneled out of the match as quickly as possible.
- You do something really dumb. Like, if you try to unhook and I'm within 18m on Deathslinger, I'm going to shoot you off the unhook. Double that if you then use DS to get out of it. If you just got unhooked and literally run into my face, I'm going to stab you and pick you up. If you then stab me in the face for your mistake... nah that don't fly. I'm going to tunnel you.
- All gens get done. Defending doors against more than 1 person is impossible so when that happens, I'm going to get a person on hook if I don't have one, then pitch a tent and Proxy Camp. The guy on the hook is the only objective left on the map. I have nowhere else to be anymore.
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This has got to be a nightmare for new players and boring for experienced players... but you're absolutely right! It's the most efficient way to play.
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Doctor and Spirit are my favorite killers so far. I sometimes proxy camp hook when I know a survivor is gonna go for the save soon. However, I never tunnel. As a survivor, I mainly stealth around and I'm not too good at looping. I don't tbag and I'll sometimes wait by the exit gates to let the killer get another hit on me if they deserve some extra points
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Doctor and Spirit are my favorite killers so far. I sometimes proxy camp hook when I know a survivor is gonna go for the save soon. However, I never tunnel. As a survivor, I mainly stealth around and I'm not too good at looping. I don't tbag and I'll sometimes wait by the exit gates to let the killer get another hit on me if they deserve some extra points
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I start every match looking for teammates and if one of them gets injured I start a gen lol. Also, urban evasion is amazing if you like getting up close and personal with the killer-- I have gotten away from them so many times on very basic maps, and it's also wonderful against Hag and Pyramid Head. I also can't stop myself from being friendly with killers, so I usually loot a chest and leave the item for them as a lil 'thank you for playing well' gift... unless it's a ranger medkit because mama needs that bad lol! Oh, I also like to point at people's crotches before unhooking them because it's funny and I can't help it :)
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As survivor which I play mostly I never t-bag and stuff I just try to escape as fast as possible. Never hook suicide I want my team to make it. When you are a part of a team you must be a good teammate, that is how I think and play.
Now as killer I never use moris because they are not fun for me. How do I play well it depends on my mood and on the game. I can play a nice killer or I can be not so nice, but a killer is a killer. But tunneling is something I avoid because I hate when killers do that to me. Camping is ok and sometimes I proxy camp when I think I will lose otherwise but mostly I do this late game.
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I hate playing survivor. I win cuz me and my teammates hold M1. I lose cuz teammates cant be bothered to hold M1. It's boring. I stopped playing the game when i was having a horrible time playing survivor to get archive challenges. Came back to the game and I now basically only play killer.
As killer, I hate gens. I hate worrying about them. I absolutely hate how bad of an objective they are. They are so mind-numbingly easy to complete and they are so safe because of how they are spread. I can count with a single hand how many matches i've lost because of actual survivor skill, and them actually properly outplaying me. I do not remember how many matches I have lost because survivors hold M1 even though I outplay them in chases in less than 20 seconds, its the single most common reason I tunnel, slug or lose.
If I were to change anything about this game, I would just like to change it so that gens are harder to do and less safe, not necessarily that they take longer, though. Gens are boring for survivors as they are, I dont want them to have to hold M1 for longer... If gens are made harder and less safe, there you go. I never have to tunnel or camp again, and at that point and only at that point, I hope the game literally nukes killers for tunneling and camping...gens are the single worst thing in this game for me.
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I use slowdown perks even on strong killers because I set my expectations too high for myself
that and usually the slowdown perks are for survivor protection, I usually end up with 7-8 (all or almost all survivors on deathhook before any survivor is killed on hook) hook before anyone dies games if ruin undying is still up, if the slowdown perks (mainly ruin undying) are down the survivors have challenged me to a race and if I see gens start moving fast you bet the next survivor I see is going to be tunneled fast as well because I just enjoy slow games and you can't have that with 4 alive survivors and no slowdown perks
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Yes, a Killer main mains Killer, but can also still be someone who plays some Survivor.
Killer-only means no Survivor at all, or at least so rarely that you can't really count it.
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How do we lure you back to some surviving? I've evolved into almost a surv main myself but that's mostly due to my Xbox1 frames more than anything else. Being a lowly console killer is, err, unpleasant.
Sabo/wiggle fun? Head-on plays? Friends? Boops? A bud of mine whenever we face Plag will do nothing but chase my ass around all game puking on me, and obviously throwing the game. Other times we leapfrog the pallets no matter which killer.
There must be a way...
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I'm a masochist and tend to play meme builds at Rank 1.
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I don't understand the whole play fair. I'll play in whatever way I think will get me a win and that varies team vs team. I had one game where I was losing and I had to slug to stop gens from getting done, if I picked any of them up that would buy the group enough time to complete the gen. At literally the last gen I went and changed my win condition from getting enough hooks to win to slug them until they bleed out. 3 players bled out that game, that I would have otherwise lost. They actually complimented me in the end game for turning that game around. Extremely good sports, I'm sure that match must have been miserable for them.
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I can be the fairest killer ever, sometimes letting everyone escape if i had a good time.
At the first sign of BM something goes off in my brain and I'll be the shittiest killer ever and the whole team pays for it. I go from nice elf to a bloodthirsty animal.
The other day the last of a clicky clicky team was downed... I let her bleed out... I just got up and went to take a ######### and make a sandwich after.
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I like keys more than moris. First because I can have aura readings with them, and I love that. Second is that you still need number of survivors + 1 gen to have a hatch escape, unless you're the last one. So usually you need to really work for it. It's not like the mori you can just hook once and then tunnel without being worried of any penalty.
I used to run them with the ring that lets me see the obsession the whole time, but since people seem to believe I'm just gonna wait for everybody else to die for a hatch escape, I've been using it less and even saving them for the archive challenges.
About game balance, I just wish matchmaking was better, so that I don't get paired with survivors much better than me as killer and killers out of my league as survivor. Happens way too often
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I tend to ignore mori and keys but every once in awhe when I'm feeling saucy I'll indulge.
I usually keep a rule not to tunnel or camp unless they are just not showing the hook respect or teabagging, that's an automatic tunnel.
As survivor I am a scared little clown, I will hide and metal gear stealth mission everything. I love hiding in plain sight lol
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Trust me when i say i want to enjoy it, it's half of the game i bought.
And there is a way: For me, Survivor needs something brand new, not just new.
So i mean: No new Perks with 1 having a gimmick-y mechanic like Red Herring, Any Means Necessary, or For The People.
You know what was brand new? Obsession, Hexes, EGC to a small degree.
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I use mori sometime I think they fine but need rework same with keys
I normal play fair on each side make it fun but if as killer facing sweat team glove come off.
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I will camp you if you are SWF, I don't care, and I know the SWF menatility will more likely get them all killed. This is more fun than playing a round that was completely one sided from the beginning.
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I play the two killers that are (imo), probably the top two easiest to play that are also deadly all the way from their low tier to high tier perks - Nurse and Freddy.
I started with Nurse, which the majority here seem to think requires some godly amount of skill and investment of time to learn but, after a few games of whiffing blinks here and there, I eventually got her down pretty well. Whiling learning her, I was also still new to everything else - I didn't know the maps, the strategies survivors use, I knew jack-sh** about perks and add-ons and offerings...yet still was wildly successful with her. I think that speaks to her deadliness, even in the hands of a noob. I got all purple perks on her now, not even a single one of them being what those here would consider to be her top tier meta perks, and even so, I was winning too much with her and it became boring, so...I moved on to Freddy!
Freddy in particular I just like as a character, but as a survivor, I played against him one time and that game made me want to try him out. I particularly like his passive ability of putting everyone to sleep and causing them to have to deal with that aspect while also repairing gens. Ontop of that, placing traps on the go? Really helps shutdown the looping. I'm still stuck with green perks on him but, in my experience, compared to Nurse, I've been doing a lot better with Freddy early on than I did with her. Possibly just because I'm overall more experienced by the time I started with Freddy but could also speak to his deadliness at low level.
My playstyle for Nurse: Obviously, shut down the loops by blinking through whatever is between me and the survivor. I love playing the juke back and forth game with survivors for a few seconds, getting them into a rhythm before I teleport over and slash them. I've had so many cocky little survivors taunt me as Nurse and then get downed with a crisp blink and slash - it's very satisfying.
With Freddy: Traps-galore! I place them everywhere - on the generators, around hooked survivors, obviously in loops once I'm in a chase with someone. I've gotten numerous hate mail while playing him from people accusing me of camping when really, even when I'm out hunting, his traps combined with the perks I run just allow me to be extra aware and informed about where survivors are and what they're doing. So yeah, I run back to the hook where a survivor attempting a save is screaming their head off running through my traps, and I clean up. Just good defense is all. :)
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I play only surv because I don't want to destroy survs, and I let the killer kill me if he/she plays fair.
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I play to win, but I don't go out of my way to stomp on people who aren't at the same level as me, they will all die in the end but if they are obviously worse than me by a fair amount then I will often go out of my way to let the recover and such. That being said I do what I must to win, if it's a swf sweat squad you better believe I am going to play like an animal.
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