Do you try to unhook yourself in front of another survivor that came to save you?

I know it's scummy kinda, but points are points, and it's funny if teammates meme with me when I do unhook myself, I also meme with them if they do the same thing to me tho.

Points are Points, and Survival Points trump all

Only in swf. I like to mess with my friends >:)

I also love this with Deliverance. Like "cant waste the perk!" and eating the broken status, stealing the 1000BP from the unhooker and most likely go down easily while being broken soon

yeah, and you get the 1k while denying the other guy 1.5k

Also like to selfcare into others faces?

Well, you should think about that. Ever got a kobe into your face? You said yourself it is scummy, so you got the answer already

And most thrilling thing is when the other one DCs, or lets you go to second stage after a failed attempt. Well, I guess it is a pretty subjective topic

It's rare, but when I actually manage to 4%, it's hilarious when another Survivor just sees me do it. The reaction is usually priceless.

Preach. Especially WGLF ;_; That one stack of WGLF is usually worth like 5-8k BPs, in addition to the 2-2.5k you get for the unhook and the subsequent heal that you might refuse to do if someone kobes in your face. So, not only are you costing them like 10k BPs and other possible useful effects, like 90 seconds of We'll Make It, in exchange for 1.5k points for yourself, you're also causing them to entirely waste all of the time they spent running over to the hook.

It's such a dick move.

Does it bother you that you're wasting more BPs for your teammate than you get for unhooking yourself? I run WGLF on all of my characters. Every time someone does this to me it costs me like 5-8k BPs for a WGLF stack, 1.5k for the safe unhook, 500-1k BPs for the heal (because there is no chance I'm healing someone who does this to me), and all of the BPs that I gave up running to the hook instead of doing gens, totems, etc. And this is just the BPs side. You could be denying a We'll Make It proc that would otherwise give you a quick heal and bail the team out down the line, for example.

It is not easy to max your WGLF stacks in a match while also trying to win. Missing out on a stack from an unhook you commit to is very likely to be a stack you never make up.

I 100% disagree about letting people hit struggle state being toxic. You might as well sucker punch someone and then claim they were in the wrong when they hit you back. Letting someone struggle hurts the team in the short term, but it helps the survivor side in the long term. If people frequently react to kobes in this way, people will stop trying to do it. Since this behavior hurts the team, in addition to being selfish and dickish, eradicating it is a good thing for survivors.

It's exactly the same reason that you should rush gens instead of feeding the killer free pressure when they decide to camp someone to death. If they learn that camping is a viable strategy, they will continue to do it. If they learn that it leads to boring 1ks, they will stop.

It's pretty obvious you're not going to change my mind, and I'm not going to change yours. You clearly care way more about BP than I do and to me it just seems ludicrous. Today I also learned that intentionally sabotaging the match out of spite isn't toxic if the person being sabotaged cost you an out of match resource, let alone the fact that you're also sabotaging the other people in the trial in most instances since they're less likely to escape. It just seems counterintuitive as well, if they fail to jump off then just grab them off for the stack, then you don't lose a chance of a WGLF stack to struggle phase, hell, you could even take a prot hit for them if you stick around and earn 2 tokens instead of harming everybody on your team.

Everybody has to look out for their own BP, and using that as a reason to harm literally everybody sans the killer just seems toxic, spiteful, and rude

It's not just about BPs. It's about a fundamental lack of empathy and a "######### you, I got mine" attitude. I see enough of this crap in society and I have no patience for it.

Kobeing in someone's face is sabotaging the match in its own right. You wasted your teammate's time, you denied valuable perk procs, and you destroyed the mutual trust between you and that teammate. This will hurt the team, since you now have to expect that player to play selfishly. When you can no longer trust that player to make the right play for the team you are forced to play sub-optimally. Even making an unsuccessful attempt to Kobe in someone's face does this.

By all means, make a selfish play for some survival BPs if you'd like, but call it what it is. Don't give me a shocked pikachu face and blame your teammate if they choose to teach you a lesson. Actions have consequences.

It's funny that you're saying "You clearly care way more about BP than I do and to me it just seems ludicrous" while also saying "It just seems counterintuitive as well, if they fail to jump off then just grab them off for the stack, then you don't lose a chance of a WGLF stack to struggle phase, hell, you could even take a prot hit for them if you stick around and earn 2 tokens instead of harming everybody on your team." It's counterintuitive because I don't actually care as much about BPs as you think I do. I am sometimes willing to forego a WGLF stack and risk a worse result in that particular match in order to benefit myself and others in future matches by teaching a selfish teammate a lesson about doing the right thing for the collective. This is far more important to me than BPs.

Ok, I understand your point more now, I still don't agree with your methodology though. It's clear we're not going to change each others minds, so it's better here to just stop wasting our time on bickering online.