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The Twins: The weakest killer since DBD release 2016

PNgamer
PNgamer Member Posts: 1,415

Don´t get me wrong, but this is the weakest and hardest killer ive seen since 2016.

Easy to loop and to counter, specially Victor.

Any other opinions ?

Comments

  • Chilli_man2400
    Chilli_man2400 Member Posts: 2,919

    I completely agree just look at my tier list they absolutely suck He’ll I appreciate Clown a lot more he may suck but at least he’s threatening if played right.

  • PNgamer
    PNgamer Member Posts: 1,415

    well hes not easy to play and i understand this, but jeez hes so easy to counter. If you ask me he is absl. low tier atm. Pallets also block Victor and it make it much harder.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    It's so easy to just genrush them. Although they excel at camping. What an awful design

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    I don't know about that, I've been playing them for 5 hours straight and didn't lose single game (all were 3k or 4k games), all survivors I faced were decent at minimum even quite a few good ones. With a lot of other killers I would do far worse imao, twins are horribly bugged right now and miss a few feature but they're definetly not weak.

  • PNgamer
    PNgamer Member Posts: 1,415
    edited December 2020

    do you play her on red ranks ?, a horrible experience i can tell you

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited December 2020

    That just means you are very good at the game, which is great if that is what you were hoping to hear- but rest assured this killer is not good. If you had been a better killer you would have done much better than you did with them in every game; your performance had nothing to do with the killer I can promise that much.

  • Exellen
    Exellen Member Posts: 49

    He's very strong actually, and you cant loop good victor at all, he also can camp and have extreme benefits of slugging.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Ofc I do, I wouldn't comment otherwise if I stomped green rank potatoes. The wort part of playing twins for me wasn't anything gameplay based but he bugs, it sucks so much to get stuck in floor for 90s, I've almost lost a few games because of that, almost.

    @Echorion I was mainly using victor in chases so it can't be only me beiing good at M1 killer (ofc my general experince and decision making had huge impact) but the fact that twins powers is actually pretty strong when you use it properly.

    I'm far from mastering them and really good SWF team would very likely destroy me due to gen speeds but victor is a very strong power that can easily dominate chases and even snowball decently. I'm pretty sure I would lose far more games if I played some other killer then twins.

  • KnotEnthusiast
    KnotEnthusiast Member Posts: 464

    While I agree that this killer launch is an absolute buggy clusterfuck, Hag's release was worse in terms of strength. Her traps stunned you when you teleported to them, so they were essentially worthless. You were a 110 killer with no power.

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903

    I'm not so sure yet. Especially once the bugs get worked out I think they'll actually be stronger than people give them credit for, and especially against solo players. Victor being able to down injured survivors is a pretty big check on the "don't heal" meta. I've only played one match against the Twins so far, but that little gremlin felt like a walking Huntress hatchet. The status affects he applies to me freeze my computer for a half second, so I got a nice clear look at him flying right past me and then appearing on my head a fraction of a second later. Maybe hit validation will help, but still.

  • QwQw
    QwQw Member Posts: 4,531

    The only killer worse than the twins was ptb ghostface imo.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Clearly theres a skill gap between you and everyone accusing them of being weak. I’ve played against some amazing Twins and I’d love to play against yours sometime 💜

  • MythMage
    MythMage Member Posts: 521

    They are easily genrushed, more genrushable than any other killer bar Trapper/Hag. Their only real strength is camping and slugging, which we all know survivors love. The addons are s**t, the power is too punishing for a mediocre reward, too much counterplay (why can every Killer's power be countered by crouching? Hag, Phead, and now Twins all have a huge part of their power nullified by just holding CTRL), gives the survivors too much info, not fluid at all...

    God, this killer is actually quite garbage. They fun in a casual setting tho.

  • UMCorian
    UMCorian Member Posts: 531
    edited December 2020

    Weak needs a bit of an astrisk. Streamers are putting on a clinic regarding this killers raw power... at camping. You think scoring a basement hook as Trapper can snowball, wait until you have Victor camping on the floor above, letting Charlotte know the second any survivor comes within, what, 16 meters of the basement entrance.

    Switching to Victor is quick, and you can easily score it a hit before the survivor even gets into the basement... and by the time they unhook, Charlotte basically forces the trade automatically.

    It's a garbage way to play, but it is about the only thing this killer can do with half her tool-kit still under development.

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  • Jed
    Jed Member Posts: 254

    Well I never wanted him anyways but I hope this means Chucky is off the table for new iconic killers after seeing how this small killer was handled.

  • jisp3r
    jisp3r Member Posts: 317

    Besides the bugs, they are okay.. You can block pallets, corridors and windows with Charlotte.

    Mindgame survivors so they run into one or the other et cetera...

    Just give it time to learn. She requires way more thinking than Blight for example.

  • jisp3r
    jisp3r Member Posts: 317
    edited December 2020

    Also Victor is a moving whispers... Not just an attacker

  • Lazerboy88
    Lazerboy88 Member Posts: 517

    I really think anyone placing twins as the worst really must not have played more then a game, I been playing her since she came out and consistently getting 3 and 4ks, I am red rank i go against red ranks, I have been able to do much better with her then killers such as clown or trapper. She is not weak; she is a huge buggy mess yes and once she gets polished and done (something that should of been done during ptb) she seems like she will be in a good spot.

  • RamblinRango
    RamblinRango Member Posts: 389

    I think she'll be fixed and buffed a little soon, she's good but Victor could be better

  • AChaoticKiller
    AChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104

    i've only been winning with them for two reasons

    • survivors don't know how to play against them
    • I'm really good in general at playing killer

    some games it doesn't even feel like victor helped out all that much and in games where survivors do know what they are doing im only getting by because im out playing them. still lose very often against good survivors tho because this killer is basically a m1 killer without a power if a survivor holds onto victor.

  • I think once they fix twins game breaking bugs, they'll be somewhat half decent.

    They are not as good as Hag or anyone of course, but they are better than like....Clown.

  • AChaoticKiller
    AChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104

    same but i can tell that games i win are either from ignorance/lack of experience on the survivors part or if it's just me being a good killer.

    Not one game have i felt like victor is strong when facing good survivors even if im landing most of my pounces.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    A new killer that can be in two places at once, best camp machine since the Hag, and released with map updates with nothing but deadzones and it is the weakest killer. I can't help but smh.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,870

    You realize that this killer has been improved a lot from PTB? In PTB, Lockers hard countered victor. Currently, Victor now attack people in lockers but apparently this is a bug but this change makes Twins much stronger. Victor pounce is a lot better as it is no longer possible to loop around a generator as it was in PTB due to victor that movement speed pounce change. I know slugging and camping isn't exactly a thrilling strategy to go against but realistically, this killer when downing a survivor from a far takes like 5 to transition and like 20 second to walk to the survivor and like 10-15 second to bring them to a hook. The process is so insanely slow that hooking and chasing just takes too long and unfortunately, killers are going take shortcuts and sometimes, these shortcuts are not exactly fun on the survivor side. This is perfect example of why kill rates are not meaningful as one would believe as they only show the end result. With this type of gameplay, you'll be getting 1 hooked or survivors getting 2 hooked slugged. Stat-wise it might look fine but player confidence wise to win with killer might not be fine and I'm unsure how much survivor fun is having with this.

    This is one killer where I can actually understand survivor using the term "BORING" to play against.