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pig rework

okay so, I'm really new here and I have n o clue on what feedback to this is gonna be like, but oh well, I feel that the pig needs a serious rework, given aside from wraith (who makes sense to be noisey, he holds a bell), she is the only noisy stealth killer, which makes her main ability (ambushing) really hard to rely on; survivors can hear it from a good distance away (which for it to be not heard you'd have to be too far, and you wouldn't land a hit). Her ambush is generally better than her traps, which is my next point; they do nothing unless you time it correctly, and around the best time to put it on, the survivors will have learned your playstyle and counter it. I feel like they do really nothing, not even slow the game down. a rework I think would help newer killers learn to play her, and feel more comfortable doing so, since matchmaking is wonky as if now, too. if she wasn't as weak as I've been hearing, and seeing she is, it could make things a lot easier for baby pigs.

This is all in my opinion, so you don't have to agree by any means!! I just felt like sharing my thoughts on pig!!

Comments

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    I think her traps are cool but overall not really a threat and are pretty easy to counter

  • RamblinRango
    RamblinRango Member Posts: 389

    What do you suggest? Her powers and gameplay fit her perfectly, and as a Saw fan I love it. I don't think it needs reworked, maybe improved a little.

    Could you imagine if she had a special hook ability like Demo though? Something like the rack device from the movies

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited December 2020

    Her traps aren't meant to be a threat; they're just intended as built-in map pressure. It's about making survivors waste time getting them off.


    As for the OP, not really sure how they could change her power to work better as a stealth killer; I would say that she should maybe be a bit faster while crouching, however I don't know what they should do about her ambush. I don't think making it silent would be a good move.

  • jdr27
    jdr27 Member Posts: 18

    Yup i feel like pig actually does need a serious rework, starting because in a sort of way her traps arent even that good, sometimes even survivors manage to get rid of it at first try, so it will be a good start by making traps a bit more difficult for survivors to get rid of it, and yea you may say the main point of it is to apply pressure but does it actually? the answer is no, it only triggers when a gen is done, in my case i mostly play with friends and the tactic is not to finish a gen until someone removes mask so timer doesnt start so it is actually very weak. In terms of the ambush attack i think it kinda is balanced the thing loud sound it produces, so maybe switching the sound for something else could work.

    So it would work if they rework the mask since they are actually useless, really good survivors take the mask within max 1 minute so it doesnt really work, the ambush attack i think its kinda of balanced i would actually leave it like that.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,275

    Yes, please play like that against me. Please dont do Gens while anyone has a Trap on their Head, highly appreciated from my side. :>

  • jdr27
    jdr27 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2020

    bud, i didnt mention not to sit on gens, just 99% then finish it when trap get off bud, and still either gen or no gen, traps are complety trash and very easy to remove. so it clearly needs a kind of rework, like start timer as soon your unhooked or sumthin

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,781

    Yeah she is definitely in need of a rework.

    Her ambush was supposed to be used to maybe sneak up on survivors on a gen, but it is actually much more useful when using it in a chase. her traps are useful, but they are just way too RNG dependent. Most of her addons are also very bad in general, like seriously her best addons are the combat straps and shattered syringe both of which are brown tier addons. At least you can spam them though.

    If you are a new piggy main or just want to learn the pig, I highly suggest watching this guide linked below. The guide is very good and will explain everything you should know about the pig.

    (Don't worry about the video being an hour long, there are plenty of timestamps to get you where you want to be)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UOlX6azR3A&ab_channel=Scorpionz

  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,464

    Rework idk but a few tweaks perhaps and they should look at her addons and make a few changes.

  • JustHeretoHaveFun
    JustHeretoHaveFun Member Posts: 86

    I think some tweaks are in order. I think the traps aren't nearly scary enough. Right now having a trap on your head is more of a mild inconvenience. They could shorten the timer, or add more penaltys. For example, (I'm not a dev, I know some of these are likely very unbalanced, just some ideas,)

    Add a secondary activator for the traps: maybe the timer also starts if the survivor touches any gen.

    Traps could inflict Broken on survivors. This makes them way more eager to take them off, and way more likely to be at Jigsaw boxes. Easier patrolling and more pressure for Piggy.

    Change the amount of bear traps: it's kinda weird that she has a maximum of 4 without add-ons while other people relying on equipment, such as Trapper and Wraith, have refill options. Make the maximum 3 at a time, with add-ons to make it larger. But after a survivor removes one, the Pig can interact with the Jigsaw box to gain one trap.

    When a survivor has a bear trap, people near the trapped survivor are revealed with the Killer Instinct effect. (This would make Sandbagging really easy though.)

    Change the walking speed of her crouch: it's next to impossible to hit people with the Ambush since they immediately know you're there, but I like the oinking. Increasing her speed could balance this by making her constantly able to stealth, but her attack is still obvious. Sort of like wraith.