Do the new killer promote toxic behavior?

The way the twins are built absolutely encourages slugging and, to a lesser degree, camping. If you're playing to win, then you are most likely injuring everyone with Charlotte and some Victor, then slugging as many as possible with Victor. Against good Survivors who are also trying to win, it's pretty much required, otherwise gens will quickly and easily outpace your damage.

My statement was that yes, the twins power setup actively promotes slugging, because at the level of both sides being good mechanical players and both sides are actively trying to WIN the match, the Twins optimal strategy is injuring all or most Survivors, the using Victor to down all the injured players. I'd argue that the Twins, in fact, cannot even win without doing so (again, looking at it from both sides being high skilled, trying to win, and playing optimally - because that's wheee balancing in pvp games has to actually start from).

Obviously, twins vs Survivors who are less skilled than they are leave them more room to play with other strategies. Even then, it's still most efficient to do it the slugging way.

I don't think the twins REQUIRE the alternating control camping, but they absolutely are well suited for it.

Same goes for exit gate camping.

Not necessary to win, but the design makes it effective to do on her.

So yes, unlike a few, much stronger killers, the twins design definitely encourages methods that are less than fun for Survivors to play against.

That being said, heavy slugging is often very effective on any killer, and when a high tier nurse player decides to play the slug game, say when the Survivors all grouped up to heal someone, it's scary how fast a match can go from up in the air to "all over but the crying".

Yeah, it is pretty terrifying.

Honestly, despite the general belief of many forum Survivors, there's a large number of killers who don't camp or only camp when the situation calls for it (like you hook a guy and there's 2 Survivors just standing around waiting like they don't have anything better to do).

There's also a subset I'd call desperation camping, when the game has gone totally off the rails for the killer and they decide they'd rather at least have one skull on the score screen than zero.

Yeah, and you're not alone. Just always remember if you wind up giving a camper multiple kills doing that, you're encouraging them.

It's also why I can't take kill rate stays seriously. I see a whole lot of people throw away the whole team just to try and save one guy.

I guess I'm just a bit more mercenary in how I play, I save folks when I can, but if you get nailed right at the end and the killer is clearly securing it... I'm out, man, I'll see you at the campfire.

Oh man I have never seen a killer camp or tunnel as much. I thought bubba was bad. Every single time I've gone against the twins, everyone was tunneled and camped. Every. Single. Time. It's not fun, and I don't see how that's even fun for the killer either

Camping is a strategy (the devs themselves said it) and definitely not toxic. If the killer wants to camp and tunnel, they are allowed to do so, since it is not against a rules. But most of the time they risk losing all the gens and finishing the trial with just one kill if survivors are smart.

Just as survivors are allowed to genrush, so too killers to hookrush. Neither is toxic, period.

Camping and slugging is their biggest strength. Neither are particularly fun for either side. I find camping and slugging extremely boring as killer, and just frustrating and boring as survivor.

It does actually, part of the twins power requires splitting and having the ability to be able to guard a specific area or in other words, camping. I think it's fair as it is basically what you are supposed to do as The Twins and crushing victor forces the player to become Charlotte once again. There also is a sort of stunned period during the switching transaction.

Also

Victor can hit through lockers because devs too lazy to add the Victor blocking lockers mechanic that they already addressed.

All in all, this killer isn't even done, so try your best against them, or even better, try playing as the twins.

I lost about 25 games in a row before I got good.

Now I'm a beast.

It promotes camping and slugging, for sure. But I do not see it as toxic I see it as boring. The new killer promotes boring gameplay. Toxic gameplay is teaming, sandbagging and using exploits to win among other things not considered normal gameplay.

Yup, it really is. The other thing I do accidentally all the time is that when I down someone with Victor, I'll go and throw that person on the closest hook, but I'm distracted/busy with Charlotte and don't want to swap to Victor at that moment, so he's accidentally hook camping because I'm trying to kick generators with Pop.

I hate the twins. It does promote toxic behavior. Victor should have a longer cooldown, it's dumb how you kick him then hes back at it again in mere seconds.

Also even when downing an injured survivor, victor should be sent away on cooldown to prevent massive slugging. This is dumb I am hating this game right now.