"stop trying to kobe in my face; it's toxic" Forum posts
What is wrong with trying to kobe? Many people do it just for fun because it is you know... funny to yeet yourself off the hook right as someone gets there. In fact, I have witnessed it and performed this many times and so far everyone was chill and goofy about it. "lmao that kobe was perfectly timed noice"
The fact that some people are so spiteful of this that they are willing to let the person on hook go into second stage or die is just plain stupid. You are harming the team more than they were and for what? To let them know that fun is illegal in DBD?
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Why do people call it this? ######### is the origin of the term "Kobe" as it pertains to jumping off of a hook in Dead by Daylight? Is this related to Kobe Bryant? Is basketball somehow related to Dead by Daylight? Is this just some stupid millennial zoomer thing?
(Also, yeah, people complain about too many things being toxic.)
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There's nothing wrong with it. It's been something people try and do for fun since the game came out. The people who actually get mad at it probably aren't the best players.
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Yeah i let them die for that. Why not?
But on a serious note, you can decide to kobe and the other survivor can decide to not unhook you. Its funny when people see it and regret trying to kobe.
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I have no idea why it is called kobeing lol, probably something to do with Kobe Bryant (rip)
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But why? Why are people so upset over something that didn't happen? By letting them die on hook because they only attempted to kobe, you are doing everyone way more harm that they apparently did to you by simply trying to kobe.
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You think it’s funny to try and kobe in their face and they think it’s funny to leave you to struggle. Seems like both parties are happy to troll each other.
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If it succeeds, it denies the unhooker points, emblems, challenges, perks like deliverance, we'll make it and borrowed, and it wasted their time to come get you. Also, it's generally scene as toxic by most since it's usually done as a means to go "haha" to whoever tried to unhook you. You ever see streamers do it? It's to mess with their friends. When I do it with friends and succeed the first words out of my mouth is "get #########". Simply put, it's annoying with randoms since there is no reason to do it other then to deny the unhooker stuff and go haha about it.
Should the person leave you on hook if you try it? No, of course they shouldn't. I see it in a similar realm as t-bagging except if you succeed you can sometimes dick over a teammate depending on what they're running. It's pretty insignificant the majority of the time though.
On the extreme end of it, if you attempt to kobe and put yourself in 2nd state when someone is about to get you, you deserve to be left on the hook.
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I don't personally mind much but I can see why it bothers people who want to win. If someone gets off a gen to come get you off the hook and you attempt and get yourself off the hook, it robs them of points and essentially wastes their time which is why I personally don't attempt in a teammates face but if someone does it when I'm the rescuer, I don't care.
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You can only use Deliverance on your first hook. If I have already saved one person and have it activated then you’re damned right I’m going to use it otherwise it’s a wasted perk. I don’t care if somebody rushed over to save me. They should have been working on a gen for as long as possible for making that attempt.
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When I get off a gen and run to the other side of the map to unhook someone just to see him unhooking himself in my face and waste so much of my time I just heal them to 99% so I get as much heal points as possible and then let them injured.
And next time he's hooked you can bet I'll stick to that gen like glue.
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More harm is relative. The goal of players is not the same. Escaping. Pip. Bp. Fun. Or nothing of these.
Most want you to teach you a lesson, so you stop doing it. One match lost, but no kobe try in all future games.
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You try to spite your teammate by denying them their reward for helping so they spite you back by not helping you.
Grants you started an eye for an eye among your own team.
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Pretty much this. Why do you expect to be unhooked, some people find it funny to run to the hook but not unhooking.
people who Kobe into others faces shouldn’t have a problem with that attitude??
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Dont try and Kobe when someone is there about to get you down, that just wastes everyone's time because you get animation locked. And if you do Kobe in front of me, bye bye. I have no stake in your survival because you clearly didn't want me to heal you with We'll Make It.
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You're being passive aggressive towards keygun right now
Let's be honest, it is bad thing to do in every sense. If you do Kobe, you deprive the player (who already ran all the way there to save you) Bloodpoints and WGLF stacks, and you also deprive yourself of Borrowed Time, or We'll Make It. It's a very selfish thing to do.
Your fun isn't illegal so don't be overly dramatic nobody is saying that. But if your fun comes at somebody's expense, maybe you should reconsider what you're doing. Logically, you know you should just let them rescue you rather than yeet in their face. Your joy is their annoyance: So don't be rude.
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The thing is, you do it to get a reaction from the one who was going to rescue you, most likely a rage reaction which IS toxic if you do it for that purpose.
Then again, nothing is toxic as long as you dont want to be toxic.
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Yes, it's based on Kobe Bryant. Basically it's making a clutch shot. It's also popular for those of a certain generation to yell KOBEEEE! when they take a shot
OT: I've said it a few times now because for some reason this forum likes to find one topic and then beat that dead horse so badly that it is nothing but a bloody puddle of goo on the ground but to be OT, you try to Kobe in front of me, there's a decent chance I'm going to just let you go to 2nd hook for it. I ran all this way to save your dumbass and you're trying to take away the points I should get for coming all this way (especially as I routinely like to run WGLF) so you get yourself off the hook yourself if you're so independent
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Just leave them on the hook if they try. They'll learn that shafting their teammates for their own "haha" moment will only end with them dying and de-pipping.
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Run deliverance if you want that achievement so bad. It's even funnier to let you die on hook than you kobe-ing at my face when I bothered to go and get you.
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Yeah going into second hook trying to kobe though is pretty douchey, but most people aren't doing that. They attempt kobe when they know someone will get there in time for them not to go into second stage. Besides, it is not like survivors have a hard time ranking up at all. Unless they just downloaded the game, survivors who shouldn't be at high ranks (not yammering about them or telling them they are trash at the game and how they don't deserve to be at the red ranks btw) will be at high ranks because of how dumb the mmr system is right now.
As for the perks yeah that might be the only other problem to this as well as wasting the saviors' time to come over for the save. But keep in mind that this is solo queue, NOTHING gets done most of the time anyways so it is not like you are going to throw the game because you can also assume that the killer is not good. Even if the killer was good though, it is still solo queue and you would probably have died regardless.
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You made a post about my post.
So I'm gonna post about your post about my post.
To Kobe in a person's face is blatantly being toxic to YOUR OWN TEAM.
Don't be surprised when they get toxic and leave you on hook.
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If I waste my time that I could have spent doing a gen to get you and you kobe in my face, I'm not going to waste my time helping you again.
Sorry.
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I love you for this. You should've @ me. I had to find this post on my own.
Very passive aggressive, just because he don't want to admit it's toxic.
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.... you're either trolling or a huge snowflake. If that of all things is "toxic" to you then get a grip.
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So glad you actually read the thread and adding nothing.
Yet I'M the one needs a grip. K
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Nice strawman argument, you're just wasting your time :/
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Funny how people throw out strawman as if they actually had a point to make.
Read. The. Thread.
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You deny them unhook points, they deny you LIFE.
No seriously, it's not that i agree, but now that it's a trend, unhookers will see you try it right as you come up, recognize it as this play of last-moment attempt, and think: "Oh yeah? Well then suffer the consequences!" (If you fail.)
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It isn't toxic. I didn't even know that this was considered toxic until people started to say so on the forums. In fact, your post wasn't the only post I read about this topic, there were others I have read saying the same kind of thing.
What is toxic is how you throw the match just to teach them a lesson so to speak. Sure, they could miss out on their opportunity to get something like BT activated but is it really that big of a deal (also I am pretty sure no one tries this when the killer is close)? Again, you are throwing the game making you more toxic that the person who either attempted to kobe or kobe'd. In other words, you screw over the other two people because someone tried to be silly and kobe. Compared to the person trying to kobe, I am pretty sure the person who leaves that person to die is far more toxic than the person on the hook. You get way more points doing generators and playing survivor in general.
Will it really ruin your game experience if you miss out on one save with WGLF, WMI, or just in general though? Remember that kobe's are rare and most of the time you will still get your save. People don't attempt this (or at least I don't) because it would obviously be better for a save with the chance of being saved with BT activated. It sounds like the person leaving the hooked person for dead (if they don't kobe) is more selfish because they didn't get what they want one time. People only really try this if they can do it and get away with it, meaning the killer isn't around or the team is in a good spot to be silly.
I say "To let them know that fun is illegal in DBD?" as an exaggeration btw you know just a little joke. But is the fun completely and utterly ruined for the person who wanted to get a save? It shouldn't, but that is what is apparently.
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It's MORE toxic to leave them stranded.
Yes, but if this "Kobe in yo face" never happened...
It is immature to argue over, "well you started it!" It's also immature to "be silly"
So, I didn't ruin the game by retaliating, you ruined it by "being silly"
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who complained about it?
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I’ll only attempt to unhook myself if I know the person coming to save me won’t make it on time before I go into second stage.
Otherwise yeah, agreed. It’s funny to see.
But, I can also see why others think it’s a bad idea.
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You also have to think, some of these people are about to go into stage 2 anyways, regardless if their friend is about to get them. Might as well try to kobe and maybe get a second hook out of it, instead of sit there mashing F for a couple seconds because your buddy took the longest route to get to you.
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Why's everyone so heated about this? It's just a game, it doesn't impact you in real life.
If someone manages to kobe in front of me I don't rage on the forums. I think "get over here and let me heal you ya goober."
It's not toxic, but it is stupid on the hooked persons side to risk going into the struggle phase.
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Hahahaha GOOBER! I love it, but same. Or if it's perfectly timed and they jump into my heal. Sharing a moment, you hook dived into my arms ♥️❤️
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This pretty much sums up my thoughts, lol
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Honestly if someone kobes in my face I just laugh about it because it happens very rarely, then I proceed to heal the guy and then we run towards a generator. I didn't know it was considered a toxic behaviour until I saw these 2 posts today, and I have 1700 hours in the game.
It seems like I'm a pretty chill guy cuz I've never even remotely thought it could be considered "toxic", lol.
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It's because they had to hold shift and W towards the guy on hook, so they think they're entitled to the unhook points and the wglf stack, and get pissy if they don't get it because the person wiggled of hook by themselves.
Was it a dumb move by the hooked survivor that could've heavily affected their survival? Yes. But is it worth crying on the forums over and condemning people who want to play with a little risk? Absolutely not, it's so childish.
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I don't care if someone tries to kobe as long as it'd be a safe unhook. If they succeed it gives them points and there is an achievement. I do find it funny when they obviously weren't paying attention to their timer when they do it and end up going into struggle as I'm running up.
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As others have said, I think it's kind of selfish, but the point that doesn't get mentioned enough is it's cowardly. If you want to "take a chance to escape" do it without a spotter.
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When you die on first hook cause you didn't get your deliverance trigger or another teammates goes down cause you couldn't heal them in time while you could have had we'll make it then you'll start to see it's not as innocent as just denying a couple of bloodpoints. Quit a few perks work on those unhooks
You can do what you want ofcourse. If you find it funny go for it. But then don't complain that others find it funny to leave you hanging
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You got the same answers as in the thread you mean. When the rescuer is next to you and the killer is gone, all right, kobe is fine. BUT! Please, respect people who run across the map to unhook you and the time they took for you. Please. Think about the consequences.
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Some good knowledge on why it’s called the “Kobe” via a older post from the always helpful Fibijean
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Its not millenial at all. People have been yelling KOBE for decades when they throw something, calling your shot, yes due to the Mamba, usually when the shot has little chance to go in.
Kobe-ing has your character reach over their head and attempt to throw themselves off the hook. KOBE. If anything, its the opposite of millenial, people been talking that since the 90s.
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Kobe is what people used to say before yeet was a thing. Usually for throwing something like a grenade in FPS games but here you're yeeting yourself off the hook.
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Anything people dont like is toxic.
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I can tell lol
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One thing is obvious now: You're aware now that you are upsetting others for no logical gain when you attempt/successfully yeet in front of the would-be rescuer's face. You can no longer use personal incredulity or ignorance as an excuse to continue doing this guilt-free. If somebody is coming to save you, don't yeet in their face. It hurts them and you. Just accept that, it'll make the game a nicer place.
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I usually don't talk like this, so sorry for being more flustered than usual. I was tired yesterday and I feel like I sort of jumped the gun on this whole kobe thing. Didn't really think things through.
But yes, I can see why people are upset by kobeing in the face of others. I have done this many times and had it happen to me many times as well. I may personally don't care about this, but others feel differently. I was confused yesterday because I was reading one too many posts about how toxic kobeing is because they were becoming a bit more popular of a topic so I immediately made a post asking why people are getting upset over it. I will be more conservative when it comes to the kobe mechanic and more thoughtful of others when I attempt to do it.
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Different people on the forums. Over the course of a few days I saw some posts about the same topic.
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