Solo que survivors aren't as helpless as everyone makes them out to be.

A lot of people I've seen on here talk about solo que survivors as if they are helpless at all times. But that isn't true, a good solo survivor can carry a team under the right conditions.

Plus, solo survivors will always seem weak in comparison to SWF. Who can sometimes be scary to go against, but most of the time are just two people screwin' around.

What is the issue however, is matchmaking ( who would have guessed? ) that allows everyone to be corralled into one rank with enough playtime. If BHVR improved it ( as MMR was supposed to do ) then I'm sure everyone's teammates would be the appropriate skill level. Which would hopefully keep the potatoes in the low ranks.

But, as we have experienced, BHVR is not the best at implementing changes like this. So enjoy your boosted teammates everyone.

Comments

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275

    Good solo survivors can definitely help carry a team.

    I dunno what the deal with MMR is gonna be in the future, but that number next to your name definitely needs to correlate to something. The whole logic of the rank system needs a rethink.

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,800
    edited December 2020

    Yeah, people always exaggerate that solo queue is hell. I will admit that it kind of is, but it is not as bad as you think. I have mainly played solo queue since my beginnings as both killer and survivor and I must say that solo queue is bad, but not always hopeless. I had a really intense, fun, and coordinated team (because of kindred) against a deathslinger camping shack basement during endgame collapse next to an open gate (only to get at least one kill, he wasn't a trash player). I was injured so I signaled a teammate over to me by pointing my flashlight in the sky, she then healed me and we inched very close to the shack. I immediately used SB to run down making the deathslinger miss an m1 and saved the girl on hook with BT. I then ran out of basement along with everyone else taking perfect hits. I asked them if they were all solo and they were. That was one amazing game I had in solo queue in recent times.

    But yes, the mmr system needs to be fixed.

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,225

    The problem with solo survivor is, that a not-so-small number of them are allergic to gens. So either you do gens alone, or you are in a chase and no gens get done. Happens to me time and again in solo queue. The last game that happend i finished the first gen alone, was then chased around while 2 gens popped, and then finally caught and hooked. I got unhooked, healed myself because the "rescuer" run away, and did the last two gens start to finish, while all 4 ppl were alive. Then, i got downed again (because i was the only one on a gen, and the killer just came as i finished the last one) and the rest got out, not even trying to rescue me from a no-noed - non camping killer.

    You are not helpless, i agree, but you depend a lot on your teammates.

  • IronWill
    IronWill Member Posts: 244

    Solo and duo is basically the WORST experience ingame. I am at that point where I actually think about searching 2-3 other people to form a SWF cause the game is just plain unfun any other way.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 10,224

    There's only so much a good survivor can do if the other 3 survivors are not working on gens and go down quickly when the killer finds them.

    There simply isn't enough time for 1 survivor to hard carry a team if the other 3 are actively working against you.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814
    edited December 2020

    Right now, I consider a solo lobby a free 4k. That really should tell you everything you need to know about solo que.

  • chieften333
    chieften333 Member Posts: 1,554

    Like i said, poor teammates usually comes down to the extremely bad ranking and matchmaking system.

    I'm pretty sure red ranks has the largest variation in skill across all the ranks. You can either be paired with the best teammates you've ever had. Or people who play like rank 20's.

  • chieften333
    chieften333 Member Posts: 1,554

    It's not that solo que is bad, it's just that you're good compared to them, red ranks is a hodgepodge of a lot of different skill levels. You happen to be on the upper end of that scale.

    Plus I think you missed the part where I say the terrible ranking and matchmaking are a huge part of why solo que sucks.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    I didn't. That's why I qualified my comment with "Right now."

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    "Under the right circumstances" is a big ask. I ran a really bad Myers for FIVE GENS, no joke, and not a single teammate even tried to save me. I died on my first and his only hook after the 5th gen popped. So I carried but got screwed by bad, unskilled teammates. Happens all the time and it sucks.

    It's often painful playing this game as a solo survivor. The worst and most selfish teammates I have by far are the red and purple ranks.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Thank you.

    I’d say my weak point is the chase (as survivor).

    But despite never running meta perks (current build is Bond, Visionary, Wake Up, Windows of Opportunity), I usually get a lot of repairs done on my own, clear a few totems or Hexes, help quite a lot of injured survivors, a hook save here and there, be a distraction whenever I think it’ll help someone else, and generally pull my weight.

    Even if the killer wins, I’m usually (but not always) the very last survivor alive, and it’s usually my first hook.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    I’d also like to add that sometimes solos can just magically work in beautiful, amazing synergy.

    I’ve been in games where another player or two are intuitive enough to read the match and what I’m doing/about to do, and likewise me them. We just worked so well cooperatively as though we were SWF, but nope, complete strangers with no comms.

  • Freddy96
    Freddy96 Member Posts: 767

    Solo survivor is like playing perkless clown on haddonfield. Can you win? Yes. Will it happen against opponents that know what they're doing? No

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    Not completely helpless, no. But at the moment it feels like you only really need one bad teammate, who'll farm everyone off hook without BT or refuse to take aggro when everyone else is death hook and they haven't been hooked. Also wrt specific killers, like cleansing every time a speck of vom touches them for the first time.

  • JesseJH28
    JesseJH28 Member Posts: 483

    As someone who plays mostly solo I'd have to agree. Of course there are a few matches here and there where you feel like you have no idea what's going on, but as long as you have some sense of where teammates are or what they're doing, you can easily pull your own weight, or even carry someone else. That disadvantage of having no communication makes it a little more fun in my opinion

  • CountVampyr
    CountVampyr Member Posts: 1,050

    I play solo and honestly it’s the variety that keeps me playing. Will I get a good team or will I get a sack of potatoes? You just never know.