how is this game survivor sided tell me?

I'm so tired of killers acting like they have it worse and survivors have it easy.... BULLSHIT. I've always been a survivor in dead by daylight and 80% killers win. The killer always get more blood points and sometimes when they lose they still get more, but survivors get little some matches. I feel like this game is more set up for killers and for killers to win more. Stop acting like it's soooooo hard to be a killer. Killers have supernatural #########' abilities and killers like "The legion" kills survivors with in 4 minutes because he runs faster than survivors and then we never have time to fix gens... And like that the game is over and survivors don't get no bloodpoints hardly and the killer got more, and so now the game is over. I played killer for the first time to see if it was easy to be killer and..... I won, it was VERY easy, I didn't even have to do much and I found that so sad that it was so easy for me to win without no ad-on's, on the killer I had and I was a noob at being the killer so I was surprised and it makes me super sad and pissed off for killers to sit there and say being a killer is the hardest thing ever in dbd and survivors have it easy.I don't care what nobody says... This game is killer sided and they have more of an advantage then survivors and this game is harder for survivors... I'm glad you brung up this discussion, because in dbd it's definitely not Survivor sided... It's killer sided.

Edit: I just played dbd as a survivor literally a second ago and this picture proves my point

It was a very short match and I have a video of what happened but I don't know how to post that soooo yep. But anyways sometimes I get this many bloodpoints even when player don't disconnect. The killer got lots of bloodpoints in this one short match while I hardly get known some matches.

The game is exceedingly balanced over all, but the SWF and random lobbies are what's causing the sheer divide in individual cases. Even duos are far more potent than just full random parties.

1. The killer was running bbq
2. You aren't even purple ranks yet. The game is super killer sided in grey, yellow, and green ranks because it's so easy for survivors to rank up so they get put in matches with killers that are better. Once you get to around rank 3 or play in an SWF you'll understand where everyone who says killers have it bad are coming from.

I wouldn't say he was bad we just played really really well.

Since rank reset all its been is

Low rank players on my team who do nothing in the game. clearly new to the game.

and purple/green hard camping killers. to throw the cherry on top, most of them were RUIN/UNDYING killers. what more do they want? iknow SWF players get a bad rep and rightly so but killers also bring it on themselves with their playstyles and sweat builds. The stats show killers are getting more kills than survivors are escaping. they really need that BLOODLUST though.........

one word:

matchmaking. (Which is busted anyway)

Regardless, it's not deniable that in higher ranks you are a little more likely to go up against worse players, and vice versa. And that killer was a waaay lower rank than you. This could mean two things:

A. The game's balance is bad

B. You're bad

Take your pick.

(I'd also like to add that one of your teammates DC'd so that basically lost you the match already, plus you had terrible teammates if we're only going by rank. So the outcome wasn't really decided by the killer. It was decided when your teammate left.)

Because this community can't live without their conspiracy theories such as "game is survivor sided™", "I go against a navy seals swf team every other game", "all survivors are bully tbaggers", "we only lost because you camped and tunneled™" and/or "The game is full of year-old bugs and every patch breaks it even more"...wait no, that one's actually true.

thing like that why this game shouldn't be a competitive game yes it pvp but it meant like party game for horror fans like the smash thing people treat it like acompetitive fighting game but more like party game but it don't stop people treating it like a competitive game.

Let me break down some math for you, i have posted this before so i'll just copy what i have because the point still stands:

The problem is that the game actually is survivor sided when you look at tournaments and top level play. If it wasn't, then nurse wouldn't be the only viable killer. The math itself doesn't add up and shows that under optimal conditions, a killer can't win. Let's look at what a perfectly efficient team does.

Facts:

• Gens take 80 seconds each.
• Survivors move at 4.0 m/s
• Killers (most) move at 4.6 m/s
• Killers (most) have a 32 meter terror radius.
• Killer lunge range is 6 meters (generally you wait until 4-5 meters for dead hard, and to not get spun etc.)
• A survivor moves at 6.0 m/s for 2 seconds after getting hit.

The scenario:

• Match starts, every survivor splits up onto different gens.
• Killer runs to opposite side of the map (where survivors likely spawn)
• Crossing the maps takes 15-20 seconds depending on the map and killer.
• Assuming you instantly find a survivor in that time (which can be rare) this takes about 15 seconds.
• Lets pretend for a minute, the survivor doesn't use windows, or pallets, or anything, and they just hold w, as soon as they see the killer.
• As soon as the killer terror radius at 32 meters, survivor looks around for the killer. Human reaction time can be around .25 seconds, but let's say you have to look around to find which direction the killer is coming from and it takes 3 seconds (which is very generous). The killer is now 32 - (4.6 x 3), or 18.2 meters away.
• You now know where the killer is coming from, and hold w in the opposite direction.
• Killer needs to get within 4.5 meters of you to lunge (accounting for lag, getting spun etc.). The killer gains .6 meters per second. Getting within 4.5 meters takes 22.8 seconds (i'll even round down for you)
• It is now 15 + 22 = 37 seconds for the first hit (remember no pallets, or windows, or anything, just holding w).
• Killer is able to gain 1 meter while cleaning their weapon for 3 seconds. The survivor uses their speed boost to move 16 meters, which means the killer is 15 meters away.
• It takes the killer another 17.5 seconds to get within 4.5 meters to lunge. Again, i'll even round down for you.
• This is now a down in 15 + 22 + 17 = 54 seconds.
• It takes 3 seconds to walk up and pick up the survivor, and another 10-15 seconds to walk to a hook, and it takes 1.5 seconds to hook the survivor. This time is 3 + 10 + 1.5 = 14.5 seconds (again i'll even round down and say 14 seconds)
• The first hook now took 15 + 22 + 17+ 14 = 68 seconds.
• Gen times are 80 seconds.
• During this time the other 3 survivors work on a generator, you now lose 3 generators
• Rinse and repeat, but now you have 1 survivor on a gen, 1 survivor on hook, 1 in a chase and another rescuing and healing, so it is a bit slower, but you still lost 3 gens in that early game.

Keep in mind. This ignores pallets. It ignores perks. It ignores windows. It ignores looping. This is literally just holding w for as long as possible. If a team plays efficiently, and hits the gens hard like they should, a killer can never win. The only exception to this, is killers who can shorten that chase window, like nurse, spirit, huntress (arguable), deathslinger, etc. Because you can't hold w against them. Now when you factor in pallets, windows, looping, etc. This basically means nurse and spirit are really the only viable killers at top level play, because all it takes as a killer is for you to guess wrong ONCE in a chase, and you just lost 10-15 seconds either catching up to that survivor again, or abandoning the chase to find another one.

Now, you might say "well you should get the first hit, then go find another survivor on a gen". And you are right, this is generally optimal. But now imagine that scenario i mentioned, where you do that. It took you 15 + 22 seconds, to find the first survivor and hit them once. It takes a survivor 16 seconds to heal. Now all they do is heal, and start hitting a gen and the scenario repeats itself. Now you can maybe do this only once or twice depending on your medkit. But by the time your team runs out, you easily could complete multiple generators.

This is the problem with the game. When survivors play perfectly, a killer can't win. A killer has to win by survivors making mistakes. There isn't a way for a killer to truly win a game against an efficient team if they play perfectly.

Your scenario is only based on your theory. The reality is that in no way are the other 3 survivors working on a gen during that time. I'm a survivor main and I'll tell you that this never happened. There will most likely be 2 survivors working on a gen at the start.

Also, your killer data is inaccurate. See, there's this thing called Bloodlust and it makes the killer faster to catch its prey. It does not take a killer 17 seconds to cross from one side of the map to the other and your lunge time seems to be based on a normal killer attack, which killers rarely use and why should they when their lunge is very effective against the poor hitboxes of the survivors?

Bottom line is, while some killers are much stronger than others, they all can end a match in 4 minutes or less. Yes, survivors can end a match quickly, but in all the games that I've played, the ratio for fast killer victories to survivors is at least 3 to 1, so I disagree with your data.

Right, i'm removing as many variables as possible, so we aren't counting looping, pallets, windows, perks, or killer powers. But i'm saying that when you factor those back in, the problem is just as bad, which is why only a handful of killers are viable at top level play.

The other thing you bring up about saying that the other 3 survivors aren't working on gens. This is a low level, solo queue problem. I'm talking about the ideal scenario, when both the survivor and killer play perfectly, that it is impossible for killer to win.

People tend to play the power role. So the easiest way to see if the game is killer or survivor sided is simply looking at which side has longer queues during prime time.

This game is not survivor sided, not on your average game, not even in those random 4man swfs everyone complains about. It might be survivor sided when you get that 1 every 100 game 4man of 5k+ hrs survivors that know every aspect of the game, and still if the killer is experienced, the game can turn out quite balanced (even if try hard).

This forum is just an echo chamber of bad killers and viewers of *certain* streamers. But killer has never been this easy. I would like to see all these people playing dbd as it was a couple of years ago.

I think there should be a Hide n' Seek mode where you have 10, 15, or maybe 20 minutes with generators not present on the maps and you just run around trying to kill everybody before the time runs out and the killer is grabbed by HP Lovecraft if anybody is left standing and the survivors left get a brief reprieve and thrown into another arena. That would be a more fun game than the one we got right now. Probably for both sides.

Hopefully next year's Evil Dead game totally shits on this one and forces them to step up their game pun intended. But I've eaten words like those with two other games now so dbd seems to have some sort of divine protection or I happen to curse any games I think will pull people away from this one.

These devs have no clue just how lucky they are lol. They managed to maintain a small but steady playerbase with no competition around for years in the genre, and would be competitors were ruined by copywrong bs and straight up abandonment in one case. I wouldn't squander that good fortune if I were these devs since it's not gonna last them forever. A much, much better game with an attractive IP WILL come sooner or later. I'm gonna straight up say that covid probably saved this game from some horrible decisions and patches later in the year by giving some nice bumps to player count earlier in the year. It would be about the only business that isn't some monopoly that stay at home bs saved.

Well I'm not a bad player and second of all when my teammate disconnected, I already knew we were about to lose so I pick neither I think the killer was a just a good player and I honestly feel like that gameplay still wasn't fair in my opinion (even if my teammate didn't disconnect). I've been playing this game for almost a year now and I feel like the matches I play sometimes is ridiculous because of the killer. To me ranks will never matter because if you're a great player then you're a great player, if you're bad at the game then you're a bad player.... I feel like a rank should not determine your skills at the game. I honestly know nothing about ranks in dbd cause I've never cared for them, but anyways that's just what I feel and that's my opinion.

Most Killers in this game are bad at applying pressure, this is correct.