How long should a chase be

At equal skill level with a killer lacking chase ending powers, I would say 10 seconds for every 50/50 won at mid-tier loop spots, 15-20 at strong spots, and insignificant amounts at weak spots.

This one is tricky though because you WANT chase length vs equally skilled players to be variable as you want some guesswork and skill to be in chases, rather than it being a mechanical function of how well you use resources. Chases are at their most boring when 50/50s and jukes don't matter, but you need chases to last SOME length of time between those or else that sick 50/50 doesn't matter because buying you an extra trip around the loop doesn't matter. So chases need a 'lower bound' when played correctly. But they also need an upper-bound, ideally one not as long as BL3. This is accomplished by limited usage of windows, pallets, and how 50/50s don't buy you a chase reset fully most of the time.

Most intensely survivor sided maps are caused by not having a sufficiently low upper bound of chases by having too many resources 'strung' together. Think Lampkin Lane, just too many places to do vertical loops. Conversely, most killer sided maps aren't defined by having no resources strung together, but instead being extremely small and lacking resources at ALL. Think Game, think Hopkins.

This is why the Ormond and Autohaven reworks seem to have focused on injecting deadzones into maps with too many 'chained' resources, which I think is clever. You want to end the current loop with a won 50/50 because you need that extra bit of distance to make it to your next resource, and resource conservation matters, but those maps have plenty of strong resources and resources that 'bridge' strong zones, unlike say... old autohaven which was just one massive chain jungle gym. I think the devs learned that resources are exponentially stronger the closer they are together, because chases baloon in upper end timelimit non-linearly. 2 windows make a chase far more than twice as long as one window, 3 more than twice as long as 2, ect.

You win a chase when you break LoS and lose the killer, period.

But I asume you meant "how much time do I have to run the killer in order to feel like I've beat him". Depends on you, do you care if you pip or not? Do you care if your teammates make It out alive or not? Do you care if you get out alive? I personally feel good if I get a black pip just from 1 chase in those games which you get tunneled from the very start of the to your last breath.

I dont care if my teammates make It out alive or not when Im in a chase because I have no control over what they are doing.bI dont know if they are doing gens, totems, chests or just crouching and messing around so I just focus on my pip, if I get tunneled for enough time to get a black pip that's a win for me, maybe there are no gens left or maybe there are still all 5 of them, I dont really care anymore, that's how you have to think when you play solo, otherwise you'll get crazy.

Nah. Like I said there isn't going to be one magic number because it depends on resources, how close the survivor is to good zones, ect, and ideally again you want there to be high variance even with skilled survivors.

I would say with two top level players at a super optimal level it is realistic to expect each hit to be as short as maybe 7 seconds (The survivor loses a 50/50 right away) on a mid tier loop, or maybe 10-15 on a strong loop (they lose a 50/50 twice in a row). On longer loops, the 'upper end' time limit can balloon out, but because 50/50s are an endless gamble realistically a 'strong' loop should last 20 seconds top maybe on average before you need to win a 50/50 to bail out, at which point obviously, all play being equal there is a 50/50 shot you eat a hit.

But, again, its more of a toy problem. In 'real world' scenarios even among equally skilled players your more expecting to predict the chase based on starting location rather than an 'average.' The 'average' result is actually going to be quite rare, you will expect the killer either to catch the survivor out in a bad spot or force them to expend a resource that makes a location powerful quicky, or the survivor gets lucky on a few 50/50s in a row, or lands a good juke to break chase for a bit, and basically 'resets' the chase time.

Also, a good player should feel forced to eventually drop a chase against a killer they can't actually predict/fool, which would be one at entirely equal skill, because in that scenario your just constantly flipping coins in the chase and the survivor has way more on the line than the killer. So that equal skill toy problem is assuming the chase 'ends' when the killer eventually grinds out the chase and downs the survivor, which in theory happens because BL3, but realistically the survivor should break chase well before that as their 'win' condition for the chase.

Against an inferior killer, chases in theory could last indefinitely. We all have seen the YouTube vids. And, again, IDEALLY vs an inferior survivor, chases should end FAST. But DBD has a structural problem with its mechanics where even moderately optimized play can create a rather long minimum chase time, which is why you see so many boosted animals in rank 1 absolutely losing their mind vs Huntress or Nurse with no idea about any counterplay tactics that work against all killers because they never had to use them to grind out time. Conversely its generally easier for a killer to 'force' a chase win EVENTUALLY, which is why survivors hate bloodlust, even though bloodlust is, in fact, a good mechanic that will punish whichever side is doing the chase 'wrong' based on context. Also, said forcing comes at cost to killers that minimally optimal play doesn't for survivors, so it isn't a linear comparison and its fair to say the wonky skill floors of DBD are way more of an issue than killers eventually winning chases (mainly killer is OP until survivors become minimally compitent, and then it suddenly becomes dramatically harder and, more critically, a more frustrating experience, while survivors don't need to develop new core skills for a very long time, its WILD how many Red rank survivors don't even know how to 50/50 or do fast vaults in tight spaces).

But if you were to put a gun to my head, I would imagine the average chase being a strong zone, linked with an incidental 'linear chase only' weak pallet to a medium zone. So played well it would be like 30-40 seconds. That makes the game in theory mathematically impossible for the killer to win 'on average' but obviously the way DBD works makes sneaky hits or sudden 50/50 victories create a real possibility and chases would trend lower than this when played well by both sides FAR more than they trend higher, its just that infinity is a pretty big number that pushes that average up, with some maps even having pseudo infinites vs non 4.6 MS killers with certain powers in certain zones. So, you know, maybe your chase ends in 10 seconds vs equally skilled survivors because they try to stay close to use a resource and you just out 50/50, maybe it takes the entire game because people know some tech from under the docks in swamp and your a Slinger.

IMO if we want killer to aim for 12hook it should take like 20s big max of 25s to down someone.

It take a total of 400s to do 5gen at 80s. At 20sec for a down it take you 240s and the remaining 160s are used to roam/find survivor.

With that I'd make it so you get increasing amount of BP for every hook to encourage killer to go for a 12hook combine with loosing more BP when they stay near a hooked survivor.

If the game would encourage killer to get 12 hooks and give him BP penalty for focusing on 2 survivor early while not taking them too long to down a survivor while in a chase I think it would make the game more fun for both side.

Currently survivor do not have to manage their time if they are against a mid/low tier killer with good add-on/perk included which is bullshit for the killer who have to manage their time perfectly or have to sweat all game.

More like the first hook give you 50% less BP and even less if you stay near near the hook and the third hook give you 150% or heck 200% BP.

He will eventually depip and lose his ranks.

You can't really say how long it should be. There are too many variables in the game. You can end chases in 20 -30 seconds and still lose all gens due to gen rush. And it goes the same way for the other side killer can, slug tunnel or force struggle. One thing for certain though: strong tiles should not be spawning within close proximity of each other and deadzones need to be looked at cough*suffocation pit*cough

As a general rule, you want to chase for 15 seconds and extending for more 15 seconds each time you get a resource (pallet/hit).