Hallowed Blight Event FIX ASAP - Plant farming after 30/30

Yeah I'm not sure why they did it this way.

Now you can do gens instead of going after plants, and I can get all the nectar

If they allow 30/30 Survivors to continue collecting Cankers, those Survivors would be extremely likely to be greedy or troll - “I’ll get this plant because I want bloodpoints, screw your event progression.”
How BHVR SHOULD have made it work, is that all Survivors share the same vial progression. One or all Survivors can work on the same or separate Cankers, and the leftover ones can work on generators. At the end, all Survivors would have progression to their vials.

I don’t see why BHVR didn’t make it that way. I know they prevent 30/30 Survivors from juicing Cankers to prevent trolls and greedy players but this is also punishing those who don’t.
Take notes BHVR - make all Survivors share the same vial progression, as was the case on all other events.

@Judgement said:
If they allow 30/30 Survivors to continue collecting Cankers, those Survivors would be extremely likely to be greedy or troll - “I’ll get this plant because I want bloodpoints, screw your event progression.”
How BHVR SHOULD have made it work, is that all Survivors share the same vial progression. One or all Survivors can work on the same or separate Cankers, and the leftover ones can work on generators. At the end, all Survivors would have progression to their vials.

I don’t see why BHVR didn’t make it that way. I know they prevent 30/30 Survivors from juicing Cankers to prevent trolls and greedy players but this is also punishing those who don’t.
Take notes BHVR - make all Survivors share the same vial progression, as was the case on all other events.

Dude people were done one side in a few hours. If you can't get 30 vials in 2 weeks I dunno what to say.

Might_Oakk said:

@Judgement said:
If they allow 30/30 Survivors to continue collecting Cankers, those Survivors would be extremely likely to be greedy or troll - “I’ll get this plant because I want bloodpoints, screw your event progression.”
How BHVR SHOULD have made it work, is that all Survivors share the same vial progression. One or all Survivors can work on the same or separate Cankers, and the leftover ones can work on generators. At the end, all Survivors would have progression to their vials.

I don’t see why BHVR didn’t make it that way. I know they prevent 30/30 Survivors from juicing Cankers to prevent trolls and greedy players but this is also punishing those who don’t.
Take notes BHVR - make all Survivors share the same vial progression, as was the case on all other events.

Dude people were done one side in a few hours. If you can't get 30 vials in 2 weeks I dunno what to say.

Oh I don’t know, maybe people who don’t have ‘a few hours’ to play consecutively as hardcore as a legend like you to 100% their vials in exactly 30 matches?
Or maybe people who are busy with other stuff that takes priority over a damn game?
Or maybe people who play other games more than they play Dead By Daylight? Other games that are more enjoyable than Dead By Daylight, I might add?
Or Civilisation V?

Do you have ‘something to say’ about those circumstances, Might?
Oh what am I saying? You already said you don’t.

So in other words your greedy, because you have the ability to do nothing all day but play a computer game?
'Those people' that take longer than a day or two, or buy the game halfway through an event have always had it rougher because people always stopped burning event offerings towards the end.

@Naiad said:
So in other words your greedy, because you have the ability to do nothing all day but play a computer game?
'Those people' that take longer than a day or two, or buy the game halfway through an event have always had it rougher because people always stopped burning event offerings towards the end.

You don't need others to burn offerings in order to harvest the nectar, you can use your own.

@HellDescent said:

@Naiad said:
So in other words your greedy, because you have the ability to do nothing all day but play a computer game?
'Those people' that take longer than a day or two, or buy the game halfway through an event have always had it rougher because people always stopped burning event offerings towards the end.

You don't need others to burn offerings in order to harvest the nectar, you can use your own.

I know that, it's just more of a grind at the end. It's much easier to harvest nectar with 7 plants/hooks on a map than only 2. Especially for killers whose 2 hooks are nowhere near where they downed a survivor. Running iron grasp and/or agitation isn't always an option if those haven't appeared in your killers bloodweb yet.

I really love the graphics of the Event, all this love what's in your work. It's a great job, but please change the plants. Actually it's horrible to search a lobby as killer because most of the ppl want to play as killer because they will earn bloodpoints! please change it!

@Smashen said:

Oh I don’t know, maybe people who don’t have ‘a few hours’ to play consecutively as hardcore as a legend like you to 100% their vials in exactly 30 matches?
Or maybe people who are busy with other stuff that takes priority over a damn game?
Or maybe people who play other games more than they play Dead By Daylight? Other games that are more enjoyable than Dead By Daylight, I might add?
Or Civilisation V?

If its just a damn game, why care about some skins in it ?

Judgement said:

Might_Oakk said:

@Judgement said:
If they allow 30/30 Survivors to continue collecting Cankers, those Survivors would be extremely likely to be greedy or troll - “I’ll get this plant because I want bloodpoints, screw your event progression.”
How BHVR SHOULD have made it work, is that all Survivors share the same vial progression. One or all Survivors can work on the same or separate Cankers, and the leftover ones can work on generators. At the end, all Survivors would have progression to their vials.

I don’t see why BHVR didn’t make it that way. I know they prevent 30/30 Survivors from juicing Cankers to prevent trolls and greedy players but this is also punishing those who don’t.
Take notes BHVR - make all Survivors share the same vial progression, as was the case on all other events.

Dude people were done one side in a few hours. If you can't get 30 vials in 2 weeks I dunno what to say.

Oh I don’t know, maybe people who don’t have ‘a few hours’ to play consecutively as hardcore as a legend like you to 100% their vials in exactly 30 matches?
Or maybe people who are busy with other stuff that takes priority over a damn game?
Or maybe people who play other games more than they play Dead By Daylight? Other games that are more enjoyable than Dead By Daylight, I might add?
Or Civilisation V?

Do you have ‘something to say’ about those circumstances, Might?
Oh what am I saying? You already said you don’t.

If you are one to be casual towards DBD as you're stating then you shouldn't be that worried about it... after all you have other priorities as I do.. i'm not playing at all over the opening weekend because priorities... but this doesn't take away the fact that bhvr puts a time limit on an event to make people wanna play... that's why they do events to make people play... this event is only about the bp though since you can just buy the rewards.. like come on if you fail at getting a free skin just buy it dude

@Vecors said:
totally agree, they could make it like "If you put an offering you can drain one plant empty" and everyone would be happy.

@Smashen said:
If they wanted to try out if the game needs another secondary objective, two days of testing is a bit harsh.

Im 100% sure they are testing secondary objectives with this event.

thats true

@Naiad said:
So in other words your greedy, because you have the ability to do nothing all day but play a computer game?
'Those people' that take longer than a day or two, or buy the game halfway through an event have always had it rougher because people always stopped burning event offerings towards the end.

This isn't being greedy. This is wanting to be able to participate in the event without being artificially blocked. Once you reach 30 vials, you should start each map with an empty vial. Simple as that. This is a huge mistake that should be fixed ASAP!

@Dreamnomad said:

@Naiad said:
So in other words your greedy, because you have the ability to do nothing all day but play a computer game?
'Those people' that take longer than a day or two, or buy the game halfway through an event have always had it rougher because people always stopped burning event offerings towards the end.

This isn't being greedy. This is wanting to be able to participate in the event without being artificially blocked. Once you reach 30 vials, you should start each map with an empty vial. Simple as that. This is a huge mistake that should be fixed ASAP!

Ok maybe greedy was taking it too far. But imagine you only get to play 2 hours a day of DbD. Now your a solo player and you've joined up with three other who have already got their 30 vials. 5 offerings are used meaning there are 7 plants on the map. To get a full vial you need to drain almost 3 plants, and those survivors with 30 already are wanting to drain plants just for their extra BP because they've already finished with the event.

TBH either way it's going to be a grind for those players since they'd either be competing with people who need nectar, who already have nectar but want the bonus bp, or they'd be going in with only a few (or none) offerings and possibly other survivors gen rushing/dying quickly.

It would be nice if DbD could balance it where those who have all their vials had a way of participating without, possibly, making it harder on those who haven't finished. BUT remember also this is the first time DbD has done an event this way. While you may feel you can't participate anymore, with feedback they may change future events. In the meantime use pre-match lobbies to find out if a survivor has an empty serum and play your offering and hope for the best.

@Naiad said:

Ok maybe greedy was taking it too far. But imagine you only get to play 2 hours a day of DbD. Now your a solo player and you've joined up with three other who have already got their 30 vials.

Okay, now imagine that you are the only one who brought an offering. There are only 3 plants total on the whole map and no one else on your teams gives a crap about harvesting. The killer happens to find you and tunnel you. You are going to die and now there is 0% chance of even gaining the bonus bloodpoints. At least if other people bring offering and harvest plants, you should get like 20k bloodpoints even if you get tunneled.

And more plants means a higher chance of finding the plants. If there are only 3 plants and you are the only one looking for them then there is no guarantee that you'll find and be able to harvest the plants. If everyone else in the team already has all their vials then they don't give a crap who does the harvesting. They just want the bloodpoints. They would rather have someone else do the harvesting. You really aren't thinking your position through here.

@Dreamnomad said:

@Naiad said:

Ok maybe greedy was taking it too far. But imagine you only get to play 2 hours a day of DbD. Now your a solo player and you've joined up with three other who have already got their 30 vials.

Okay, now imagine that you are the only one who brought an offering. There are only 3 plants total on the whole map and no one else on your teams gives a crap about harvesting. The killer happens to find you and tunnel you. You are going to die and now there is 0% chance of even gaining the bonus bloodpoints. At least if other people bring offering and harvest plants, you should get like 20k bloodpoints even if you get tunneled.

And more plants means a higher chance of finding the plants. If there are only 3 plants and you are the only one looking for them then there is no guarantee that you'll find and be able to harvest the plants. If everyone else in the team already has all their vials then they don't give a crap who does the harvesting. They just want the bloodpoints. They would rather have someone else do the harvesting. You really aren't thinking your position through here.

@Naiad said:
In the meantime use pre-match lobbies to find out if a survivor has an empty serum and play your offering and hope for the best.

Or you didn't read what I wrote. I said in pre-game lobby ask if anyone still needs nectar. And if the answer is yes use an offering. It will benefit them and you'll have an extra chance at BP. It's what I'll be doing. We're not even talking about this. People are complaining they can't harvest flowers after they have all vials so they'll not use their offerings and it's a waste.

fcc2014 said:

@Tsulan said:
They´ll have to fix this soon. Otherwise people will stop using the offering and it will be harder and harder for others to get their vials. Right now i need 2 matches as killer to get a vial. As survivor i have to be really unlucky to need 2 matches.

I'm sitting at 38 vials. 30 for survivor 8 for killer. I'm going to be extremely upset being the only one burning an offering for the next week just to get the last 132 special hooks i need. If i only have 3 hooks in play and get the 3 each match that is 44 matches. I'm gonna be a miserable SOB and go ham next month with Mori's every friggin match!

I really hope they change that. Otherwise we'll need the rest of the event for those vials. 
I'm already seeing survivors not burning any offerings. 

It astounds me that nobody at Behaviour thought about this. I feel like all of the design time was put into making glowing models and cosmetics and no thought was put into the mechanics at all. That, or the new events team don't understand this game in the slightest.

@Tsulan said:
Smashen said:

I cant play with my friends because we all have 30/30.

I have to play solo and hope someone else still needs those vials.

And Killers can just suck those Hookers 24/7 for two weeks. This is ridiculous unfair..

I cant believe no one is standing behind me on this one.

Or not enough that the devs would care..

You got your 30 killer vials?

this doesn't address the fact that killers can still get bonus points after reaching their 30/30 and survivors have to hope to get them.. its just wrong and unfair.

@Smashen said:
Finally people realize the problem ?!
I looked at the front page of General Discussion and it seems like Killer queues are getting even more ridiculous. And more people spread the note.
People dont see the problem until its right in their faces man..
I saw the problem immediately after I couldnt M1 the plants xD

I made a forum post, asked on Reddit, wrote an ingame Ticket which "JJ" responded via an automated message IMO but still nothing. This Event is gone from "I'm totally hyped to play for 2 weeks" to "######### is this waiting game?!" in less than 2 days.

Yep this increase killer queue time as a whole because theres no incentive to play survivors since u dont get bonus bloodpoints whereas killer does, it's completely unfair