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Just stop.

I just got through playing a match where the killer was Leatherface. I was survivor Jane Romero. The killer hit every survivor rather quickly after one gen was complete. One hit and each survivor was downed. ONE HIT. So for all you pathetic killers that cry and whine about DBD being more survivor friendly.... you all need to stop crying because that allegation isn't true. All it takes is skill, practice and perks. The devs have balanced every ones perks the best they can. And if a killer has a perk that can down a survivor with one hit, well, you all should be joyous. Instead, you killers cry every time survivors escape. Probably, because you aren't good enough. Maybe it's because you were raised to always win or where everyone gets a trophy and simply losing wrecks you emotionally. DBD is the most balanced game of it's kind. "You can't win them all."

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  • Tricks
    Tricks Member Posts: 957

    Every Leatherface since the beginning of time has been a giant sweatlord. This is nothing new.

  • Heartbound
    Heartbound Member Posts: 3,255

    Body is 1 character too short.

  • PeaceNGrease
    PeaceNGrease Member Posts: 673

    Don't listen to these guys, they're being rude. They're not right, most of them only have 3,000 hours in this game! Those toxic one shotting add on using leatherfaces need to GO!.

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    You are new I take it? Leatherface has a chainsaw and a tantrum that lets him insta-down a lot of people at once if they clump together. While I agree with you that whining online here at the forum is an unattractive habit (whether Killer or Survivor), your post is also just one more big whine about what happened to you. Kettle meet pot.

    For the record, I don't think DbD is Killer or Survivor friendly by design. I think it teeters back and forth based on variables that change. In general, Killers have an easier time at the start (potato ranks) but have a harder time as time goes on because as a group Survivors definitely can match or exceed the Killer's ability to pressure them. SWF (a team with Comms) in particular have an advantage in this area.

    To me, and I have no way of knowing for sure, you sound like a Potato. I do not mean that in a negative way. We all started as Potatoes. You just got your first, hard lesson in chainsaws and slugging. We have all been there. It suffices to say that your experience has little bearing on the balance between Killers and Survivors overall. It is dangerous to make assumptions (or whine) based on individual events.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Meanwhile me and other semi-decent survivors manage to loop Bubba for minutes. Stop blaming the game for your lack of skill.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    I think it's funnier that they probably are red ranks 😂😂

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    Yes, this even happens on red ranks and i´m doubting their ability to learn from errors 🤣

  • Chrisko
    Chrisko Member Posts: 288

    Hey wait...The killer can ALSO PIP without having to escape...

  • Bullettimegod
    Bullettimegod Member Posts: 994

    I mean.. i hate to say this but today i got looped for 5 gens as bubba on yamoka map. Nothing i did could catch him. Second time i ever got looped for 5 gens. Its frustraiting when it happens. (Yes i should of gave up chase but i think he was cheating cause legit couldnt even catch him when i had straight paths to him. Or my lunges but w/e)

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,781

    "DBD is the most balanced game of its kind" More like one of the only ones of its kind.

    People say dbd is survivor sided for a good reason. Survivors, in general, have so much going for them. The ultimate strategy for them is to split up on gens, that's it. Since most maps aren't designed well or are too big for a few of them, you can't really pressure all of them at once. Most of the maps are survivor sided because there is just too much for survivors to work with. It won't happen EVERY game you load into as some maps with a different setup can be a bit more favorable to the killer, but this doesn't happen nearly enough.

    Then there are perks to deal with. Survivors have quite the selection when it comes to meta perks. The most powerful of them all (and arguably the most broken) is DS. Followed by the usual, SB, DH, adrenaline, BT, unbreakable, and deliverance. Even better, all of these perks can stack of 4 different survivors so now you will have 4 survivors to deal with that have the best survivor perks.

    Notice how there is quite a selection of extremely powerful perks for survivors. 3 of them are just straight-up second chance perks if you look at them a different way such as DS, unbreakable, deliverance, dead hard, and I guess adrenaline (although this one is more reasonable, it only feels unfair if 3 or more people is running it).

    Now, what do killers have to use? Ruin, undying, bbq, thrilling tremors, pop, corrupt intervention, tinkerer, STBFL, sloppy butcher, and infectious fright. At first, it sounds like a lot right? Well, these perks maybe a healthy selection of perks to choose from, but the problem isn't the perks. The perks are just fine, fantastic even. The problem is map design and the killers of low tiers.

    Think of someone like Wraith running idk a windstorm addon and bone clapper with corrupt intervention, STBFL, sloppy butcher, and infectious fright. This is a very good build for the Wraith, but he is still Wraith. He doesn't have much chase potential or map pressure ability. This means you are going to have to play near perfectly against a good team of survivors to possibly get 2 kills on average. Imagine this on a more open map such as the Macmillian estate. Survivors can literally see you across the map even when "cloaked" and "undetectable".

    Killer doesn't really have any second chance perks except for NOED and I guess bloodwarden.

    NOED is a pretty badly designed perk, I think we can all agree on that. And no, don't give me that "just do bones" talk because if that were true undying + ruin wouldn't be a problem.

    Blood warden is kind of a second chance, but it is very situational as it requires you to hook a person in the endgame collapse. But even then, it lasts for only one minute.

    If the devs truly balanced perks, DS wouldn't be a problem.

    Skill practice and perks can only do so much at times, it will definitely help, but it is not enough in the current game.

    PS: Just because you yourself witnessed a slaughter, that does not mean that killers must be better than survivors. It was pretty clear that the bubba you faced got lucky and downed everyone because they made the mistake of grouping up.

  • Shirokinukatsukami
    Shirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624

    Well Leatherface is pretty overtuned right now.

    They buffed him way too much. It is impossible to avoid him now if you are not in a very good spot with lots of windows. He can zig zag through obstacles like no tomorrow with his new turn rate and he can use that chainsaw forever, and he's fast too. And oh yeah they nerfed all the maps with good windows so now all you have are crap loop spots.

    So no surprise you got done in by a leatherface. I can count on one hand the number of times I've won against a Leatherface since his rework. Solo Q teams cannot beat Leatherface. That is practically a fact at this point.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    I remember using the re-opening trap add-on and placing a trap at a pallet on pale rose swamp. The same Feng walked into it 4 times 😂 my brain just couldn't handle what I was seeing lol

  • Zani22
    Zani22 Member Posts: 444

    Well if that happens as trapper I think he'd be famous within a day I've never seen anyone on dbd get 4 traps at the same time.. He'd also dethrone otz trapper

  • Komodo16
    Komodo16 Member Posts: 1,488

    Ha! Red ranks survivor here to say that is hard as hell. I play solo and with all the hook rushes or people not healing me I am almost always one shot and I can max hold easy but nt altruism when everyone just gets hooks. Like holy hell random suck and it makes pipping difficult. But I do agree running a killer all game guarantees a pip at green ranks

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    LOL and then they say it was a boring match. While i had a blast laughing about them.😂

  • DontNerf
    DontNerf Member Posts: 990

    I can tell you aren't the most experienced player. Leather face is an instant down killer lats pretty much all he has

    Try spreading out rather than grouping up

  • Dabihwow
    Dabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    How much you wanna bet he's an entitled survivor main?

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    I swear I've seen a video where a Trapper has downed a survivor and within 10 seconds 3 other survivors walked into traps.

    I don't get enough complaining messages unfortunately lol wish I did

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    Nah hugging each other is the Chad strat against Bubba. It's to assert dominance and to show you're not afraid of the fact that he could end the game in literally 5 seconds.

    Although this strat doesn't have a very high success rate.

  • maximus909
    maximus909 Member Posts: 19

    So. I'm more observent than I am irrationally opinionated. I speak up when I see the time is right. I don't spew off at the drop of a hat, like you apparently do. It's one thing to wait then react rather than to jump the gun due to an over reaction in the moment. Try it sometime.

  • WretchedElk
    WretchedElk Member Posts: 311

    When he revs the chainsaw take a sharp left or right. That beats me almost every time.

    As long as you don’t run in straight line you’ll probably get away. You will against me anyway.

  • Squirrel_Thicc
    Squirrel_Thicc Member Posts: 2,677
    edited December 2020

    I'm irrationally opinionated? You're the one that said this game isn't survivor sided. You lost one game and came here screaming and crying about killers being op. I don't wanna hear this holier than thou bs.

  • Rivyn
    Rivyn Member Posts: 3,022

    This has to be a bait post. Gave me a laugh though.

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    Move onto your next match, don't dwell on a bad match.

    Leatherface is a poorly designed killer, that is true. He makes Freddy look like some pro play high skill character. Just not nearly as rewarding.

    And you stirred up the killer wasp nest of the forum, not sure whether to laugh at their attacks on you as they are so hypocritical it's hilarious or to be sad cause this is how mains of both sides behave.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Bubba is loopable so what makes him poorly designed and low skill? I literally have to mindgame survivors to get a chance to use my chainsaw which -on a side note- requires precision to go around tight loops while avoiding collision and timing as using the charges too quickly reduces the chainsaw range whereas Freddy has no mechanical requirements at all.

    There's literally nothing you can mess up mechanically as Freddy.

    Your opinion is therefore objectively wrong.

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    Sorry to offend the Bubba main. But there's more and more dead zones coming into play leading Bubba to a easier time to just walk up and saw. Pallets are very unsafe with him as he typically hits you through them as well, it's a coin flip. And there's plenty of videos of hits through windows where the Survivor is a pretty fair distance from the window. Since his saw is a one hit and makes him zoom zoom it happens even more and is more frustrating to go against than regular Killers who need two shots on you.

    Oni can one shot me, but he has to work for it. Blight can one shot with add on, but he has to use a add on and work for it. Myers has to build it up and it's limited time unless he ran add ons. GF has to build it up. Huntress is a add on. (tho I don't like truck sized projectile one shots either) Billy's is easier to dodge and has to be well aimed. Cannibal is always available, easier to use, and his can down multiple survivors.

    To top it off, he is literally the killer who can simply deny saves by existing. He's a bad design.

    Also like Freddy's 10 foot pole arms, Leatherface's speed is very misleading. He looks a lot slower than he actually is moving.

    There's a lot wrong with him, not a lot right with him besides I guess he matches up to his movie counterpart well?

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Deadzones and unsafe pallets are a fair point - I give you that. I don't feel particularly excited about getting a down when there was no pallet or window around myself. It's way more fun to get a chainsaw hit while anti-looping.

    Chainsaw hits through pallet drop animations aren't really a Bubba issue because mechanically he is designed to be stun-able (is that even a word?) during his chainsaw sweep. If survivors drop the pallet during my chainsaw sweeps I will get stunned and not break the pallet or even get the hit by 99.99%.

    Last time I got a hit through the pallet and literally went like "WOOOW ######### !" because it's extremely rare for me. Maybe because I live near a server. Don't know.

    Anyways I'm not offended in particular as everyone dislikes going against a specific killer. Can't make everyone happy. Personally I despise going against Spirit to this day as I feel like everything you do is what you'd describe as a coin flip except it is like that even without lag.

  • JimbusCrimbus
    JimbusCrimbus Member Posts: 1,116

    If you were all downed in rapid succession like that, it was nobody's fault but your own. Stop grouping up. It's incredibly bad form, and also the least efficient way do play survivor. In short, git gud.

    You didn't lose because the game is killer sided, you lost because you screwed up. Plain and simple.

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    I'm maining Twins and have seen plenty of hate on them. One side complaining they are weaker than dirt and not worth a killer slot and the other side complaining they are OP busted monsters destroying the game. I get you there.

    Last night I had a couple rough Leatherface matches where I got the animation/pallet down but still got downed even though I got the stun on him as well. But the biggest issue I have always had with him is the anti-save potential that most Bubbas use. It's not fun sitting on a hook with a Bubba revving his saw in front of you at the start of the match. Yes the others might do gens and escape, but it's the worst gameplay experience a match can be.

    I personally feel I hate Freddy, Spirit, Leatherface, and Plague the most to play against. I do dislike Spirit and Freddy more the Leatherface since they are more prominent and used in Red ranks and more likely are team wipe. Leatherface is just the ultimate camper who can OHKO in ways that feel unjust. And Plague just simply removes healing from the match which is ridiculous for altruism players and the points. To be honest both sides have a lot of mechanics that aren't fun to face, so it's kind of easy to pick apart the annoying aspects of literally everyone.

  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911

    Advice op force the m1 hit never get caught in the open. Focus on keeping a vault and a pallet close by. Experience will get you there on how to route and plan out your movement. Also avoid the forums and instead watch videos to teach things like routing and optimum positions to hold at loops. OhTofu does quite a few dbd survivor videos that can help teach how to use certain loops that will massively help. Dbd is a snowbally game you will lose hard or win hard very few situations does a dbd game end with both sides performing well. Don't get annoyed by a killers power especially when your learning the more advanced mechanics of how to deal with them. Take each L as a opportunity to look back and ask what could I have done better.

  • maximus909
    maximus909 Member Posts: 19

    I wasn't complaining about us all being downed so quickly. I was merely pointing out that the killer had skills, and that those killer players complaining that DBD is more favorable towards survivors is a myth. And all those crying survivors need to do is practice more. Pay attention next time, because again..... I wasn't complaining about all the survivors being downed quickly in the trial I was in.

  • JimbusCrimbus
    JimbusCrimbus Member Posts: 1,116

    It's not a myth, though. If you pit 4 skilled survivors, even solos, against an equally skilled killer, the survivors DO have the upper hand, every single time. It's just how the game works.