thesuicidefox's Survivor Tier List (4.4.2)

S/A tier is reserved for survivors with meta perks. I wouldn't consider either Inner Strength or Repressed Alliance meta. Soul Guard is meta but only when paired with Unbreakable. Also DS/UB is much stronger than DS/IS or DS/HO. You could make an entire build around DS and lockers with the 3 perks but you could do equally as well with only DS.

Also I was going to put David in S tier but No Mither, and also WGLF is not exactly meta it's just a really good perk. He's mostly there because of Dead Hard. Just like Laurie is mostly there because of DS (also OOO is very very good).

S tier is for the best of the best. Deliverance is not the best of the best. Definitely meta, but the fact you lose it if you are caught first (or when everyone else is dead) knocks it down a few steps. Autodidact is a decent perk, but not good enough to make up for Deliverance's shortcomings.

You have to remember tier lists are relative rankings. So while IS may be a good perk, it's not going to be better than Adren, UB, DS, BT, Self Care, Dead Hard, Prove Thyself...

By putting it in S/A tier you are saying it is as good or better than all the perks in S/A tier.

Jeff is as high as he is because Aftercare is a very good aura perk. Also Breakdown when used as a group is actually super effective at denying the killer pressure. I had a game recently when 2 or 3 had it, and there came a point where I had no hooks in an area and I was forced to slug at a bad time. Distortion is probably his worst perk honestly.

The thing with Soul Guard is you need to be running UB to get the most value out of it. On it's own it's not really a great perk. Repressed Alliance is solid but the problem there is you need to work on a gen for 60 seconds, so if you get chased a lot there is no value. It's almost like Deliverance in a way.

Tapp I thought about putting higher, but his perks are all utility. You don't run Tenacity by itself you bring UB/SG. Detective's Hunch is his best perk and while very useful you can get the same results with a map, or even just basic knowledge of how objects spawn. And while this is sort of true with Self Care, SC has infinite use compared to a medkit and frees you to carry a toolbox or something else. Being able to heal yourself is ALWAYS valuable. Being able to see stuff you could find just by knowing the game well is not always as valuable. Also Claud has Empathy and BK which are both really good perks, and the fact she is a starting character while Tapp/Cheryl are only available with real money has an impact too. You'll notice that aside from Laurie and Nancy the top 3 tiers are all base game characters (at least for SE like we have on Xbox/PS). So while in absolute terms Cheryl might have better perks the fact you can have to buy her makes it harder to say it's actually that good. When you don't have to spend money on the game and still have a fully meta build that's why most of the base characters are where they are.

You guys don't seem to understand how a tier list works.

A tier list is a relative ranking of some thing. That means that any particular thing on the list is ranked in comparison to every other thing. So while THING A might be a good thing, if it's not objectively more impactful than THING B then it will be lower on the tier list. This does not mean thing A is bad, just that compared to thing B (and everything above it) it's not as impactful on the game.

None of Jeff, Cheryl, or Tapps perks are as impactful as the perks for characters above them. Would you say Jeff's perks, despite being pretty good, are as good or better than perks in tier A? Better or as good as stuff like Dead Hard, Self Care, Prove Thyself? If so then you could say it's tier A but I doubt anyone would say Aftercare or Breakdown are as valuable as Dead Hard and Self Care. Same with Cheryl. You don't see Repressed Alliance being as impactful as BT or DS. Not even close. Soul Guard you could make an argument for, but at the same time it's reliant on other actual meta perks like UB or DS to get real value. On it's own Soul Guard is not a very good perk, at least not on the same level as UB or DS.

It might hurt to see your character low, or see a character whose perks you love to use low, but you have to remember it's all relative. Just because a character has F tier perks doesn't mean those perks are COMPLETELY useless, just that literally every other perk is better.

I like Detective's Hunch, but the problem with it is that it can be replaced by a map, or by just understanding how objects/tiles spawn. Like yes, it's great to be able to see the totems and run right to them but it's not entirely necessary to get them all. I know where every totem spawn is on almost any map, if I really want I can just run the map once or twice and get them all, or just check for them as I move from gen to gen. Not to mention that if the killer doesn't have a totem it's kind of pointless. And on the off-chance they have NOED, well if I just make a mental note of totems, maybe doing the ones that would be hard to get or find otherwise, NOED is almost a non-issue. Maybe 1 person gets hit but that's all the killer is gonna get against a survivor like me. So while it's a nice perk, it's just completely unnecessary at the end of the day. It's more of a QOL buff than anything else.

And Tenacity is not good by itself. Not like Inner Strength, Lithe, Balanced, or Iron Will. It's the perk you pair with another perk to actually get value.

"Maps can run out, both from your inventory and total usage time during the match. Also maps generally require that you pass within 8m of objects before it starts tracking them. For all of those reasons, maps cannot replace Detective's Hunch."

If your map runs out and you didn't find all the totems, like WHAT THE FUDGE were you doing with it then? That's literally the point of a map, to find totems. You shouldn't be even coming close to running out if you are using it for this purpose. Not to mention you shouldn't even be using it until you ran the map at least once. The game tells you when something gets tracked via Bloodpoints so run in a circle around the map then light it up. Do some totems, then only use it to track down the last few by waiting for more BP prompts. Again you should never be running out.

This besides the fact that, like I said, Detective's is barely worth running if you know how tiles/objects spawn. The entire purpose of the perk is negated by just lots of experience. Where no amount of experience can make up for how much value you get from Dead Hard or DS or BT etc.

And by your own argument, the aura from Detective's only last 10 seconds. If you are in a chase you don't exactly have the luxury to look around when a gen pops so you can miss stuff. And you only get 5 procs, that's 50 seconds, and since gens tend to go in pairs or triplets thats means you lose a lot of time. If you were the first one chased you lost 30 seconds of aura reading.

Tenacity just isn't that great though. Majority of kills pick you up right away, and if the killer is slugging multiple people well they could very likely have something like BBQ to find you, so you're not going to hide that well from them. A good killer will still find you. I'll admit I've lost some people using Tenacity, but then when I catch them again I make sure they don't get away.

Aftercare gives you information about another player which you can't predict or control like you can tiles/objects. I can know where every totem spawn is and where gens are so as not 3 gen. I don't know what this Dwight is going to do if he gets chased to the main building while I'm on a gen. If I have Aftercare on him I can see what he does so I can avoid the killer, or maybe protect him if needed. He also sees me and can decide to run away from my gen so that I can finish it.

Aftercare also shares information with other survivors. They get a lead on what you are doing, which helps them. So it's like a perk that helps 2 people. Breakdown has a physical effect on the game by taking out a hook for 2 minutes. That can alter what a killer does. If you get tunneled but then he uses 2 hooks in a corner he might not be able to hook you again so he slugs. The best value you get from Detective's is that you optimize your ability to destroy totems, which has diminishing returns based on how well you know the game.