Sick of this killer sided game

They do. It helps very little because we do not know the context behind them.

For example, Nurse has a 40% kill rate. Looking at that, we would assume Nurse needs buffs, but common sense tells us that isn't true.

I will tell you that Decisive Strike is probably used in 90% of Red Rank games.

Based off the most recent stats, the Kill Rate is about 56% at all ranks and 68% at Red Ranks. This means that the Killer is getting 2 kills on average per game.

Another thread where the lack of skill of players is used as an argument for unbalance. Git gud or git gone.

lol

I mean, survivors already have long queues.

I´m sure more killer nerfs will improve the situation...

The first Kill after 1min into the game ensure at least 3 Kill

The first Killer before 3 Gen done has super high chance to 3 Kill

The first Kill after almost 4 Gen done is a fair game.

Kill rate data is unreliable...

I don't agree with the game being killer sided but I do agree with the point about solo q. Any good killer will beat pretty much every 4 man solo q squad they face. It is extremely easy.

I think you should rename this discussion to something more about solo q vs swf.

I dont think spirit and freddy can win 100% of their games.

Correct. That means that the Killer CAN get a 3K. It isn't super uncommon, but it isn't happening a lot either. The average is still two, since you can't kill half a Survivor.

Because a Mori off of first hook is a lot different then a kill during the EGC when that Survivor has been hooked twice already.

You might disagree but its not "the survivors" who lost in your hatch escape example.

• 1 survivor got the hatch and escaped. They mightve used a shortcut bit they reached the goal.
• The killer got 75% of their objectives, or less if you're a 12hook guy. Can pass as a win bit its not flawless.
• The sacrificed/dead/ dc'd people didnt reach their goal.

Emblems are another can of worms that'd might srill depip the killer pr pip the dead.

Looking at the hatch escape as a loss for (all) survivors doesnt happen as often as calling it a win. Atleast in my meager experience with swfs.

And honestly. Dbd lacks the emblem / bloodpoint score differentiation of grouped survivors and others.

Those stats don't show anything about pick rate or the rank of the players using her. The people that main and mastered her are in the digit percentage and the biggest part of the rest can't really play her resulting in a low kill percentage (red rank or not). Most don't want to play her since it takes several dozen to hundreds of hours to be truly effiz with her.

Game isn't killer sided at all, but it should be.

I want to feel the Lovecraftian hopelessness when playing as survivor. Make me pray for mercy during a match. That's how I want to feel like as a survivor in a "horror" game. There's a whole market that focuses on people who like games where the odds are greatly stacked against them (rogue-likes/lites, darkest dungeon, dark souls, ..). Dead by daylight should be the multiplayer equivalent of that type of game giving those players a lasting infinite formula satisfying that niche.

Right now, killer actually feels more often like a Lovecraftian hopeless experience than survivor which is absurd.

I think it's very important to clarify something, and please don't just jump at my throat :)

When people say this game is survivor sided, they say this when referring to a high level of play. What I mean by this is not red ranks, as from thousands of hours in this game I would guess that up to 80% of all red rank players (on both sides) would not be there in an ideal MMR system. I don't say this to be mean, I say this because this game has a steep learning curve (allow me to explain). I think that this learning curve is the main reason for the concept of a killer sided game, and it makes sense that this happens. I believe that killer is much easier at the lower levels of play, whereas survivor is more difficult (this is assuming you are actually trying to play optimally, not just being immersed. As you gain experience and climb the rankings, you get to a decent level of survivor. I would define this as someone who isn't scared of the killer, does gens almost always when they aren't getting chased, and have a decent concept of looping fundamentals. These kinds of players exist across all ranks, however the ranking system doesn't always favor this playstyle, as a mistake while looping can set you back.

Once you get to this level, and move up the learning curve to this point, I find that this is where the game becomes balanced to survivor sided. I can't just say one way or the other, as there are so many variables in play that each trial is different (perks, addons, swf/solo q). Before you reach this level, however, it's completely understandable that you would find the game killer sided. Killer is much easier to pick up, as simply following survivors and cutting them off as necessary will catch most survivors you face. When this is the low standard for playing killer, compared to the difficult learning curve for survivor, the game will obviously seem unbalanced for someone who hasn't reached as far up that curve yet.

Again, this is not an attack on anyone. I'm simply saying that survivor takes a much longer time to become a decent player compared to killer, which leads to it seeming like the game is killer-sided, when in reality its just that killer is easier to learn. I should clarify, I don't think killer is easier when both sides are good players, just in terms of learning the role.

Go ahead with that line of tought. Survivors queues are absurdly long RN so imagine with more survivor sided decisions. Entlitlement is killing this game.

Sounds like you are still in the newbie or haven't learn to play well phase. In the early skill levels it seems that killers are OP. In higher skill levels it is clear that survivors have the benefits.

Word of warning - it takes 1 killer to give 4 survivors a game. Lose 1 killer, 4 survivors have to wait in the queue longer. Lose 100 killers, 400 survivors have to wait longer....and so on. Since we have seen an increase in survivor queue times, what do you think is happening?

Can vouch, just did 4 gens, got undying + ruin for my team and they still all threw. Unhooking me right in front of leatherface? Really bro? Thanks for destroying your own team