Basement
The basement is imo one of the most ridiculous things in the game, why, because against certain killers, from the moment you hooked one person in it, this person is guaranted to die or someone else in a 1 for 1 or EVEN in worst cases both. That is just dumb and encourages braindead techniques such as guaranted win with the basement. I have just went against a Demogorgon, we were doing very well, problem, someone got hooked in the basement, and he wouldnt stop camping it, every time someone was going for it, it was a 1 for 1 or even both down if the person who saved didn't have BT, there is no excuse for this, this is basically not counterable. Do something BHVR.
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That's an issue with the player, not the game.
If you get caught near the basement, it's your fault for taking the risk in that area.
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Yeah exactly, you shouldn’t exactly loop near basement if it can be helped. Especially versus a powerful basement killer. trapper, hag, bubba, and demo immediately come to mind as the best basement hook killers.
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What would you personally recommend?
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I totally understand the "risk" part but at this point if the killer decided you will die in the basement you will and that's more than extremely snowballing, I don't understand
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And the killer can decide of you die outside of the basement as well. If the killer wants you dead, you will die. Your point?
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Almost everything on the map is designed to give survivors the advantage in a match. The basement is the one strong thing that killers get, there is no need to do anything to it. It is not impossible to rescue from the basement unless it's Bubba, which is very rare to face. Even then, as others have stated, you have a responsibility to be aware of your surroundings when playing this game.
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And the basement sits below a reliable safe loop with window that good survivors even once the pallet drops can make life difficult. And if there's another survivor in the area waiting to stun the killer hauling someone, that pallet can lock down one of the two entrances. Depending on distance to shack that can force the killer to go elsewhere. So high risk high rewards for shack tile.
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I'm not OP but I also despise the basement as a mechanic. Not just as survivor but as killer. If there's no other hooks in the area because the basement spawned there I have to waste so much time going down there and back up. I think it would be better if there were 2 or 3 hooks on the inside of the killer shack in a row, opposite the window where the stairs usually are. And for the non-shack basements just put a hook on top of the place where it used to be, and have more hooks in that area. Simple.
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The basement can be the difference between winning and losing for a killer. It's actual risk in a game where you are supposed to be afraid of killers. Don't go in the basement!
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The basement is supposed to be a scary place, that's why you get more BP the longer you spend down there. Most killers don't have insta downs, so it shouldn't be a 1 for 1 trade. The healthy rescuer take the hit and 2 injured survivors escape. Also, I have found Head On, great to use in basements.
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The basement is designed to be a risky place to make escapes from...if the killer is camping and you can't make saves as a group, then do the gens and leave the game, that's pretty much the only way you can effectively "punish" a camping killer. 1 for 1'ing is just feeding them points/pips.
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The basement literally exists to enable camping. That's it's only purpose. People can go on about "risky saves" all they want, being hooked in basement isn't a problem unless the killer is camping it. In fact, if I had the option to disable it in my killer trials, I would, because it actually wastes precious hook spawns, and thereby precious seconds making it down to and up from basement, which is not paid off in any way unless you're a camper.
Plus, the second chance meta makes even basement camping a joke, so if anyone needed a third reason to hate it, there you go.
And a fourth reason: you can't really avoid it without prior knowledge, so to anyone who says "don't go down near basement" please remember that that's about a quarter of the map you're saying to not loop, which is impossible to tell which of the two quarters (almost always two spawns to a map) unless you burned an offerring or just got lucky and spotted basement early.
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Someone camping basement, apply pressure by doing gens, when the person is about to hit the next stage you can do a 1 for 1 and gain even more time to do them all. Followed by a 3 man escape?
Another option is to heal up and do a multi survivor rescue even after doing the gens by exchanging 1 for 1? Protection hits, BT save, 3 people walk in healthy, 4 people walk out injured and yet you all walk out?
This is a team game, you were dragged into the basement... the lair of the killer and expect it to be a walk in the park to escape it?
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im sick and tired of hearing this, you dont punish anything, the killer "legally" just wasted everyones time.
AFKing is not allowed "cuz it ruins the match"
DCing is not allowed "cuz it ruins the match"
Letting yourself die on first hook is allowed but you are not allowed to tell people to do it on this forum "cuz it ruins the match"
But basement dwelling and camping is perfectly fine, just do gens and leave and get no points whatsoever and probably De-pip all around for not having done any rescuis or healing or getting chased at all.
And even worse when it takes a while before players realize camping is in effect, enjoy a second death by NoeD as you have no time to do all the gens AND get all the totems as well.
and as for banned mr chieften333 that everyone upvotes so, yeah good luck not going down "near" the basement against iron grasp, agitation builds...
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