Survivors are more powerful than killers right now

Of course playing as a survivor is easier because you have four team mates with each one of you doing 25% of your job. Whereas, a killer you are forced to play by yourself taking up 100% responsibility of your action.

I feel like most of the time when reading these forums it comes up as you guys sounding like you always want a 4K game because if you are really struggling, then why are you playing at such high rank games? It doesn’t make sense to why you said you are a rank 1 player, knowing that you are going to be up against experienced players who may be better than you. You shouldn’t feel like two gens pop and think you are losing unless you know that you made a bad decision. Otherwise, you would feel more accepting and know that you in a winning position from the number of hooks you got compared to gens done.

Another thing that I see is people complaining about gen speeds, but are forgetting that there are games in which killers can win faster than gens being done. So if you can overlook survivor losing faster than gens being done, what’s different to you speaking of gens being done quickly when you as a killer are capable of finishing games quickly.

In 2019, the devs came out with two graph in which shows killers being in the stronger position than survivors. So clearly it has nothing to do with survivors being the stronger role, but rather how the killer uses there role to fight back against them.

Almost every game such as Morden warfare would have two teams, just because one team is losing doesn’t mean the game is unbalanced, you are just getting outplayed.

I play killer as Myers, a killer no one puts above A tier, but yet still manage to beat red rank teams more times than they have. So I think the rank you are in, isn’t suitable for you if you are finding it too difficult.

One problem is on console I have noticed a lot is survior mains think it's harder to play survivor than killer. Met multiple swf who tried to bash me for being a killer main as "survivor is so much harder and killer is easy". It's because of people like them who complain to the devs non stop killers won't be powerful with most of the survivors tht have said killer is easy I looked at there profile and they only had around 100-200 kills in total which is barely anything. I feel like devs should listen to killers some more and to not baby survivors as much like they did with ruin. It's not as bad as it use to but it can't be fixed if survivors keep getting there way and if a killer can get a 4k it's nerf or nothing.

Being killer is just as easy as playing survivor. At first, you suck. What i see as the main problem is that gamer(in general) think reworks are done by a majority vote. When a game is dictated by the players, things get fked up.

I honestly don’t mind taking a screen shot of every game starting now, where the whole survivor team are rank 5 to below players.

if the optimal killer’s skill is being overlooked by gen progression, can’t you say that the survivors were also optimal if they were capable of beating the optimal killer? Also, I don’t get it, because the killer was playing optimal it means the survivor team should stand no chance of winning?

Another thing is that if you speak about gen progression at what speed are you speaking of it? This is because if a survivor complete the objective too fast, they would just end up getting depip. The same goes for if the killer slugs at the start of the game and destroys a survivor team.

You say that survivors “currently supersedes the killer's ability to maintain consistent relative control over the course of the game in his or her favor.” If this truly was the case then why is there killer’s that are rank 1 or 2? Surely they shouldn’t be standing a chance if survivors always have the win in their favour? This obviously shows that killers are not in any means less superior to survivors if they are capable of claiming high in the ranks. Tru3 shown killers such as the wraith being viable in red ranks by winning lots of games consistently. This obviously shows that killer ranked low stands a chance of winning depending on the killer user.

What is with these posts where you have survivor mains who have never touched killer, play like one or two game of killer and then say it’s so hard. Of course it’s gonna feel hard at first if you’ve never played that role before. People should honestly try playing both sides consistently at red ranks before making opinions on balance. Also I 4K more often than I escape so that’s I’ll I will say on balance.

I think one of the biggest issues with balancing gen speed is that folks are looking too much through the lens of their respective teams when discussing how to balance things properly (whether intentionally or not.) The disconnect between Killer and Survivor experiences are giving folks different views of how the game is, and which side is truly the more powerful one. When you're sitting in the same spot, holding down a button and occasionally looking over your shoulder, it feels like you've been there for a while. But when you're running around, chasing and hitting people, it doesn't feel as long. That time distortion is where, I believe, most problems arise from. That being said tho, I also think things like comms are what give Survivors that edge that tips the game into their favor (I say this as a Survivor main that solo queues.) Killers would have an easier time if they were able to scramble Survivors. Confuse and disorient them. But comms outright nullify a Killer's ability to do that. That organization is what will steamroll Killers. There's a reason why folks often dodge lobbies that they believe contain a SWF group.

I mean it can't be helped.

One side will always be stronger then the other. True balance is a fantasy.

They have always been.

I agree. It did when the game first started but after they introduced the emblem system and changed conditions it doesn't anymore. an Adept Killer used to be a 4K with 3 base perks. now it has to be a double pip or you get nothing.

I play both survivor and killer, and it may just be this weekend because of the blood point bonus but I've be facing killers that are acting really weird.

appearing to have auto aim,

moving much faster then they should

getting hits that are nowhere close to connecting. I mean on the other side of a downed pallet and running away and I still get hit. or facing the total opposite direction and I still get hit.

It's the game or the players but something has been up as of late.

and playing against survivors, forget about it. every dirty trick in the book is being used. As someone who doesn't main the killer role I get why no one wants to play killer because it's not fun most of the time. I don't mind not killing everyone but when I can literally find no one because people disappear from right in front of me. It's not fun. And I don't mean they went around a corner and lost them I mean downed them right next to a hook and a wall they disappeared.

This game definitely leans towards survivors. Full team cooperation is not hard to achieve as a solo because there's only one objective, but we get complaints of survivor woes because that cooperation is also easily broken. We need balance for when survivors are all straight business, not for those who haven't figured out what teamwork is.