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What is your definition of tunneling?

So my definition is within a short amount of time after you're unhooked the killer is already back on you. Here's why I ask this. Just had a game where I was Hillbilly on Rotten Fields. I had just got a hook and was getting ready to leave then immediately after the last person hooked a Nancy was already going for the unhook soon after she was unhooked down her I was DS'd I cried on the inside. So then I go chase someone else. Then Tinkerer goes off didn't have PGTW or Ruin but went there and what do you know the Nancy was there and she didn't heal. So I down her hook her. I didn't leave because I saw a Feng near by found her downed her. And Nancy dies. Then the Feng and someone else burned a shack hatch offering find hatch and escape. Then I find the last survivor kill them. Then the Nancy messages me console calls me trash and tunneler says go watch a youtuber and get good. Then this got me laughing I was like why'd didn't you run away and heal and go for the unhook. And she said she was getting tunneled and had no choice but to go for unhook. So what's your definition of tunneling.

Comments

  • Asssblasster625
    Asssblasster625 Member Posts: 629

    Your a better man than I she would’ve died right after ds

  • Avilgus
    Avilgus Member Posts: 1,261

    Doing objective, like "genrushing".

    It's so dumb.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,346

    Tunneling would be going after the unhooked while ignoring everything else until that survivor was dead.

    Alt. Chasing a survivor through a prolonged chase where they could of easily prevented other survivors from doing objectives. ie. Survivors repairing a gen in the open a few meters from where you are chasing another.

  • apathyinc
    apathyinc Member Posts: 509

    Intensely focusing one objective, while completely ignoring all the others. So in theory someone could be tunneling players, generators, totems, chests, whatever.

  • Axx
    Axx Member Posts: 392

    I think tunneling is when the killer tries to re-hook you right after you get unhooked. The Nancy was trying to abuse DS and get the unpunished unhook. Then she went on a gen and you found her. That is not tunneling. This is what bias survivors love to do. It's the reason so many don't want DS changed to be a real anti-tunnel perk. In the future just get your laugh from the player messaging salt and move on. Not need to even question if you tunneled, because in any good non bias player's eyes, you didn't tunnel.

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,781

    Going after only the person being unhooked. And ignoring everyone else.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    tunneling imo is when the killer drops anything they were currently doing, return to the hook and chase down the previously unhooked survivor, ignoring away anyone else, even if they are just as, if not even more, vulnerable than said unhooked person.

    in short: screw everything else and ruin this one persons game, then wonder how they did 4 gens already and complain about genrush.

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    I'm going to go against the grain here I think:

    Tunneling

    verb

    gerund or present participle: tunneling

    dig or force a passage underground or through something.

    *I don't really think it has much, if any, meaning in DbD.

  • Karao_Ke
    Karao_Ke Member Posts: 1,221

    We all know what tunneling is, but sometimes seem to forget what tunneling isn't.

    Tunneling is not:

    • Punishing someone bodyblocking you because they have BT after getting off of hook.
    • Punishing someone bodyblocking because they have DS and want to abuse that.


    The main point is, if you just got off of hook and aren't trying to get away from me as fast as possible, but instead try to bait me with BT/and or DS, I have every right to tunnel you since I deliberately went out of my way not to and that's the thanks I get.

  • kingcarl2012
    kingcarl2012 Member Posts: 1,710

    Due to the broken state of matchmaking i do this in games when ive determined that 1 person is the only one at or near my skill level. If i have already spent a minute and a half chasing you without getting a hit and you try to pull aggro im just going right past you i dont care if its a free hit you already had your chance.

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    This is the exact reason Mend needs to be more punishing. Everytime someone has BT they feel the need to bodyblock me going for the unhooker I used to always hit them to make them mend but then I realized that cost me more than them. Maybe it will help next patch idk doubt it. As for DS I completely agree survivors need it there are alot of trashcan killers out there in ALL ranks that bolt straight back to the hook soon as they here it no matter what there doing (assuming they left it in the first place) but there is nothing worse then hooking someone going to a gen finding survivors there starting a chase downing someone hooking that person and x amount of time later you catch the original person at a gen, or unhooking, or just heading to another gen and get his with ds from 2 chases ago. Every time I'm like what the hell oh yaaa damn it I hate that perk.

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583

    Tunneling is called tunneling because the Killer has "tunnel-vision" on that Survivor to the exclusion of all others.


    It is "I want YOU dead, specifically".


    I will tunnel if you bring a Key. I will tunnel if you teabag me. But that's it.


    One thing that I see very commonly is I will hook someone, go off to apply gen pressure, let that person get unhooked (yes, I said "let" - do not flatter yourself, I was well aware you had a friend in the area) and then lo and behold 30 seconds later the same person I hooked earlier is brazenly running in front of the map in clear view in her brightly colored cosmetic with her scratch marks in tow.


    Listen, if you are gonna be that bold while your friend does his best Ryu Hayabusa impression, that's on you. I am not tunneling because you are the next person I see because you cannot be bothered to hide or even try to be subtle about it.

  • Damarus
    Damarus Member Posts: 600
    edited January 2021

    To me, tunneling comprises two things. The first is the basic definition of tunneling the whole community knows, does and is subject to: having the killer chase someone who was just unhooked, possibly even dropping another chase for that. The second and much more prominent one is having the killer chase the same guy, forever, until he gets boosted enough by Bloodlust and/or the survivor ends up being in a no pallet zone, so the killer can finally get him not because of mindgames, predictions or skill, but because of the aforementioned things.


    On the other hand, what you did to that Nancy was not tunneling. Just ignore those people, if you know for sure you didn't tunnel. And by the way, those who tunnel do that on purpose, so... You would know, too.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    Tunneling is a tactic that is occasionally needed in the game. I really have no problem with it, except when someone uses it as their overall strategy and not just a tactic to swing momentum.

    Tunneling to me is camping/coming straight back to the hook when someone is pulled off. Chasing the unhooked guy, downing and hooking him right away. Ignoring others, even if they take a hit so they are now injured. Ignoring BT and DS. It is the intentional decision to attempt to eliminate a player from the game as quickly as possible.

    This is not always the wrong decision. Sometimes it is the smartest move. However, if it is your go to strategy ,game after game, with five gens or one, well you are less than fun to face. But, that is still and individuals decision, and may well be fun for them.

    And, finding the unhooked guy on a genny, across the map, as you are patrolling, that is just bad luck.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,168

    Tunneling: the act of eliminating a survivor because they don't escape the chase (just try to loop), refuse to hide, or teammates place them in a bad spot with an unhook.

  • ChiSoxFan11
    ChiSoxFan11 Member Posts: 1,093

    I define "tunneling" in this game from a killer standpoint as ignoring every other objective at hand -- whether that be other survivors, defending generators, etc. -- to specifically go after one survivor, at the cost of everything else.

    Going back to the hook after a rescue does not constitute tunneling. If a unsafe rescue is made in the killer's face, especially without BT, well, that's on the survivors. If it happens to me, I'll go after the rescuer and not the person unhooked, unless the latter player makes it a point to bodyblock due to BT/DS, in which case, I might then punish them for it. If a killer goes back to a hook because they're not in a chase, that's not tunneling either (unless they purposely ignore the rescuer to go after the person rescued). If I've left the hook and don't either have gens to pressure or another survivor to go after, then I know where half the team is after a rescue and I'll go back, though again, I'll go after the person making the rescue. If the rescuer slinks away to hide, leaving their unhooked teammate unhealed and vulnerable and isn't willing to take the aggro for them, again, that's on the survivors and I wouldn't classify that as tunneling.

    I played a survivor round against a Trapper a couple of weeks back. I was the first person they chased and eventually downed. The Trapper was essentially camping (patroling only around the immediate area of the unhook). When I got rescued, my teammate took a hit for me, as the Trapper was already back at the hook. The Trapper ignored them (even as he had injured them) and went immediately back after me. After another chase, they downed me again, and I hit them with DS. They continued to chase me, even as I inadvertantly went past fellow survivors working on a generator, which he didn't bother to chase them off of. He downed me again, eventually, and we repeated the cycle. Hooked, somewhat camped, my rescuer took a protection hit, and they ignored them to go after me again. Once I was downed for the last time and hooked for my death hook, the last gen popped and the other three escaped. That was, IMO, a classic example of "tunneling" -- this Trapper ignored everything else -- the people he passed by working on gens (even as they were getting done in his face), other injured survivors, etc. -- to focus solely on eliminating me from the game, even at the cost of the other three people escaping easily.

    I'm on console, so I messaged this Trapper (who was a yellow rank, IIRC) to offer advice that playing that killer in that way (he didn't even set up traps in a territory to defend, but crossed all over the Temple map -- a large map at that -- in order to exclusively chase me) wasn't ideal. His response was that they didn't play to "win", but to make other people miserable that they went against, which to me, explained pretty well why they fit the definition of "tunneler" so well in that instance.

    FWIW, I think tunneling is an overused term. Scott Jund recently made a video talking about how some issues that happen in-game are the fault of your teammates and not the killer -- it's a good take for anyone who wants to check it out.