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(Showing their true colors)
I would like this week out about this it's so upsetting that a game that once was fun is turning into too much toxicity even the developing team.
I get it if someone keeps asking over the years about the color blind aspect that they would love to have you shouldn't be rude to the people who love your game and it took a gaming CEO to speak out about the matter and after that they eventually apologize for the incident it's pretty unacceptable in my opinion and rude for the color blind community.
I get it that they need to make money to be able to do things but they have enough time on their hands to create story lines, killers and cosmetics but yet they never seem to have the time to put an extra work in the game that they so call having love for it in my eyes they seem to care more about profit than the love and support from their fans.
These are only my opinion but I would love for the community to give their opinion on the matter even if they see this and the gaining developers decide to take this down I will repost this again the community has the right to speak out and have a voice on such matters and therefore we have the right to voice our opinion on the game that we love such as the developers love this game.
Thank you survivors and killers of the fog for your time and if I have to make another account if they ban this one for me voicing my opinion then therefore I will they cannot block out our opinions no more.
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Great. Just another thing to keep me away from playing this game.
I’m gonna stop caring about what’s gonna happen in this game. I wouldn’t expect much from these devs. I suspect it’ll be bad like hud change and infested with lots of bugs that’ll never be fixed.
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True that.
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Wonder how long it will be before this thread gets deleted?
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Me to 😂
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I actually found it quite disgusting, regardless of wether or not someone was repeatedly asking the question. The simple fact he responded in this way is so unprofessional. I've seen people saying 'Oh but he was on his personal stream, he didn't want to be bothered about work questions' and to that I say that is not an excuse. He could have simply said 'We have something in the works but we can't openly discuss it yet'. Simple answer, and it gives people who requested it some hope something is happening. But the fact that BHVR don't even issue an apology beyond the half-baked 'Well we didn't want to reveal it but because we just got crapped on from a Disability Charity CEO we have to now' shows to me they wouldn't have said a word otherwise. He represents the company at all times, not just when he's on work hours, and to have this attitude reflects really bad on the overall company, as we are now seeing.
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His response was disrespectful, inappropriate and insensitive. I hope this is a lesson learned for him as well as BHVR.
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Or he could've just kept quite. He should've kept his mouth shut.
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We all take breaks sometimes but we miss the old days of this game wasn't to toxic and we all share so many good memories.
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Lets just hold game devs to impossible standards while badgering them the whole time with questions they can't answer or they can get fired, fined, or sued, and expect them to be happy seeing you ask it for the 18th time
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Yep. I've worked in Customer Service for 10 years of my life, and the one thing we always have drilled into our heads is 'No matter where you are, or what you are doing, you are always representing the company'. If I did what he did on a stream, I'd have been sacked the next day because regardless of wether or not he or the entire company share this view, this made the entire company look bad, not just him, and that's a huge no no since higher ups have to deal with the backlash, and the last thing investors of the company need is bad PR
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I was talking about less toxicity and yes they need the color blind added to the game
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Isn't it a good thing they revealed that colourblind modes are being added into the game then?
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This was disused at nozium this week. More information is out about it. Maybe you go find it.
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"Please implement colorblind mode"
Yeah that is an IMPOSSIBLE standard
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They literally straight up said that they had it in the works and were planning on doing it but it's funny that they say that right after they got criticized by a gaming company CEO feels like they're lying about it that's what I feel like.
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please break your nda and risk your job to ease my curiosity for features to assist colorblind people
its an impossible standard to expect someone to want to risk their job 24/7 to answer your questions that borderline can break your nda
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I understand your response and agree that today things have gotten a bit out of hand. But requesting a colorblind mode is far from an insulting request from a developer. I don't doubt that there may have been people who were mean when requesting this but honestly like all things with a majority of game developers they lack communication. I doubt colorblind mode was a recent request. These people are asking for it because they enjoy their game not dissing on their developing. A simple "We're working towards implemeting it and will update when we're closer to completion" would have been an easy painless response. Hell if it was his personal stream he could have said he won't be answering any development related questions.
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"I can't tell you what we are currently working on, please be patient" or "I am not the guy to ask about that, sorry"
This guy is not a victim
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*person 1 being is annoying to person 2
*person 2 gives annoyed answer back
*person one and the rest of the community
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Im sure what he wanted to say is that it was planned or in the works or going to be ready sooner rather than later, but as they are a dev under a NDA he risks his job giving answers of anything close to this, and being badgered about it is probably the last think he wants when he knows any answer he would give that would ease tensions can be held above his head by his NDA
A simple "We're working towards implemeting it and will update when we're closer to completion" could be seen as a breach of contract and easily have him lose his job or worse
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I really hope no one lost their job because of this
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"Please add color blindness"
"Stop bothering us about it"
:/
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"please give information that can break a legally binding document"
"tries his best to work around it while still miffed that someone asked over and over"
"how dare you sound miffed while giving me some information that I wanted that you might get fired for giving too much information on"
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I've been watching his streams for a while and for multiple dev questions he's responded, "he doesn't know" or "You guys know I'm not allowed to answer a question like that", but instead he just said "I'm tired of you people asking about it". He chose to be rude about people with colorblindness.
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This ^
He was just mildly annoyed at the question being repeated at him, as he (as far as I remember) doesn't have control over the colourblind mode and how it's made.
Imagine being spammed a question you have no control over, so the answer would always be "no". Even if he does have some info about it, it's similar to why otz has an FAQ to stop people from asking the same question he's repeated 1000 times. It gets tiring.
More importantly, he didn't even directly insult or diminish colourblind players, he was just annoyed that he's been asked it a ton. I lurk in his streams, he most certainly doesn't have a grudge against colourblind players.
This whole situation has been completely blown out of proportion when it wasn't even a situation in the first place.
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If I asked you the same question 20 times would I expect you to give the same jolly answer over and over or would I expect you snap around the 4th time I asked it, now do this every time you stream which he enjoys doing on a consistent basis in his free time
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People have spammed his chat asking for buffs and nerfs and he still gave the "Idk" or "I'm not allowed to say response", like I said he chose to be rude about colorblindness.
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The thing that concerns me is, there's no such thing as an "isolated incident". If he felt comfortable and confident enough to say this in a Twitch stream, basic iceberg theory would mean he's like this about other physical disabilities, or lgbtq folk, or BIPOC. His dismissive and callous perspective is probably not contained to colorblind mode, but probably also someone who has hearing impairment asking for an on-screen heartbeat indicator. Or people asking for representation in game so they can enthusiastically recommend it to their friends and family who accept them and are excited to see themselves in a game. The fact that this community's more toxic elements have gone from saying he's bad at his job and should be let go to defending him against the people saying his self-identification on his personal Twitch as a Behavior employee means he's acting as a representative and should comport himself accordingly is... predictable and disappointing, would be the two emotions that come to mind.
He looked to boost his personal Twitch by using the clout of his employer. That comes with accountability from the public, because you're always, at least partially, acting as an employee. I would NEVER identify who my employer is on any social media for that very reason.
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I mean, look at their new HUD in development. It was terrible 🤣 as much as its be nice to get a system that caters to colourblind people and what not. We'll still see 2 new characters, a new map and new cosmetics before they get around to caring enough to bother.
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I think he chose to be rude to that one person not chose to be rude to an entire community of people
sure people in general have spammed him but it sounded like from his response that one person spammed him over and over during that stream asking the same question which was probably answered a few times already
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The correct response is "I am unable to answer this question, as this is not a part of the game I work on." The worst answer is "I'm getting bored of people complaining about colorblind issues." There are right ways and wrong ways to give a non-answer. His response was absolutely the wrong way.
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There have been multiple threads about this and I don't think any have been deleted.
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He's timed people out or just ignored them when people spammed him, like after the ruin change it was 100x worse, and that was the last time I recalled him giving dismissive or rude but valid responses. Why shouldn't this one spammer been given the "idk" or "I can't answer that" response?
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We aren't complaining about BHVR not adding accessibility, we're complaining that people seem to thing almo outright insulted and attacked colourblind people which didn't happen.
It's amazing that we're getting colourblind options now, I love it. I also agree that it should've been added in ages ago.
People are just spreading hate for the sole reason to spread hate.
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That's what is really messed up is that instead of being able to tell people something developers are constricted from saying due to NDA they don't even give them a cliche generic line to respond to imply that they can't say anything about it like when police say "we can't comment on an ongoing investigation"
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Mine was locked, and I got nuked in Behavior's Twitch for asking if there would be an official statement from the company about his conduct.
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It's a bit unfair howalmo is getting thrown under the bus.
If you go on a trip with a loved one, and that person keeps asking the same question, over and over again you'll eventually lose patience. Besides he's 1 dev amongst Zeus knows how many, and he may not even have the power or knowledge to answer.
Now.... Yes he streams and knows people will be like this, but maybe he does it to improve dev / player communication, that doesn't mean he should get questioned a million times about the same thing.
Even if you are still adament it was a mistake to put it like that, it's not worth all this trouble. Mistakes can happen, no point on throwing the guy in the fire.
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Imo a lot of fuss about nothing.
Colorblind options should be a thing ofcourse. And it's good they are coming
But to come out and say Almo hates colorblind people cause he made one annoyed remark is just rediculous.
These kind of overblown reactions is why they don't tell us things in the first place.
It's kinda scary how saying something out of annoyance nowadays make you a horrible person that hates disabled people and probably kicks puppies too.
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Do these "discussion" threads serve any purpose at this point except vindictiveness?
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It was his free time, at his home streaming just because he wanted to, he wasn't streaming on dbd official channel but his own private channel.
Replying to the same question a million times outside your work time would annoy any single human being
The hate towards 1 single dev that was born after a video made by some braindead youtuber is disgusting.
Almo is not responsible for every issue the game has and the fact that now he's been judged just because he asked to stop repeating always the same question is something that would've been possible just with this whiny community.
I would love to see half of the community being asked the same question about their job when they're at home trying to relax yet replying in the same way he did
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He could have ignored it. There are no excuses for his behavior.
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The problem is that he is a part of the company, he is speaking about something pertaining to the company, and his response definitely makes the company look worse. The fact that he was doing a personal stream or something doesn't change that because he is still speaking as a mouthpiece of the company, even if he is not THE mouthpiece of the company. It'd be one thing if what he said was taken out of context or twisted to say something it's not trying to say. This is taking what was said word for word and allowing people to judge it for what it is.
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yay, outrage...
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They did not take what he said out of context. They posted the full response he gave in its entirety and left nothing out (as far as I am aware). So we don't agree.
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He chose to bolster his Twitch profile by identifying himself as a Dev at Behavior. If he took efforts to maintain a private account where he didn't identify himself as an employee, THEN you'd be correct.
And, as I said in my own post on the subject, there's basic iceberg theory at play here. These are folks who just want basic access. Not even representation which is its own can of worms- basic access. How would he react if a member of the deaf community said they wanted an on-screen heartbeat indicator?
The way the toxic elements of the DBD community would dump on Almo for all his blisteringly awful ideas and thoughts on DBD gameplay up to this point, all of a sudden rallying around him because he was dismissive of a conversation about disability access... woof those certainly are some hot takes.
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Not to me.
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Knowing this community love of spamming same shiet over and over again, i can't blame this dev for getting annoyed because of it.
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Meanwhile, I am disheartened by the lack of empathy in the response that let to all this.
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As a person that has seen how people lay a finger at Ethan's, I feel really bad for him but since it's work related you should answer politely. He might be in his spare time but he's representing BHVR's. It's not like he had a car accident and yelled at other driver, he was playing and streaming a game that he's working into and he's representing.
It's underestandable that he got angry but that doesn't excuse him. As I say, I understand the pressure Ethan is going through and the community not helping but there are different ways... you could say "please, stop asking me question related to colorblind mode since I am not responsible of that" or "I am in my spare time and I know you are all excited to know if something new is going out but could you please calm down? I am having a few rough days", which yes that could be considered rude for some but he's just saying that he's under a lot of pressure and thar would make people say "Yes, we are being pushy with a guy that doesn't have a voice on what we are asking".
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I am viewing the statement as though it were made by a dev on a personal stream in their off-time.
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