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This idiot on the internet
This idiot on the internet believed that chara from undertale could defeat the entity from dbd.
Now I'm a lot for both games but that is just complete stupidity, he thinks chara could one shot the entity? Nah.
What are your opinions on this?
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Chara would EASILY become a killer. You can't just kill the entity with a knife ❤️🔪
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It absolutely depends on the writer. Both have world shattering Eldritch properties about them. The entity can theoretically keep putting Chara in an endless gamut until she dies, but Chara can keep reloading fueled by determination for the same length.
I imagine the entity doesn't necessarily grow in power and knowledge as time progresses, wheras Chara absolutely will keep learning and leveling. (Fundamental difference between horror antagonist versus RPG protagonist really.) So I can see Chara winning, assuming the entity is something that can be found and physically killed in some way shape or form. If it doesn't have a physically accessible or inurable form then nobody really 'wins' unless the entity gets bored of Chara and does some eldritch stuff to stasis her eternally. (Because once she dies, reload time.)
If it can be killed and if it can be accessed through mortal means Chara would one-shot it, not because she's super strong, but because as defined in her universe that's kind of her power. One shotting things.
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I mean, I don't think that the Entity doesn't learn.
Look at Coldwind vs Hawkins. It's clearly become better at copying things from memories.
Real question is, how do the Entity and the MindFlayer interact?
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What about the dbd mobile quote for the entity, its stated he is timeless and spaceless, so in theory he can destroy the save points since the save points use time.
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Chara is too much of a pacifist to fare well in The Entity's realm. If we're gonna talk theoretical RPG heroes that would actually squash The Entity...my vote is on Class VII.
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This is Chara we're talking about, not Frisk. Chara is absolutely not a pacifist
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Oh right. I played Undertale many years ago and forgot about that.
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Class VII?
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The heroes from Trails of Cold Steel. (Note: Part of the best RPG series ever created).
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How powerful are they?
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Entity can't control Michael, entity is weak af, it can create a mirror dimension and affect people but that's it, its even trying to make survivors killers but can't even do that properly
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Tbh it's been a while since I had my last dose of Undertale lore but from what I remember, Chara wasn't a bad person originally. They grew evil from watching and living trough player's actions during genocide run twisting their personality making them as evil of a person as the player was in that run.
In the pacifist run, the memories that help you win come from Chara, meaning that in that run they give you the final push that helps you win as your good actions druing the pacifist run help them to grow into a good person as well.
I might be reaching with that (as I said it was a while) but I just wanted to point out that many people got the bad impression of who Chara really was in Undertale, they changed with players choices as they were witnessing everything the player did.
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That's not what happened in the game. Chara even in the good run is evil. They try to poison the king demon for fun. They would've wiped out humanity if the monster (forgot his name) didn't stop him and then died with him.
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I won't go deep into this since it would take me literally hours until I could properly rewrite all of the lore and it's interpretations. What I wrote is what happened in the game from what I remember.
The backstory of Chara that you pointed out is far more complex then the little you wrote based off the intro cutsecene if I remember correctly. But as most of the Undertale playerbase missed a lot about Chara I'm not suprised with objections to my statement.
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That's not based off the intro. It's based off the videos and info dumps you get during the good end.
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Ahh yes, my mistake, it was a while. Anyway if I had anything to say to it, the poisoning was a mistake (Chara and Asriel both mistook buttercups in the recipe for buttercup flowers insted of cups of butter), they never wanted to poison their dad.
And the idea that Chara wanted to wipe out the humanity wasn't even ever stated nor hinted if I remember correctly. Chara actually just wanted to break the barrier and let monster be free. He wanted Asriel to defend himself when attacked by the humans, a natural thing to do when you're beiing murdered.
A memory of this segment is more shallow I admit, I'm sure there was more behind it overall but I won't go re-read all of Undertales lore for the sake of this discussion.
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"Now atttt's a knoife!"
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First we must ask can Chara beat the Killers,if she can or cannot does not matter because the Entity does not a have a Form to attack so shes useless
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Well considering that the entity is literally an old one from the dawn of time. It may be a tad hard for them.
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They've killed demons, gods, dieties, and beings from other dimensions.
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But have they killed 4 survivors in one game?
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Not yet. But I have faith in them.
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We need to keep an eye on those upstarts so they can be given the proper ruin treatment once it happens. Should they be allowed to advance the entire multiverse could be at stake.
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It could just send Chara to the Void
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