Playing Nurse Wrong? Or is she just this broken?
So with the Nurse projected to be in part of the new tome; I decided to spend the week learning how to play her... currently I run the standard build Infectious/Sloppy/PGTW/BBQ with double recharge addons but i've come across a few issues and i'm not sure if i'm just doing something wrong.
1) Blinking randomly stops working and gives an infinite audio bug loop that forces you to let go of M2 and wait a few seconds before being able to use it again.
2) After blinking i'm not able to immediately M1 at times and I have to wait a second before M1'ing again.
3) When attempting to blink up (knowing its an empty space above me) sometimes she just blinks straight.
4) When attempting to blink through an object; even though I know im holding it long enough (ie a pallet or wall).. sometimes it just refuses to blink through it and I end up blinking right into the wall/pallet.
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That sounds just like the nurse experience to me. This bugs will not be fixed, btw
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1. Very old bug been in the game for like? Maybe since the rework? Not 100% sure but maybe older.
2. Very old bug as well.
3. No blinking zones because nurse doesn't have enough bugs.
4. And another bug that is still in the game for nurse!!.
Never saw those coming.
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How they can just put a severely broken killer into the tome and call it a day then?
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There's also places where the Nurse can't even blink onto, for example on Plague's map there's a place where she can't blink in the central area. Basically if you play Nurse, welcome to bug hell.
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1) long known bug, still not fixed as you can see
2) another bug and i think this one is the most game breaking for nurse because it happens super randomly
3) you just missed or the place is bugged, areas being bugged for blinks are the second biggest problem of nurse
4) another bug related to bugged places, some areas just dont allow you to go through and its known but devs didnt do anything about it for years
to summarize, just dont play her
without double cooldown addos survivor can counter you by just running straight
long range blinks are super unrealiable because nurse leaves a trail that basically tells surivors where exactly she is going
and most of her addons are super bad
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Yeah that's normal Nurse bugs. Been here since her rework and show no signs of getting fixed.
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That's rather disheartening.. she's really fun to play once you get the hang of her but constantly losing momentum in a match because of all of these random bugs makes it difficult to want to continue.
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We've tried dude. They literally clam up and hide anytime we bring up nurse's massive list of bugs.
The common theory has been that they are aware; and have even tried- but honestly it's just above their ability and too difficult to fix. There is a suspicion it's because they just fubared her code so much a while ago.
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The devs know about all of these since the nurse gutting PTB but don't care.
They'd rather the nurse be dead and buried then to actually have to deal with her anymore.
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It just doesn't make sense as to why they would promote it in the tome. Like this guy just reported the issue where blink randomly stops working.. I havent experienced it this bad but damn.
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Because they don’t give a $#!?
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My experience ever since the last nurse change:
- Blink directly on a survivor and swing for my guaranteed hit only to hear the sound of my weapon smacking a bush that is literally nowhere in sight and having to watch the survivor continue on unscathed just before I go into my fatigue and inevitably die a little bit more inside.
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@MandyTalk Any idea whats going on with the Nurse dilemma? Especially with the tome being solely focused on Nurse.. one would think this should be a priority.
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Sounds about right. You are playing it wrong and she is broken. Both statements are correct.
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Nurse main here with 1.5k hours. I can answer these:
1) Nurse bug, happens pretty rarely, but it seems to happen in certain spots on some maps. Has been happening much less to me on the reworked maps so it might be starting to go away.
2) Classic bug, happens all the time. You eventually learn how to detect it quickly to click m1 again.
3) When you want to blink down or up you need to look way far down and up. Even when going straight, in order to avoid going down, you will often look up a bit to avoid going down. Practice with the addon that shows your blink location to get a feel for it but don't rely on it too much.
4) This happens to me sometimes, the problem here is that if you do something that would blink you into the wall you don't go anywhere, you need to make sure you are fully onto the other side. You might find this happens a lot if a survivor is camping a pallet or just around a wall. You eventually learn how to avoid this with practice.
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First two are bugs.
Last two are inexperience.
Ofc they have. But like a year ago it goes ignored.
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When the blink spams you need to spam M1 and it SOMETIMES fixes it. Nurse is a buggy mess and it’s not talked about because very few play her often. The next tome is going to bring a flurry of threads about how broken Nurse is.
I started learning her a few weeks ago and it pays off. I only run corrupt for slowdown now and do great most of the time. Even with her bugs and double cooldown she is oppressive.
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1 is relatively rare, 3 and 4 can be played around by memorizing all the nonsense collisions over a couple of hundreds of hours of playing nurse, but 2 is unbearable and has no counters.
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Just the Nurse experience. They never fixed her bugs that have long been in the game, even when they nerfed her.
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It's not quite correct to call it "inexperience".
The fact that you know that 12-15m of 2nd floor balcony close to outside ladder on Ormond's main building are a dead zone doesn't negate the fact that it's a collision bug.
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She is just broken, a mess of bugs, the only thing you can do to solve those problems is wait until the devs decide to fix her...
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Exactly.. I know what i'm doing and if im on the Saloon standing on the bottom floor outside and look straight up to blink on the balcony; or by the gallows trying to blink straight up to the upper deck with the gen. It refuses to blink up.
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Good #########*ing luck to blink on the balcony in haddonfield through the house, because you will most likely not hit it.
I don't think the devs will every make her more beginner friendly, because she is nearly unbeatable in the right hands, but utter trash* for a beginner with those bugs.
They could give her more blink charges, but then the good nurses would be even worse to play against.
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Been playing since launch, and I THINK this is what’s been happening, just from my experience:
1 is not rare, it happens very consistently depending on the servers you connect to. If there is a SMIDGE of delay it seems to freak out and not know what to do between blinks (or not know where you’re supposed to be), causing the second blink to be locked. I think this is also the cause of 2, but I’ve never noticed that one happen to me at all.
3 is usually because your blink destination is inside of an object or just too skinny for the game to properly place you there. Other times, what I believe causes some levels to be unblinkable, the next level’s floor has collision that’s exaggerated too far upwards for the Nurse to not get ‘stuck’ inside of it according to the engine’s physics.
4 is a problem with an object’s collision zone being so exaggerated that it believes teleporting on the other side is the same as teleporting inside of it, making you blink in place as to not trap you; The object actually takes up a larger space than visible due to bad collision, causing you to believe it’s a bug when it’s actually just doing a good job of keeping you from getting stuck. This happens less with the reworked maps because of collision being fine-tuned (sometimes) and everything being less thicc in general.
Anyways, none of that matters now cause they changed your blinks to be blue instead of the regular tan color so rofl
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Regarding #3 about blinking directly up. Pretend that in front of you there is a 180 degree cone where 0 is looking directly down and 180 is looking directly up. I've found that if you try to blink facing 180 you go no where so I've trained myself to blink at a 170 pitch instead. Otherwise most of the time you just end up sitting in the same spot.
I'm almost certain these are addon related because this one specifically at the start of the video I don't encounter but I don't use addons at all on Nurse. I remember one of the movement speed addons caused something similar to this on the PTB so I imagine it's related to the type of addons in the clip.
Either way yeah Nurse is buggy af I main her and sometimes she's hard to play
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Here I can tell you everything I know about nurse
1 tracking perks are your best friend
Especially anything with auras
2 good you dont want to use any addons that affect your blink because that affects your memory of her blinks
if you are gonna use any addons
You want fatigue time, blink recovery speed and maybe plaid flannel to learn here the blink range caps at
3 any walls that lead to the outside of the map you can't go through even if there is playable area just on the other side
4 if your blink doesn't meet the required distance to get through it it will send you shorter that what you charged for
Here I'll make a visual example you are o objusts are ! And your current blink range is y
O. !!!!!! Y. you can go through it
O. !!!!!!!y!!! You will be sent back to here
O. Y!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 if your not feeling it take a game to practice your blinks
6 if you think someone is going to back into you but you can't see them blink to where you last saw them because if you are close enough you can use your second blink to catch up and possibly hit them and if they back into you hit them this will require quick reactions but is possible that's about all I can tell you good luck from one nurse player to another
And there are bugs with nurse like the sound loop one some objects have a bigger collision than that appear sometimes can't blink after blinking blinking know why
Edit this is a copy from my clipboard so if something dosent make sense ingore it
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Knowing where you can blink and where you can't blink are apart of learning Nurse. Being that dead zones have always existed and that the Devs are incompetent when it comes to finding and fixing them.
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So I was able to speak with one of the Devs and they said that they are aware of the Blink/Audio issue; but they haven't been able to reproduce the bug? I just don't see how that's possible.
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Current patch shadowfixed a bunch of nurse collision bugs, which (I think) nobody even dared to hope for. Both 2nd floor ormond deadzones are no more; haystack near combine tile became blinkable as well.
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All I can say is...welcome to Nurse!
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What patch? I don't see a 4.5.1 release. The Ormond 2nd floor balcony deadzone is definitely still there.
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I KYF tested it 7-10 minutes ago from all the angles that came to my mind; both for glitched corner zone and fully-dead-zone balcony near outside ladder.
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She is more bugged than normal.
It's nearly impossible to hit survivors if they move around you because their hitboxes while sure, are not where they should be, are still wonky as hell so you whiff like mad.
ALso her blinks are getting "stuck"
I dunno what they did but she is terrible right now.
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I see. My testing was on the previous version, 4.4.2. Glad they fixed it.
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Me too, me too)
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They broke something in this new update.
She is borderline unplayable right now. Attacks going right through survivors, blinks not working at all, terrain vacuuming you up..... It's awful. Like, in her current state, it's like playing with one arm tied behind your back so I would just wait until an update hits or something.
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1) known bug. Try waiting about 7 seconds before blinking again.
2) That is the M1 bug. It's an issue with Dedicated Servers and how they interact with her power.
3) Yep. Common bug.
4) Yuppers. Another common issue, especially on maps like Autohaven where the hitboxes are screwed up.
Yeah, she barely works. If it wasn't Nurse, they'd be fixed ages ago.
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Those have to do with the server issues everyone is having.
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The brown add-on that shows you where you are blinking helps me with this kind of issue
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All the bugs you described are part of the nurse experience, don’t worry tho she’s still awesome and you’ll wreck people with her even with those bugs.
isn’t the ground so damn beautiful in this game too, right ?
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Oh yeah I was. I went from Rank 20 to rank 8 with only 2 matches that had an escape; both of which occurred due to bugs.
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Another soon to become Nurse main, I’m glad you are enjoying it she’s so much fun.
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I think the devs see these bugs as part of the nerf Nurse should have. And that is why they ignore them and let them be.
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she's just that broken.
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