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What killer do you think is the most sadistic?
Contrary to my last discussion on mercy, which killer do you feel like would be the most likely to drag out your death & enjoy it? Once again, you can use lore to sway your decision but I'd prefer opinions.
Lore wise, Doctor is the obvious choice. Opinion wise, I'd say Pyramid Head, Deathslinger & Frank. There's a couple other killers I also think are sadistic, but for the sake of time, I'm just going to choose 3.
Pyramid Head - His mori is brutal & it's even mentioned in his description that he's sadistic. No doubt he doesn't mind giving out his "punishment".
Deathslinger - You cannot tell me he doesn't enjoy reeling in his victims.
Frank - Think of death by a thousand cuts because I feel like he'd do something like that.
What do you guys think?
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Pyramid Head is literally a manifestation of anger, desire for punishment and sexual depravity (in particular hidden homoerotic desires though this isnt really expanded on within the game much), it makes more sense lore wise for him to drag out your death. Making it as painful, unenjoyable and non consensual as possible for sure.
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The difference between Pyramid Head and the Doctor is Pyramid Head was created out of guilt and desire from James' tormented mind, whereas Doctor was dedicated to torturing individuals since he began working as a doctor. He had no guilt or remorse for anything he did and probably saw no point in pretending to have any if he ever got caught. Even in his tome background, after his crimes are discovered he continues to torture unwilling people and we see him become the Doctor we have now in the game.
While I agree that Pyramid Head was sadistic, the Doctor was far worse and wasn't created out of guilt or desire for punishment, he was created from evil and the entity helped amplify that.
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I feel like you can compare p head to a robot since he isn't really a human, but just the manifestation of guilt and desire.
The doctor is just a madman who likes torturing people, and this was before the entity amplified his traits.
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Pyramid Head was born from guilt and desire, while Doctor just woke up one morning and said "I'm going to torture people!". Not denying that PH is sadistic, but Doctor did everything because he wanted to. He's a really evil person.
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Doctor or Freddy I would think.
The Doctor is pretty well explained by everyone else here, so I won't belabor it further.
Freddy is a demon born of the soul of a child murderer. I am not real familiar with reboot Freddy, Robert Englund was my Freddy, and always will be, but unless they made some wild departures from the source material, Freddy tortured children and threw the remains in the boiler, until he was caught and fed to it as well. His rage, and desire for blood of Innocents lead to him becoming the dream demon we know and fear. The only other thing I feel adds to my argument here is watch Nightmare on Elm street 3. That's sadism.
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The clown sucks fingers #########.
The Doctor laughs.
The witch eats his heart.
Deathslinger kicks them yeah is very rude XD.
Ghostface looks like he enjoy it and mocks take it a photo.
And the hit that bubba gives them in the head before use the chainsaw uff XD.
Also how huntress throws the axe in their face is very sadistic for me.
The nurse strokes their faces she looks like her enjoy too.
For me the most sadistic is the witch because the clown is rather sick XD
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Just reading ghost face's backstory tells me he's pretty sadistic. Stalking his enemies before killing them and whatnot.
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In the remake, they make Freddy out to be more of a pedophile rather than a child murderer. He's also a lot more sadistic than in the original movies, here's a clip to show you (watch till the end): https://youtu.be/rvpFERo3ZnA?t=150 (age-restricted so I couldn't put it in as media).
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Yup, still the sadistic terror master.
Gotta think he's one of the few killers that totally agrees and likes the way the entity does things, no manipulation required.
Fun clip, still think Englund was better, and the face looks weird to me, but I can't put my finger on what exactly makes it look off. I spent 5 Halloweens staring at Freddy's face in the mirror (RPHH for life!) so I'm really particular about it.
Also was a bit disappointed he got the setup and didn't deliver the best freddy line. "This, is God"
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The clown and Freddy definitely, both abuse their victims physically and mentally before giving them their end, The Clown kidnapped young people and children (I think) and took them to his caravan (I think he sexually raped his victims before killing them) and Freddy is the most sadistic since he enjoyed hurting and abusing children and then killing them.
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It’s a tie between Doc and Amanda. Maybe Ghostface as well since his Mori is him talking a selfie with the corpse
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The hag is going around eating people's livers!
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Clown cuts off people's fingers mid-match just to taste them and then wear them on a keyring. Freddy is a pedophile. Doctor tortures the ever-loving hell out of people. I'd say those three probably top the charts IMO.
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Freddy. Hes a pedo. And he came back from the grave to punishment the children he molested because their parents rightfully killed him. What an ahole lol.
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Michael Myers. He is literally the manifestation of evil. He can sit in a sanitarium with inhuman patience for decades waiting for the right time to escape and go on a Halloween night murder spree. Michael is not choosy with whom he kills. Men, women, teenagers, children, animals.......he's killed them all at some point. How do we know Michael takes pleasure out of what he does? Look at how he has displayed some of his victims;
This is clearly a man who takes pleasure in his murders.
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It's heavily implied that he kidnapped children when it says "Men, women, young, old, he didn't care. The essence of a good collection is in the variety, in the memories and stories they evoke."
He's like Bubba in a way, both of them don't discriminate and will take any skin/finger that satisfies them.
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Amanda is debatable as..
In Saw 3, we see her start spiriling out of control at the end, all of the murders she had carried out had driven her to the point of no return and her guilt got the best of her.
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Doctor and Clown.
They both see the survivors for what they are, unlike Deathslinger who sees the survivors as the people who massively wronged him.
Bubba has the whole 'trying to protect his family' bit going, hasn't he?
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You're right about Bubba, in his backstory it mentions that he kills because he's scared that his family will disown him. He just wants to keep his family safe and will do anything to protect them.
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Definitely Doc and Clown. They live to make others suffer.
Wasn't Oni super brutal and petty too? Can't quite remember.
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For lore, Doctor and Clown. As others have stated, Doctor experimented on his victims, and Clown sexually abused his victims before killing them. I'd probably say Freddy next, because it is Freddy.
I think Pyramid Head and Ghostface are up there too though. Ghostie really enjoyed the thrill of the hunt.
I would put Myers higher as well, as he is supposed to be evil incarnate and all, but in the first two movies (and the og book), while it does talk about how he gets pleasure out of murder, Michael is also kinda dumb, and at least tends to make the actual stabby stabby murder bits quick. Compare that to Doctor and Clown, who seem to wear you down in every way until your demise, PH who was literally created for this, or Freddy who you could never escape, and I just think he's a weak contender. (He do still be best boi though.)
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Clown and Doctor, both their backstories state they enjoy torturing people, both until their victims are drained of their strength and will and in the case of Clown it does gives some vibes of being sexual incited torture...
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Which killer sees the survivors as who they are and who doesn't. And who has other motives?
Sees someone else for all we know:
Wraith (for all we know)
Nurse (possibly)
Huntress (potentially)
Oni (likely sees them as the farmers and lords that insulted him)
Deathslinger (sees them as Bayshore, the warden and others who wronged him)
Twins (potentially. Might go into the second category as well)
Kills to survive/protect someone:
Trapper (arguably)
Hillbilly
Hag (for all we know)
Bubba
Plague
Blight (The Entity supplies him with serum in exchange, iirc)
Kills for killing's sake and sees the survivors as what they are:
Michael
Doctor
Freddy
Pig
Clown
Legion
Ghostface
Other:
Spirit
Demo
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Unless Myers actively starts slurping on fingers, that ain't pleasure. :P
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Of course it is. You don't have to suck fingers to derive pleasure from killing. Unless you think doing stuff like making a Jack O Lantern out of someone's head was an act of boredom lol. Michael even enjoys toying with his victims at times before killing them. Remember the ghost sheet stunt he pulled in the original?
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That's just him being efficient. It ain't pleasure unless it's tasty. :P
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Efficient? They're already dead lol. Decorating the corpses is purely a pleasure aspect.
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But does he bring his victims back to life just to continue hurting them? And does he offer himself as a test subject?
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He has not got the power to bring them back to life. Offer himself as a test subject to whom?
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i'd say Pyramid Head, Doctor, or Clown
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Pyramid Head, Doc and Clown
I wouldn't say deathslinger as a while ago someone put something on this forum called "Entity Touched Eyes" which basically meant that any killers with the white glow in their eyes (i.e. DS, spirit, wraith, billy (doc doesn't count as his eyes are lit up by electricity)) were all killers who were wronged by someone in the past. They pointed out that maybe the entity tricks those killers into seeing all survivors as that person who wronged them, giving them a motive to kill, since most of the all the killers with the "eyes" never killed anyone intentionally. So with deathslinger laughing after hitting a survivor and his brutal Mori could just be his reaction to catching Bayshore after being wronged by him in his life. His laugh being a "I finally got you".
Compared to Clown's laugh which is more malicious as he just kills people cause it is interesting to him, seeing their lifeless body gives him some kind of joy and collecting their fingers as trophies. His laugh is a more of a "you can't escape" as he's just caught you so he can fulfil his perverted intentions.
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Hermy just woke up one day and said ######### it lets torture people
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Doctor and Freddy are the most sadistic in the sense that they enjoy the physical and mental torture more than the killing.
Ghostface and Myers take second place just because they are more focused on the kill, but they still score pretty high on the sadism meter
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Herman woke up and chose violence
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i'm going to exclude licensed killers for obvious reasons, so Trapper is easily at the top.
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Never heard of the concept "Entity Touched Eyes", thank you for sharing! Never thought of that before.
Though I will say, they could still be considered sadistic given the fact that they are killing the people who "wronged them", but you never know.
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Either Michael, doctor, or pyramid head for me.
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Sadistic is gonna need the killer to get a bit of jollies off to killing..PH sadily is more akin to doing his job then anything else. Even how he moves implies "welp,off to work I guess"...Hell even how he got brought in implies he is like "Welp, gotta go kill people..Off I go to the grind"
Freddy is right up there..Like no questions asked he is a diddler who came back from the dead to punish the kids for snitching on him (In the new movie) Or the Older Freddy just murder kids for shits and giggles.
The Clown is a seral killer..But,It seems to be more driven by insanity then anything..I mean he collects fingers and feathers cause they are "real ones"....He is one I would argue sending to a mental hospital might of ended his madness right then and there.
The Doctor is on max blast as being like the one true douchebag of Douchebags. So, much so I am assuming unlike the other killers who have been slightly twisted by their time in the fog or because their body was destroy rebuilt. I am 80% sure the helmet on the doctor's head is a leash to keep him in check because If he got his hands on someone and the entity did not need his hope feast..They would be brain dead.
The ghostface get off on It in the lore..So,he is a Seral Killer..But, he seems to more get a boner off breaking the law and the thrill of the cat and mouse then anything else. His sadism is up there but he not a total Dbag. I mean he is basically hand crafting your death for you..You can feel special.
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Wraith is just angry
Trappers just doing his job
Hillbilly is just angry he can't watch tv and has to do this instead
Nurse has just had her sanity snap
Huntress is just defending her home
Myers is just Myers
Hag is mad that people took her skin
Doctor is sadistic because thats all he does is torture survivors in and out of his lore
Bubba just don't want to be repremanded
Freddy is just sadistic
Pig is just sadistic
The legion are just sadistic
Spirit is just angry
Clown is sadistic
Plague is just doing her worship
Ghostface is just doing it so he can be in the news
Demogorgon is just hungry
Oni is just angry
Deathslinger wants revenge
Phead is just doing his 9-5 as the embodiment of something
Blight is just having a bad trip
Twins are just doing what they do which is scavenge and move on to the next trial
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Ghostface. He's the only killer who enjoys being in the entities realm. He lives to kill and finds enjoyment from it and I'm pretty sure he willingly allowed himself to be injected with Blight serum as well wheras the other killers were merely test subjects.
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Wes Craven I believe originally made Freddy a pedo too.
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Whatever killer is being played by a streamer lol.
They tend to be hella toxic. Except maybe some of the bigger known ones that have an actual following.
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Yeah I honestly don't understand why some streamers decide to put their toxicity & childishness on the internet for everyone else to see.
Like.. is that what you want to be known for?
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Some people like to watch someone call other people dumb and stupid and curse them out so they can feel better about themselves when they bandwagon onto the "Yeah, screw that guy" motive.
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I dont watch streamers but maybe they just wanna put on a show for their audience
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Sure, but their entertainment shouldn't be someone else's misery lol
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