Ungrateful

Who is being a bully? Yes, I called him out a bit at first. Most of my original comment was a general assessment of the forums. My follow up was indeed intended to sound a bit hostile since somewhat juvenile response of "you replied so you care" neither added anything to nor addressed anything from my overall illustration of how far too many people in this group are coming across as entitled and spoiled and wholly unappreciative of the incredibly hard and tedious work the devs put into ANY changes made. Their labor of love, even IF it were misguided and missed the mark, is being dumped on with impunity and frankly needs to be highlighted and treated with the same disdain they show in their demeanor.

Could I have handheld everyone and spelled out which specific aspects of my initial response to @OBX applied specifically to them? Sure. Could some of what I said be misinterpreted to appear as if I were thoroughly group them with the rest of the screaming and gibbering masses calling out for an Exodus? Possibly.

But just as equally they could have asked for clarification on points too. Instead I was met with a sophomoric retort (granted it was followed by well wishes that are appreciated, but also rang a bit hollow and snide placed seemingly as an afterthought. NOTE: In other words, my interpretation of things is as fallible as anyone's and absolutely guided my reply back). A massive problem with what these forums have continued to grow into is that it is becoming increasingly difficult to separate the well intentioned dissenting voices from the poo flinging monkeys...especially when one takes umbrage with someone railing against the monkeys and defends themselves as if every negative aspect described is about them. I suppose I could have drawn a clearer distinction between the various parts of my original comment, but such a breakdown would make me even more verbose than I already am...and I don't think anybody wants that (Of course this is opposed to days where I sound like someone taught a banana slug to type, but that is a different topic entirely).

The HUD is probably the least broken thing that happened this update, the most broken is the hitboxes, that's all types or ridiculous, they hit you from a mile away now, and no more 360 looping because why give survivors a chance when you can ruin the game instead.

Yes, a lot of people asked about ui-updates.

Usually they said they wanted to buff solo survivor with information to swf level, a totem counter was the most common request. They dont got that, true, but the new ui does provide more information to solo survivors than before, and i dont read anywhere that it is the final iteration and no other information might be included in the future.

And i think a lot of people dont like it because it is different than before, because thats the reason people dislike something a lot of the time.

"Ungrateful"?

We are allowed to give feedback on a terrible and objectively bad design choice.

Honestly... you have to understand people who are passionate about this game.

Not only did almost everyone dislike it in PTB, top streamers they speak with didn't like it... and even their own "fog whisperers" have memed it after release...

And then to respond that well... we can't undo it everything prior is gone... is a joke. The UI is almost effortless (yes I have experience) to change. UI follows you around every single game during every second... So yes people can be upset. It's not about being ungrateful. It's about a company going "oh yea ######### your opinions" and additional time on a test server with almost NOTHING changed.

Do I HATE the UI? Eh. I don't like it, alot. I find it clunky, amateur, and scattered info. But in this situation I understand the outrage. Will I quit the game? Nah, I like the game. But it did degrade the experience.

Listening to does NOT mean catering to or defaulting to. That's what so many naysayers don't seem to grasp. They very well could have taken the negative comments in and will work on finding a balance between what we have currently been given (try to remember also the HUD changes are apparently connected to later things being implemented) and specific issues addressed with the feedback.

It isn't like they can just completely scrap months worth of coding which will affect more coding and other plans at the drop of a hat. Nor should they.

Besides even IF they did many of the same voices crying foul now would be belittling the devs for not implementing anything new or for them taking too long between "welcome" changes. And we both know it. (NOTE: I'm speaking very specifically about the true whiners and not people willing to have decent and civil discourse on the matter.)

"Ungrateful is thrown around a lot. People say the player base is full of whiny children. But that implies we are never satisfied, and that we ask too much. No one asked for the map changes. No one asked for animations. No one asked for wave after wave of Cosmetic. People are even tired of the new chapter spam. People want what they have wanted since 2016, bug fixes, and perk balancing. People loved the style of the game, the dark aesthetics, the not so realistic styles. The UI shows they don't understand game design, but thats not the only reason its hated. Its hated not because it was so negative to the gameplay, but because no one even wanted it in the first place.

DS was comfort nerfed. It doesnt change how it will be used aggressively. The problem with it is survs can body block and run into lockers to force the use. All DS needs to do is reset when someone else is hooked and the problem is solved.

Object was annoying but certainly no priority.

They spread themselves so thin, they are trying to do too much and it shows. Ungrateful implies we are not grateful for how much they are doing for us. We dont want all of this. We want them to take their time, and to do each thing well before moving to the next. They are letting the game die because they can't listen to the community's needs and actually, carefully, address the issues

DBD is a game that people pay for. Paying customers are 300% justified in giving negative feedback to things they dont like.

Us console players have to try it so we can give our feedback. Even though many of us have seen it, have watched streams with it, and have collectively sided with the "we hate this" camp. But BHVR believes we have some form of PC blindness that makes it so we can only understand and see something when it is on Console.

What exactly is ungrateful about demanding a certain standard of quality in a product you have purchased? You make it sound as if they updated the game out of kindness and goodwill. This is a multi-million dollar game studio we're talking about my dude. Sure, they're not EA or Blizzard, but they certainly have the resources to do a lot more than what they deliver. No players, no game. It's in their best interest to get their act together.

There's just no point to some of these changes, I mean, I like the surv animations myself, but the UI is indeed, really questionable in design, guessing the survs are in a discord call or something.

It was pointed out by somebody else how it also affected motion sickness even more, which makes it less bearable overall, this is not a good thing for your game and THERE SHOULD BE an option, in miscellaneous or something, that allows you to have the old UI back, instead of this .