What would you do to fix spirit's standing still mindgame...

just remove her ability to hear survivor ehen phasing this way stridor spirit would be nerfed and if shebwant to standstill survivor could still walk to counter his mind game

Make her make noise when phasing, regardless of where you are.

I would probably make her shards glow like really bright when she phases or have a unique audio queue like a specific moan.

You could also make injured sounds non directional but get louder as you get closer.

You know, I don't really go against any good Spirits, so I'm not sure how valid my opinion is. Most rank 1 Spirits I go against seem to be rank 1 from another killer and new to Spirit. So take my opinion with a grain of salt- I'd probably feel differently if I actually went against good rank 1 Spirit players with good headphones and Stridor ahaha

Anyways, I don't really mind her stand still mindgames at most loops- UNLESS she has Stridor. Stridor, in my opinion, is what makes Spirit the monster she can be.

Spirit's main counter perks are Iron Will, Spinechill, and to some degree- Fixated. Spinechill helps shut down her stand still mindgames (since you will most likely see it flicker if she isn't actually standing there as she appears to be). And Iron Will gives you a little more power to mind game her back if you are able to break line of sight once you KNOW or even just guess that she is phasing. So those two perks together are really good at countering her to some degree, and just happen to be what your local Walmart Blendette may be running regardless.

But unfortunately, Stridor completely shuts down Iron Will. In most other killers, that's whatever, I don't think it's entirely unfair to have a counter to a survivor perk. But on Spirit? It just feels like it shuts down your ability to counterplay something that can already be difficult to counterplay. Even if you come into the trial technically prepared to face Spirit, you aren't really prepared, because your perk is now completely useless against the killer who already is making the most use out of sounds out of any killer in the game.

If I were to change anything, it wouldn't really be to give the survivor more information on when she is phasing, but to perhaps lower Spirit's audio levels when she is phasing and only when she is phasing. Maybe just around 50%- that way, if the survivor didn't get lucky by bringing Iron Will, you're still hearing them. And if they did? If you have Stridor, you're also still hearing them, but at slightly lowered volume than now. Spirit would still be good, just wouldn't have completely and utterly free information on what they were doing without putting more work into listening.

Her mind games are a big part of what makes her good. The ability to hear perfectly well while phasing is what makes her TOO good, imo. Idk tho, like I said, I haven't gone against any crazy good Spirits. The most unenjoyable Spirit games have been against the ones who had Stridor, though, LMAO

Make her red light dissappear when phasing

This is the easiest fix and honestly one of the best ones to. Or just make it so you only hear in her tr

Admittedly the way I'd do it is if you're standing still long enough at a certain point when a passive phase procs during each phase you losing vision of the survivor as if you were actually using your power and this gets disabled when you start moving again. As a tradeoff I'd give the actual killer player a tell when they're passively phasing. Such as their arms blurring on occasion on their own screen.

Regarding an actual tell for survivor I'd give the phase two distinct sounds that are almost identical but far enough that if you have a sharp ear you can tell but it would be subtle. One phase sound for phases happening while standing still and one phase sound for when The Spirit is using their power.

I'd also disable Stridor while phasing.

Because sometimes that's basically your only option in the case that you're in an open area with a pallet already thrown down. If you try to walk or run the Spirit is just going to catch up to you in phase. Vaulting the pallet and taking the risk is sometimes the only option a survivor has. Otherwise they're running out in an open field which a Spirit will be able to catch you before you reach the next tile. We can argue all day on whether the survivor should be given a chance to reach the next tile or if the chase should be enforced to end quicker since The Spirit is using their power but at the end of the day that isn't the issue. The issue is Spirit has no tell when they're using their power and it's unfun to play against and at times yes even unfair. In reality it's in The Spirit's ballpark to mess up also if they're good enough the survivor will never reach the next tile. Regarding being good enough you just need a little above average basic game knowledge to listen for the survivor and watch scratchmarks. Skills you don't even need to play Spirit to be good at.

The one issue with this is I'll acknowledge it's going to be hard to give Spirit a tell on when using their power and in my view it goes into this killer needs a moderate rework territory.

Because sometimes you're in a position where you're in an indoor map or at a loop in the corner of the map.

Sometimes the only way to go is around the killer, but where I could see Freddy place a blood pool, or a trapper trap the pallet, I am now in a position where it's checkmate without any input from the killer

If you are in the corner of the map and the killer is on the other side of the pallet, you are already in a bad position. A spirit standing still is not the issue in that situation.

make the husk disappear after 3 seconds of using her power

Make it so her shards glow really bright when she’s phasing. But make it only visible if you’re within a 16m range of her. That way you’ll still be in her terror radius and won’t hear the wind noise but you’ll be far enough away that if you can’t see her phasing you can choose to keep running and gain even further distance if she decided to phase. And so her standing still mind game is gone. Cause you’ll be close to her when she usually does it. That way there’s more indication for the survivor, but still keeps the spirits core gameplay.

It's still a bad position against the killer whether your went there intentionally to buy time for your teammates as you can't run away from the killer in a direction that gains you distance.

Other killers do stand still. There are mindgames killers can do at TL walls that involve standing still for a moment.

I've never thought of that, but that's actually one of the best suggested changes to Spirit i've seen.

""If the Spirit is faking, she's wasting time. If the Spirit is not faking, don't walk towards her.""

This is not what I said, nor would I. So right off the bat you're starting out an argument for something I'm not even saying. This is what you interpreted me as saying, which was incorrect.

"Yes, bc when the Spirit stops I need to stop and a good look at her to see if the shards are shining, look at her animation resetting, the occasional hair glitch, all perfectly intended signs by the development team."

Once again, never said any of these. Nor would I. Yes, you're trying to be sarcastic, but it's for a point that shows misunderstanding of Spirit at a fundamental level.

"I'm so tired of people giving useless advice in these forums trying to justify a killer power that is unfun to go against and takes counterplay out of the table. Just by having survivors stop to assess if she is or not phasing, the Spirit is already in a situation that is impossible for her to lose. She either fakes and watches the survivor escape pattern gaining knowledge of how they will try to avoid her or immediately phases and gain distance on them bc they had to stop to look for the bright shards/hair glitch/animation reset."

This is a skill issue on your part, not a Spirit issue.

If you seriously think it's a situation that's impossible to lose for Spirit you need to get some more experience with the game. Speaking hyperbolic doesn't add anything to the conversation.

Based on these things you've said you don't have a good understanding of Spirit. I think you should practice playing as and against her some more. There are some educational videos out there you can watch.

That is very dumb comparison statement since everyone knows the Spirit may or may not actually be standing still, while all other killers are.

He wasn't being literal man. He was making a point.

The point is whether you know if she's phasing or not, you don't walk towards her.