Can we actually do something about Deadhard please?

Dude without the Distance DH would literally be a time safe of 2 seconds. And thats only when you dont dont end exhausted on the ground.

Dh is a strong perk because it isnt used the intended way, and the intended way would be super weak. If you want to balance the game you dont just kill a strong perk, you balance it. And DH without distance would be straight up bad.

Moris are now useless, NOED isnt because it got a good nerf. You know theres a room between super broken and super weak. And thats where you have to aim for both with buffs and nerfs.

dead hard is getting changed already in one of the updates there redoing the code for dead hard so it doesn’t lag and it’s less buggy. But if I were to nerf the perk I would make it so after you dead hard you can’t vault or drop pallets for 1.5 seconds

I'm a killer main and DH really isn't that bad. The distance gained really isn't that hard to make up as long as you aren't directly following the survivor, (go around the wall instead of following through the window). If you're chasing a survivor and they're headed towards a pallet or window and they -have- to use DH to get to it before you, then you were going to be close enough to get pallet stunned or hit the window anyways.

Don't just bee-line after survivors. Predict where they are going and cut them off. It's sooo easy to catch up with survivors unless you're directly following their footsteps.

You entitled killer mains are so funny :D

Dead Hard is the most counterable perk in the whole f***ing game ( on the killerside). I don´t even use it because i think it´s completely underpowered.

1. Most of the time it doesen´ work. So yippie you get like a 30% chance that your perk will work, otherwise there are only 3 perks left
2. If you can´t counter it by pretending a hit, you might overthink your strategy or your rank.

There are so many owerpowered perks on the killer side + you get a buff after another for your crybaby killers literally every update, still you feel missjudged like kid who rans to Mama BHVR. And we don´t even need to talk about the complete broken Addons you have, which are literally uncounterable.

You can see it right now, no one wants to play Survivor because it´s broken at the moment. But you entitled Killer mains want the game just like it is right now, so you get your 4k every round.

Yeah me too, DH can be baited, can be countered with Exhaustion addons, cant be used against insta-downs, its pretty much useless outside of very especific loops and timings but 4 people with Sprint burst using it with brains can prolong chases by a LOT (by brains Im not talking about those who wait until you are close and sprint so you swing at the air, Im talking about the ones who actually manage to disengage you before you even get to chase them by running and going LoS in a maze).

@SenzuDuck Dead Hard is strong but not broken. I agree with you. SB is more useful since you get the same distance with no real way to stop it. DH takes a bit more skill and sometimes luck since the servers can just screw you for no reason. You can bait it out as killer. I do it a lot. I just wiggle my character quickly and that usually makes them DH XD. Or just quick hit them when up their ass since its so quick, it's almost impossible to time DH that way.

I can only hope the developers have a hearty chuckle at this thread. Survivors are allowed to have nice things too. Seriously, survivors only have 5 or 6 perks worth a damn, and one(ds) is about to be nerfed hard enough that survivors won't use it anymore. If you take away all the survival tools, killers will have to be WHACKED with the nerf bat to keep the game competitive and worth playing. You have to remember that the otherside isn't here as some prop. Killers need tools to kill and end chases, survivors need to have tools to resist those efforts. Preferably, both sides need to exert effort and wield skill in order to do so.

Just saying nerf anything that gives you a hard time is not a good idea at all.

I agree with OP post and Loopedbydeadbydaylight. Dead hard is as good as those other perks/add-on that he mentions. I honestly think its 2nd best perk on survivor. I don't think there is another perk that has made me waste more time and has prologues chases more so than dead hard. The amount of times that people have for example taken a hit, opened exit gate in my face and dead hard into an escape. People in end game collapse can unhook with borrow time, dead hard past teammate as teammate bodyblock while approaching an exit gate. People use this for extending loops and joining tile together. Many 50/50's that occur in vantage points for survivor are null by dead hard and the perk itself in general allows you to greed loops with no real risk. The perk is just godlike in every fashion. The good news is that not many survivors are skilled at looping, therefore the fact dead hard gives second chances in looping is irrelevant.

I am willing to bet that people who are rank 1 survivor mains probably escape 5% more statistic when they use dead hard compare to when not. its that good. I do not think they will ever weaken dead hard though. If i was propose a change to weaken it, I'd say to remove dash component of dead hard and instead make it give endurance effect for 2 seconds than apply exhaustion.

Sprint burst is only really good in two cases.

1) you 99% the sprintburst as you enter a chase, this requires a lot of setup and some luck for the killer to chase you. Its only really good for SWF because they can coordinate their exhaustion perk timers to maximize effect of exhaustion, fairely common for OoO user to use it.

2) your in a dead-zone and extra speed allows you to avoid a hit.

I haven't seen many survivors really use SB. I'd say Lithe/head on are more common but that is just my experience.

Dead hard is annoying yes. But it's just fine it needs no nerf. If it's buggy they should fix it. Just like they should fix nurse. Also noed is ok too as is.