Teabagging When You're Garbage.
I wanted to see the opinions of others because this was on my mind. When I'm a killer it always super gets under my skin when people clearly better than me start to T-Bag in the wake of their awesomeness.
I've never really T-Bagged before, I just don't see the value in making a final strike against someone who's already clearly having a bad time. Plus this game is already toxic enough without me being a total jerkwad on top of it.
The other day I was being chased by a killer, and it wasn't like I looped him for two minutes, for all intents and purposes it was a fair game. He got me onto a tile that had no escape, and it was curtains for me. So in a thoughtless act of pure defiance, I just started T-Bagging in those few seconds before I ate #########.
There was no way out for me, this killer was going to have his way with my corpse but at least in my final moments I had my pride.
Think something like that is toxic too?
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It's not toxic but it's not really smart either.
I'm a pretty chill killer who goes out of my way to play fairly and frequently gives hatch when survivors play nice. T-bag me and that option is off the table.
What's boggling my mind right now is that all the toxic t-baggers I've gone against recently have been objectively bad at the game. I've had survivors insta-throw every jungle gym pallet and then t-bag. I've had survivors t-bagging while looping me around their hooked teammate, preventing anyone from getting the rescue. I've had the lovely karmic feeling of watching a survivor t-bag me 3 feet away from a bear trap they're about to walk into. And then every single one of them DCed on death hook. Champions of the people, one and all.
All of this was just last night, by the way.
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Was playing Spirit yesterday on Coldwind and came across a David who was making it very clear that he was about to unhook in my face. I get a hit on him, he unhook, runs and throws a pallet, and starts to teabag, which means I'm phasing, run around the dropped pallet, and down him. I just looked at him with much disappointment. The only time I'm teabagging is if I'm goofing off with another survivor, not at the one thing in the game that's determined to kill me.
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Eh, I wouldn't find a stuck/doomed Survivor teabagging to be that offensive. There's only so many ways to express yourself in this game after all, although I am more familiar with friendly booping/pointing at a killer as a Survivor. That said it can be difficult to read intent at times and depending on how everyone else has been doing/the sort of day I've had, I might read it differently. Who knows?
I wouldn't really consider it toxic tho, since end of the day you still ended up hooked sot he Killer gets the satisfaction of thinking "haha, hoked the dumb git" and you get the feeling of "haha, I still got to say 'Sod You' before I died!"
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Honestly we need other gestures in this game. All we can do is really teabag, run in circles, beckon and point. I would love to have a way of showing gratitude for a good game at the exit gates. As it stands right now you can't even show good faith as you leave, because some killers will see you standing at the exit gate waiting for them as a form of mockery.
At this point I don't even go to the exit gate if I know they're there. 9 times out of 10 they'll beckon, I'll walk up and they'll leave before I can get a hit in. Either that or they'll just spam tea bag and heal in front of me knowing if I walk up they'll leave.
Sometimes people will leave an item behind, but that's so rare it's not even worth it to see if someone does that.
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The only way I can really express gratitude / good will to a Killer before escaping is by leaving behind whatever item I have on hand. I so rarely bring in/get anything I would really miss, so it's nice to just leave it behind for them. Like a present!
I feel like adding gestures is a slippery slope. If they start adding dances then... the atmosphere is just gone. But a Thank You gesture would be lovely, not jsut for thanking Killers, but fellow Survivors who've helped you out too.
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I feel like the right gestures would actually help eliminate toxicity in this game ever so slightly. Right now we have 'Are they being a douchebag?" as the kindest opinion, or "yeah they're being a total troll." as the worst. Besides dropping an item (Which isn't always an option.) there is no kindness.
I would love a 'good game' gesture, and maybe one that lets you beg for your life. Humbling yourself to a killer who is probably going to hook you anyways.
A wave emote, and maybe an "I'm sorry."
So many times I've accidentally sandbagged, or did something stupid I would love to offer a quick "Sorry!"
Sometimes you can't even tell where the other survivors heads are at, so that would also help build good faith with randoms mid-game.
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It would be really nice to clear the air like that. It's unfortunate however that, in my experience, even a positive emote can have it's meaning turned based on context or be used sarcastically. A wave emote would definitely be used as a 'Yoo-hoo! Over here dumbass!' towards a Killer or to try and point out another survivor to a Killer. A 'Sorry' could be used after you drop a pallet on a Killer... it's that sort of thing. Honestly the only game I've seen with non-toxic communication was Journey and that's because there's no PvP and all you can do is chirp.
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You're not wrong about that, and I absolutely can guarantee it will be used like that. I'm sure there are some times it would be used in earnest, which is more times than exist now. A net positive I'd say.
Now the question is how to get the devs attention onto this suggestion. Impossible.
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Teabagging isn't always about being a negative person or trying to hurt the killers' feelings. It's also a great strategy. If you need to know why, let me know. I'll explain. It's really simple, though.
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This person gets it
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I'm here to learn. Explain it to me baby.
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@RiskyKara Let's say you're a good looper. You want the killers' attention to stay on you to give your teammates time to pop the gens. Nothing like teabagging after a pallet slam and seeing that killer just stare you down before chasing you again. It serves a few purposes but it leads to the (same) reasoning. Another example. A teammate is being chased and gets downed quickly. It's clear he/she isn't very good at looping and the killer knows it so he/she tries to remove the survivor out of the game by tunneling. You can brute force a hit on yourself then teabag. Now that you're a hurt and teabagging, you look like a target that can be hit just as easy so you become that juicy new target, successfully pulling the killers' attention off of the person who would have been likely dead in less than a full minute, tipping the games' favor in the killers. It's why Mori's were hated so much. Get's a person out of the game, tipping the balance dramatically.
A gen is almost done and its the second to last or final gen. You 3-genned yourself and the killer is heading that way to check on the gen. You can teabag the killer after taking a hit on purpose to draw his attention towards yourself and off the gen that would have probably been stopped. Again, you look like an easy target now since you've already lost a health state and the killer wants you even more because of the teabag. Teabagging has won me so many games because the killers' focus on me heavily afterwards. I'm Rank 1 on both. When I get teabagged as killer, I chase but if it seems like I'm being looped too long, I leave. Its a strategy to keep the killers' attention off of other things. Sometimes, people get into their feelings and chase you for ALL 5 GENS and those are the BEST as survivor. Yes, it feels dickish if the killer is already tilted but your job is to survive, just as the same; the killers' job is to kill. You do with what you have to win. Sometimes, teabagging can save the game. Edit: I forgot to put in same XD so I put () to let you know near the beginning.
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Killer main here, and that's an okay use as long as you didn't teabag during chase.
Ya know what would have been even cooler? Do the "come here" wave as if to say "come at me bro, just do it!". Honestly. I might just walk away from a survivor who did that when cornered lol
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I might actually do that next time. See if I can't earn a second chance.
The other day my friend dropped their first aid kid right as the killer started their lunge, and it turned that from a hook to a hatch instantly. (Also I begged them in their t.tv too, but without that first aid kid it would've been a 4k >.>)
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I just had a killer game where I started, ran towards shack started a chase when a gen popped. Managed to down and hook a Lori when another gen popped. She wasn't the first person I chased and i was getting outplayed.
Was chasing a felix when i see another Lori just pointing and Tbagging. So I chased her and hooked her with 1 gen left. I decided she was going to die. I face camped. Last gen popped. The other Lori pulled her off without BT. Slugged her because DS. Finally killed her. All was well. (I wasnt mad or angry. I just assumed she was trying to ruin my game so i would do the same.)
Other survivors were waiting for me and i chased and downed a Dwight. Brought him to the exit as he wasn't being an ass.
It should be known, that much like OoO, it doesn't matter what your intentions are. Killers have been conditioned by the toxic players to automatically assume the worst.
Also, if im at an exit and the killer is being nice, i will very slowly crouch up and down twice as a thank you.
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If you want to be called toxic and annoying then put on object of obsession and a flashlight, then remap the flashlight button to be your scroll wheel and watch the rage pour in, in my opinion nothing in this game is toxic but the post game chat even though that seems to be an unpopular opinion around here
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