Based on the 'The Best of the Best tournament ';

Survivor

- Generator being completed = 2 points

- An survivor escaping = 2 points

Total number of points for survivors is 10 (2 per generator for 5 generators) + 8 (2 per survivor escaping for 4 survivors)

= 18 points

Killer

- 1 point per hook

- 1 point per death

- not awarded points for survivor processing a hook stage

(So hooking a survivor 3 times to death would be 3 points for the hooks and 1 for the death making 4. If a survivor was hooked once and died through the stages (I.e. not saved ) then it would be 2 in total - 1 for the hook and 1 for the death)

Thats the basic rules but its more tactical. Killers sometimes face camp survivors tk death because although the killer gets less points, he's depriving the survivors of points (if someone dies you've deprived the surviving team of 2 points immediately since they won't escape, plus 1 less survivors reduces gen efficiency etc)

Its also not altruistic because at the end of the game if 3 survivors are at an exit gate and one on hook the they'll often leave the person to die to get the survival points.

Basically True wants to make it more about saves, pubish slugging and camping etc

Hope this helps!

From what i understand, this all comes from tournaments where killers camp rather than actively seek, tunnel to make the 3v1 and an easier game, and slug for the map pressure.

The ruin bit is because a coordinated team can lose the game in 4 minutes with a single chase. Having ruin up heavily incentives killers to leave the hook and pressure the gens.

Slugging is a valid strategy, so his idea is slug all you want but after 30 seconds you lose points.

No hatch escapes which i think is not good but his argument is the rng factor of finding the hatch.

Are his ideas perfect? No. But who gets perfect on the first draft?

I wouldnt mind seeing a few games played with these rules just to see what happens.

Me too. I'm not saying every single thing is perfect but as someone already mentioned no one gets 100% with a first draft

Yeah but with every single killer? So how do you define good then? Plus you've completely missed the point of im not sayign hes good just because he's rank 1, he's good because he is at rank 1 maintains it AND plays every single killer. There's a difference between 'good' and 'excellent ' surely you're not saying that at the very least he 'isn't good ' ?

Id like to reiterate the point that he said you can only play killers once, so you cant only play Spirit and Nurse, you have to be good with multiple killers. so you also have to strategize whether to use the strong killers at the start or save them.

It sounds good to me. Only 3 perks for killer basically, because they're forced to take Ruin, but that's alright. Ruin is the most consistent perk that rewards killer for pressuring gens, which is why Undying got nerfed because killers can't have nice things.

I think it's an interesting idea. I'm not too impressed with the tourneys I've seen lot of boring gameplay granted theirs been some good matches too. I say mixing it up could be fun I'm all for the experiment I say sign me up TrU3! Now all I need is a team lol

I like his idea, this is def gonna be more interesting to watch then just camping/tunneling/slugging. Potential 12 chases and 12 hooks, way more gameplay. Best surv strat would be to seperate on 4 different gens (which is the best strat anyway). Teleporting and fast killers (Nurse, Spirit, Freddy, Demo, Blight, Wraith, Oni, Billy will get the most out of Ruin obv, all they need is Tinkerer. I had a few games with Ruin all game on both sides, it's not that hard. And remember, it would be with SWFs, so they can coordinate gens, chases and safes.

I see a lot of people complaining about the ruin eing unable to be cleansed, and then thise same people saying tru3 bad, he think slugging bad, tru3 bad, he needs to get good. Maybe watch his video explaining his rules instead of getting a deflated ego.

His ruin change was just a rule he wanted for tournaments. He clearly explains this is because generator speeds are too fast. By leaving ruin up all game killers have incentive to proxy gens and chase survivirs away.

Also he wants to punish slugging, camping, and tunneling as those require little to no skill. A game over in 4 minutes withought ruin and a game with 2 chases is boring. This is a tournament wich is supposed to show skill.

By giving points for safe hooks, and fresh hooks it keeps the players playing a lot more skillfull. Wich makes sense as these rules are for a tournament, a common showcase of skill in most games. Currently you dont see that skill in dbd with the current tournament rules.

'Most average survivors lack a deep understanding of most of those aspects, even big streamers'

So based on this definition an average player have a basic but not much better understanding of the forementioned aspects.

To me, good would be a reasonable understanding of the above aspects.

And excellent/top/exceptional players would have the deep understanding.

So if these definitions are fair (I think they are) can you really say true isn't a good player? Being not a good player means being worse than average and I don't think anyone can say he is that. Does he not at the very least have 'a REASONABLE understanding to make him above average (average as defined by you that is?

I'm not saying otz is trash at every killer but he literally tells people to go to other people if he isn't a master or at least really good at a killer like oni, billy, or huntress ,also he is doing the 50 wins and has not yet completed it its still really good but you said it like he already did every killer.

He does have a video for every killer but not hour long guides that go in depth into what the best way to play he has more general information like best perks and best beginner perks. tru doesn't either but he does play a big mix of killers a lot on stream He has a lot of knowledge on the game he just doesn't put in the time and effort to make a video and put it up on youtube and that's ok he doesn't have to.

You appear to be so now. If you actually read it all you would see what I'm actually questioning is the definition of a good player. You don't like it? Then don't read it, all I'm saying is you cared enough to comment. It's a discussion page, we are having a discussion. We may disagree but I would say we are both being respectful about it

It's called a discussion and this is a discussion forum. If people don't like it don't read it. I'm not acting like the better person, I would say we've both been respectful and we agree to disagree but there's nothing wrong with that. If we all had the same opinion life would be boring. Once again its a discussion forum, if people don't like the discussion ignore it, dont read it etc

Well I'm quite happy spending time doing this thank you. And once again you cared enough to comment. Now if you'll excuse me I'm away to watch paint dry...

Apologies @panernaners I misread and thought that was directed at me. Apologies again

You are correct though, I should have stopped at the point i was wrote off as new. Nothing I could have said would change anything so I fully accept that. As I said sometimes it prompts meaningful discussion, but sometimes you're right it doesn't