The new Survey has a focus on E-Sport
It looks like the devs want to know how eager we would be, to spend money for official e-sport merchandise, when DbD becomes a e-sport game.
While DbD is in no shape to become a e-sport game anytime soon, i´d love to see how it becomes one. But they need to focus on balancing first.
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I don't necessarily see DBD turning into an e-sports game. HOWEVER, I could easily see them make a spin off game that is actually geared towards being suitable for an e-sports scene. A new game would give them a chance to get away from all the spaghetti code, you know?
Perhaps they'll dip their toes in the water with DBD as it is, but DBD is already close to 5 years old at this point and I would actually be surprised if they tried to retrofit the game to be e-sports friendly. Maybe that IS what they're thinking of doing, though.
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I have not seen it but can you blame them? Esports is where the money is at. More spectators, more money. More balance.
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Esports is a long way off thanks to casual balancing. Would be nice to see tournaments not have to make up rules to create balance.
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LMFAO
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As long as the game's balance is where it currently is, e-sports is a non-option IMO.
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What shape the game is in is completely irrelevant to whether or not they will try to turn this into an e-sport. Any game, even an imbalanced game, can be an e-sport. Its not fair, but it's still an e-sport LOL
I bought the overwatch league skins because I liked the look. I'd do the same here if I liked the look.
And I'd most likely pick my team based on whoever has the best looking outfit anyway LOL
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Tournaments don't have to make rules like that but they do anyway to make it more fun. Compare it to most other competitive games - they don't need a hero/map/civilization/whatever banning system, to limit people to only picking each hero/map/civilization/whatever once per match, etc. but they often do anyway because it's more fun to watch something with more variety than to always have games with all of the current meta picks.
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Maps are a bigger concern imo. If you could replay a map with the exact same map seed in competitive matches, most balance issues would be somewhat moot; you'd just set the game up one way and then switch roles but keep the same setup. That way one side wouldn't get screwed because they happened to get much worse RNG in map generation.
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They are doing Japan Championship right now and many are not happy with what they see there.
If they are aiming towards ESport then they should plan balance like you said.
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True they don't have to. I do think it helps to make it more entertaining since high level play creates fast and uneventful snowballing.
Watching that most recent tournament felt very disconnected from my gaming experience. Only time I see survivors waiting around doing absolutely nothing like that is immediately after rank reset and they are bad survivors.
With high level play coordinated teams can give the killer multiple hooks knowing it's occupying them long enough to pop all the gens and they still escape.
Thought it was hilarious that they had to limit survivors so much.
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Yes, the tournament made it painfully obvious how bad the balance is.
If they really want to establish dbd as esport title, then they need to change a lot.
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Maybe they already had predetermined map seeds in mind, when they started with the map reworks.
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As someone new to DBD, just curious as to why it ‘can’t” be an e-sports game?
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Because right now, the balancing is horrible. If we start from the premise that 2 die and 2 escape, the killer needs to get between 6 and 10 hooks.
During the first chase, survivors usually complete between 2 and 3 gens. Means that survivors have done 40 to 60% of their objective. While the killer has completed 10% of his objective.
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The game has far too much imbalance in map design and outdates mechanics / clunky animations to ever be considered as a serious e-sport. It would take... so... much... to steer it. Any game can have a pro scene thrive if enough people WANT to invest and spectate... but the framework/game design would not favor this focus.
I don't think the devs currently understand how to make an e-sports game nor how to balance the game already. I am not saying they are not intelligent and worthy... because they are. I just believe they aren't (today) ready nor open-minded enough.
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It's just one of those many unnecessary questions they put on surveys that doesn't make a lick of difference. I'm literally not taking the surveys anymore because they're so long for no good reason.
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No, it´s not just one question. There are several pages that revolve around esports and if we like to watch them, how much we spend on them, what merchandising we buy, etc.
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I didn't say it was the only one. I'm tired of having surveys so long yet filled to the brim with so many arbitrary and nonsensical questions, while also not featuring obvious questions like, "Do you have frame rate problems?" "How fun does it feel to go against multiple strong perks on every survivor?" They try so hard when making these surveys to be as vague and unhelpful as possible.
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That would require for them to admit that the game is unbalanced.
The Japan tournament was heavily restricted on perks and items. Yet the survivors mopped the floor with the killers. I would have loved to see how it goes against full meta SWF teams.
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This game is way to unbalanced for esports, the map generation alone is enough to rule that out.
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I hope so! That would be awesome.
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I don't think this game could ever be a serious eSports contender but looking at upcoming changes to DS and OoO through that lens, it makes sense. Why else would devs suddenly nerf two very controversial perks when they've been ignoring them for years?
Moris and keys, too, now that I think about it
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Where's the survey link?
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On the "news section" on the game itself. It may be here somewhere as well.
I started taking the survey and it just was way you too long imo
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some of the questions went into personal attitude while playing DBD and other were asking about how fair you felt monitization in paid games is.
I pretty much told them that I'm against it 100%
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Thing took me like 20 minutes and then at the end they wanted me to spend another 5 minutes booting up DBD and getting that ridiculously long ID code. Honestly if they're gonna start asking for your ID they need to start rewarding people for doing these surveys. Or make them much shorter
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If only devs could understand that balancing this game is the key to make them and us happy(they could earn much more money and players wouldnt be disappointed like they are today). This game could be top 5 worldwide if they wanted it to be.
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agreed
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I remember seeing it on the game but I hate filling out surveys through there.
On my phone it's 10x easier
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They have a very long road ahead of them to make the game anywhere near competitive-ready, let alone esports level.
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I skipped the ID part. I see no point in giving them my ID over the survey.
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Yeah it took me 20 minutes and only a little over a half hour of free time so I had to quit. It was just too time consuming and some questions just weren't needed
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idk how an asymmetrical game would work in the e-sport scene tbh
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Poor balancing doesn’t seem to stop all the other e-sports game, LoL is (and always has been) horrendously balanced, they just turn it on its head and refer to it as that seasons “meta” lol!
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Dbd isn't made to be and e sports game. If they try it will just be a waste of money that could have been used for fixing the game. Yea it could make some money but it will lose much more. Besides dbd isn't a well known game like apex/CoD/fornite.
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I could see DBD as an E-sport side event like Mario Party tournaments.
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