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If sexuality has no place in dbd why is there sexuality in it already?
Are we fighting to remove Felix's girlfriend, David's ex, and do a total revamping of Nurse's lore which the driving force in her insanity was the loss of her fiance/husband?
No? Not a peep about it?
Then sexuality isn't the problem for you all, the problem is that LGBTQ+ individuals that exists loud and proud despite being heavily killed or suffer prejudice in all forms is a problem for you, because they dare exist in a way that they can be perceived.
Heterosexuality was always shoved in our faces, but apparently that isn't a problem, the problem is when queer individuals dare exist or love.
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And I agreed?
Anyways i'll take my leave, you guys discuss the topic since my input is being received with alot of hostility which I don't really need(not by you tough). I am good with a LGBTQ+ character.
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That is exactly the issue.
We as heterosexuals do not pay attention to the sexualities of the characters. Whether or not they are straight we don't care, we don't pay attention to those things.
There is no update message, nor any promotion about X character is straight, there is the issue.
When LGBTQ characters appear, they make promotions to it, as if it were something special. And that is what catches our attention.
As a developer you want to place gay people or those who are lovers of tofu? That seems perfect to me. But don't promote them as disabled characters.
And something that I always notice in this class of people like you ... they get offended very quickly and take it very personally. I would recommend you change that tone when writing, it only denotes that you are a resentful person.
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Sorry you see it that way. I am always writing in a calm manner, but I am not a native English speaker so that may be the reason why some people may assume I would be offended?
but speaking of, reading your comment I can only imagine someone that is offended... where those letters really necessary for the point? also the way you are addressing me.. „class of people like you“. Lol.
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Please make sure to let everyone know that in the endgame chat if you are doing this. Otherwise they could assume you did it without reason
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I hope you face nothing but 4man SWF Squads with DS/UB/SG/IW, 4xCommodious Toolboxes w/ BNP + Wire Spool, forever on Haddonfield and Fractured Cowshed for the remainder of your time playing DBD.
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i mean idgaf unless its just forced in there i wont buy the new chapter any one but i cant stand games that force the woke in there
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Your English is really good man, dw ^^
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You should hear me talk in English
(lol no, nobody should, really)
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Well your written English is great ^^
But that's like me, God forbid anyone ever have to hear me speak in German haha
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Is the same thing as "Men don't have the same rights as women, so women are obvs overrated and us men are opressed by the system"
Exactly same vibes
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It actually makes your point weaker.
Nurse had a husband, Nurse and Wraith are canonically a couple, Felix's story mentions he has a girlfriend and going to have a baby.
You say you don't notice it, which means that you only see sexuality when it isn't the "norm". Besides, if you think that, somehow, changing a word or defining someone's sexuality somehow hurts or detracts from the game then that's on you. A poorly written story isn't worse because the character is LGBTQ+. Felix's story is written terribly.
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People legit act like it will effect the gameplay of it. The only thing it's going to impact is the story for the characters and that's really it. Like geez relax.
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And so instead of letting them do their jobs and remove it from the forums, they make 30 new posts restarting the topic? It doesn't come across as defending against this "onslaught" of haters, it comes across as stirring it up and hoping someone posts something that can come across as discrimination because they can't find any to reply to.
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I'm transgender, mate. I just dislike the louder drama hungry lgbt community acting like they universally speak for everyone when they actually make things a lot harder. Like throwing a fit about a character in a slasher video game that hadn't even been announced yet to warrant outcries of being done wrong.
But yes, anyone that disagrees is by default homophobic, we can assume that instead and feed the drama.
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It's probably because they didn't notice about any of the characters sexualities in game mostly because they never really thought it mattered even with straight characters. I guess for characters like nurse it was included for her lore purposes but we just saw it as, "oh ok, I guess that's her lore, time to queue up for a match"
I can also see why that people would want a LGBTQ character, because it'll feel good to have one I wouldn't immediately jump to that conclusion that they would have a problem with LGBTQ as a whole that's a very hasty assumption since they even themselves said they weren't homophobic nor have any problems, and it was just something they didn't notice. Their wording in their post probably gave off that feeling
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I personally don't mind or care for sexuality in the game
EDIT: I wouldn't mind if it were incorporated into the lore of a character either, as long as they don't make it the sole defining trait. We should be able to relate to a character because of their personality, who they are, what they want to do, how they think, not just who they're interested in. Although I would like a trans character in the game.
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Got to love LGBTQ people immediately pulling the phobia card to anyone who disagrees with them, really shows maturity and makes people respect us as equals.
The fact that people are more bothered about adding gay, trans or any other niche gender that only impacts 0.05% of the population of this game over actual problems with the core gameplay of DBD, really screams at the priorities of the playerbase and how they really just want to sexualise all the characters.
This is coming from a gay man, so don't bother with the phobia card.
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Its not that people are bothered, they just don't feel like its necessary. I would not mind a LGBTQ character though as long there is more to them than just that.
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Its not that people are bothered, they just don't feel like its necessary.
So why didn't they complain about Nurse, David, Felix, Frank, and Julie?
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People will ignore every aspect of that character and just focus on their sexuality, even if they have a good backstory.
Look at the existing male characters for example, do any of the LGBTQ people ever go "Wow, such a good backstory!". No, they go "Omg, I want to see Felix shirtless". "Is Dwight a top or bottom?"
It has nothing to do with representation, people just want a character to sexualise.
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Sorry, I didn't elaborate enough. What I meant is that sexuality is not of any importance to the game whatsoever. TBH, not a lot of people even care enough to remember that any of these people were in relationships, including me.
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Very true, although there are some people, including I, who appreciate character stories.
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Look at the existing male characters for example, do any of the LGBTQ people ever go "Wow, such a good backstory!".
Yes. Me, for instance. Also, the sexualization is done as a joke by both LGBT and non-LGBT people.
If it's of no importance and heterosexuality was no big deal, then non-heterosexuality shouldn't be either. It's that simple.
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You are sadly, the vast minority.
If they added a LGBTQ character, I wouldn't hate it but I already know its going to be "omg is he a top or bottom? UwU daddy"
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I agree with that last statement, as the devs once said, "there is no time for love in the entity's realm."
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Exactly. So why certain people are rallying against this, I have no idea. It's gonna be tucked away in the lore, which most people (at least on the forum) don't read to begin with.
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Great point. I don't exactly know why either, but I don't think its that they're homophobic IMO. I had made a discussion once (that I regret making) that the devs were harassed with making a LGBTQ chapter, but it was quickly shut down as it should have been, so there's really no reason behind the complaints.
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Some definitely are, trust me. However, their comments get removed (for obvious reasons), which makes the complaints/accusations of homophobia seem out of place and exaggerated.
It's the same everywhere: the comments get removed, and then other people (whether well intentioned or not) say that everyone is making a big deal out of nothing.
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Pretty much
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Oh no, how dare you to try and ask something? Im will now proceed to call you homophobe and cancel you. Have fun.
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It depends which complaints you're looking at. I find a lot of posts are complaining that this is being shoved so hardcore compared to ANY other demographic not being represented yet in DBD -- dozens upon dozens of new posts, seemingly without end, many of which seem to be trying to stir up drama because the posts BEGIN with "stop being homophobic" which is just someone making yet ANOTHER new post STARTING the topic rather than stopping it.
I'm complaining that the forums were overtaken by countless threads pre-complaining about a character that didn't exist yet, wasn't confirmed, and that we had NO information about -- and yet tons of people were already writing novels about how the character is "being done wrong". And that's just annoying. It comes across as fighting for the sake of fighting. There isn't anything constructive about complaining about an LGBT character being written wrong when the character doesn't exist yet. It's just using the forums as a soapbox to rant about something that has nothing to do with anything actually in the game yet. And it turned out to be exactly that since it sounds like the new characters don't have anything lgbt in their backstories anyway.
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This thread has remained open all this time, OP isn't banned (not even jailed), so this rings more than a little hollow.
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My Wording could have been better yes. And your right. Sexuality to me just isn't important enough in this game to make such a big deal about it, thats all this post is about.
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Ah, another Homophobe card! This will make a fine addition to my collection! *Cough cough*
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It really doesn't depend on the complaints I'm looking at, though. Show me one person who said that sexuality has no place in horror (a hilarious misconception given that the slasher genre is steeped in sexuality and has been since its inception) who also complained about all those characters' lore as much as they're complaining about hypothetical LGBT characters.
If sexuality has no place in DbD, then that includes heterosexuality, but people only complain about non-heterosexuality. And you wonder why some might think the complaints are fueled by homophobia?
Yes, hearing about the same subject many times can get annoying. However, most of the threads were like this one, asking why people wanted it or why it mattered or whatever, if not downright homophobic (using throwaway accounts, naturally, because those people can't even own up to what they believe unless they don't have to face any consequences).
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To be fair, this thread has seen me accused of homophobia a good amount. Its all good though. It doesn't get to me.
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I feel it's unnecessary.
But some apparently need that satisfaction of "representation" like we gays are going to expire without it.
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Sex is a huge horror trope, yes! Sexuality, however is not. Sexuality is political now, and that pretty much all but completely seperates it from the beautiful, touching, interpersonal spark that it used to be.
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"Need" is a strong word. "Want, because heterosexuality is already in the game and everyone should get equal treatment" is more accurate.
Sexuality is not political. Human beings existing and having certain characteristics is not political.
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wow who knew me being gay meant i was actually a political statement and not just me having been born like this
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I was mostly mocking the reaction of some people here.
Im just going to add my grain of sand,
Is not important, i personally dont care if a character is straight or if is LGBT or whatever, it is not important for the game, is not a dating simulator, if a character is established as homosexual, i dont care, if its stablished straight, i dont care, if its established as an atacking lobster, i dont care. Its not the main point of the game and i find that people, both sides, are overreacting a lot for such a minor theme.
Actually, thats why i loved when they mentioned that one of their writers said "Love has no place in the entity's realm", because at the end of the day, it doesnt matter for the game's lore/gameplay/anything other than perhaps marketing.
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I beg to differ. Everything from race to gender, to sexual preference has become political in modern society.
What you describe is, indeed, how it should be, but the reality is that the majority of LGBT activists are busy taking that personal thing and shoving it down everyone else's throats, and, unfortunately, the rest of us end up getting lumped in with them.
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It means sexuality is a huge political thing now. Im not accusing anyone of using it as such, but anyone with eyes or ears can clearly notice that its a huge player on the political battlefield these days.
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did you ever imagine this thread getting this crazy?
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No, people existing is not political, no matter how much certain groups want to make it seem that way. As for the activists, were it not for them, I would not be able to hold hands with my BF in the street. I wouldn't be able to marry him (eventually, I hope). However, we still can't donate blood, among other things.
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Ur so cool!!!!! Like... you must be so proud!!! Get off the internet. Seriously. U look like a joke.
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Not in a million years. I expected soneone to explain to me why they felt it was such a big deal, maybe an angry response or two.
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HA!
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All I wanna know is what trapper and oni are packin', thats all ;)
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