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Am I the only one who thinks the Trickster is very good?

TheBus4K
TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

I have only been able to play 4 games with him because matchmaking takes 20 minutes to search for a game and I prefer to play without the PTB. The first game they all escaped because I didn't understand how the killer worked (I didn't know that I could make several clicks and throw several blades at the same time), also I didn't know when I left someone injured and that the bar would be reduced if I didn't hit at a time.

The next 3 games I did a 4k in all. I didn't use addons, and the perks were Tinkerer and No Way Out (I had the character at level 8). The chases were incredibly short because it is so easy to hit him with seven blades, as even if they try to dodge or go into safe loops, it's very easy to hit with the speed of the blades.

The only thing I have seen bad about the character is that the Main Event cannot be canceled, and if you manage to knock someone down, you stay like a fool waiting for the Main Event to end, instead of being able to cancel it.

It's one of the few killers along with the Demogorgon that I have been able to enjoy a lot, and although its design seems horrible, I really liked its playability.


TL;DR: Can anybody tell me why people don't like him or seem weak to him? Because maybe they only matched me against bad survivors, but the Trickster seemed very strong to me.

Comments

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171
    edited March 2021

    As far as I can tell, he's a close to mid range killer. Highly tile and map dependant. As long as you have cover and know when/where to crouch it's hard to down with knives. The main problems with him is the time it takes to down ppl, his mediocre range/accuracy and his movement speed to get into a good position for his power to be more effective. Overall, he depends on survivors making mistakes so he downs faster. So why use him over other characters? More importantly why buy unless you think he's hot or happen to like the different playstyle?

    Survivors don't like him because he doesn't feel interactive and if you let the killer get into a good position he's uncounterable. At the same time, he will eventually get into a good position. Also, he's classified as an easy killer and people don't like the idea of being downed by a killer that doesn't take skill.



    As for why ppl don't like him. They don't like how he looks or they don't like k-pop.

  • cobie_
    cobie_ Member Posts: 2

    Nah, I think he's much better than people are making him out to be. Unfortunately, most people just look at their favorite YouTuber/streamer for their opinions instead of forming their own.

  • hatchking
    hatchking Member Posts: 312

    It's more simple than slaughter If a survivor thinks they're good or can't counter them they will either say the killer is bad the player is bad or the killer is op and the player is bad (I know i'm a level 99 meghead)

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531

    He seems okay but outclassed tbh

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    "Mediocre accuracy"? I find it a million times easier to hit someone with a blade than with an ax from the Huntress or Deathslinger's weapon. I also don't understand "mediocre range", with the speed of the blades it's quite easy hitting someone who, for example, is vaulting a window.

    Also, with the add-on "Trick Blades" (the one that allows the blades to ricochet) it becomes even easier to hit someone.

    I don't know, it seems to me that it is very easy to down people. It's true that in some loops it becomes more difficult to hit them, but the moment they jump a window, move or throw/jump a pallet, it's very easy to throw enough blades to hurt someone.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    Yea just you 8 knives 16 to down requires los to use his power effect can decay in chase

    110 no map pressure

    For a 110 time to down Is mediocre

  • Carth
    Carth Member Posts: 1,182

    He's a 110% move speed killer which means he really suffers in loops, add in that survivors who know how to loop can make a joke out of him(and all the 110% speed killers) at certain loops means that those killers powers need to be very good when they do finally 'catch' the survivor. Taking a quick look at the others let's see what happens when that tiny window opens up


    • Huntress will hatchet you for one health state
    • Hag can teleport/shut down the loop after one circuit
    • Deathslinger can hook you and drag you in
    • Spirit can phase and move at very high speeds to land a hit

    So basically all the other 110% speed killers either can instantly shut down the loop or can make you lose a health state when the window opens up. What does the trickster do though? He hits 2-3 blades maybe and even that is being generous. So you(without using the ricochet addon) now need to land another 5 or 6 blades which as we already established you get 2-3 maybe. So another 3ish loops? That is a lot of time the other survivors get to do whatever they want. Your reward for doing all that and investing that time is 1/12 hook states. He just doesn't have enough time in a game to play that way. It's the same problem with twins, if you add any more time than a standard M1 115% killer hit -> down -> hookthen it becomes bad/not worth it to play that way. This is of course assuming you're playing against 4 decent survivors. If we are talking blendettes hiding in corners and nobody on gens then yeah, he is fine.

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    You make it sound like 16 blades is a lot, when it really is quite a bit if you have minimal aim. Also, note that there are several situations where you can hit with an M1 at least to wound them, and then throw 8 blades to bring them down.

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171
    edited March 2021

    Being able to hit vs accuracy is different. The further I am away from him the worst his accuracy gets and the lower the amount of knives he can accurately hit me with since he can't spam as fast since he has recoil and RNG aim spread. That makes his effective range rather short compared to how far he can actually throw. Note I'm saying effective range. Of course if you're 10m away from him with no LoS obstacles around, he's going to easily hit with knives when you're stuck in an animation.

  • AChaoticKiller
    AChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104

    i mean he is literally a slower deathslinger, the only difference is the survivor WILL go down as long as you don't run out of knifes but deathslinger just downs survivors much much faster.

    comparing him to any of the other ranged killers he is down right the worst. probably better than trapper tho.

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    I can get to your point, but if you only manage to hit with 2 blades while someone is vaulting a window/pallet, the problem isn't with the killer, the problem is your ability to click, because I can easily hit with 4 blades.