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Doctor is op change my mind
change my mind please
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Lmao
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in what way is he op?
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He has decent anti loop and great tracking but no way to pressure gens
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he has anti loop and tracking mixed with a bit of slowdown, but has no map mobility, if it was Freddy I'd understand but Doc? Doc's fine
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No way to travel the map quickly, and a non-lethal power that mainly counters inexperienced survivors and their weaknesses (bad attempts at stealth, skillchecks, pallet camping)
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Those "change my mind" posts are among the most lazy discussions. The poster mostly provide nothing of their viewpoint or standing on the matter except a single absolut statement. They just want to be a reactive part of the discussion, without preparing any arguments themselves and just disregard many comments going against and compliment statements going along with their opinion.
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I don’t think he’s OP at the highest level of play but I do think he’s perhaps too easy to use. I don’t play survivor much anymore but when I did I noticed most games against new Doc were a loss, it feels like if your team aren’t (genuine) red ranks then you’re looking at 4k with 4-5 gens remaining. What people say about Freddy and Spirit, in my experience it’s Doc that is the easy to play pick up and win killer. For some reason survivors other than the pros just dont know how to play against him.
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Lmao
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Get good.
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Okay here's some practical doc advice from someone who plays him and does well against him. You might uninterested but maybe someone else will be.
-Get a feel for when he uses his static blast. Most doctors have their own pattern. After hooking someone is common, it's also likely to come at any point when he's not in chase. If you're lucky he'll use it while chasing someone and keep going for them which some do (it's a waste doing that)
-if you're just on the edge of his terror radius try and stay around there, and be ready to run in the appropriate direction when you feel the blast coming
-if you're near a locker when the blast is coming, get in it. He won't see you and you won't get any more madness
-if you're near a locker but can't get in it quietly in time, rush in. He's gonna know where you are anyway, you'll save yourself some madness though
-if he has iron maiden and you think you can keep him busy for 30 seconds, get out of the locker post-blast, spend the four seconds he can see your aura crouchwalking around like a noob and then hightail it out of there. He'll probably be more intrigued by you than by any teammates he just zapped if you're healthy
-constantly zapping you around a small loop will probably be unproductive for him, so let him do it. Don't bother stopping to try and drop it, just go round and round until he hits you. You're not trying to stay healthy forever, just waste time.
-play him yourself and experiment with addons to see what they actually do, and you'll know what tricks he's brought with him and which he hasn't. I.e. if he has fake pallets, and you keep getting the red stain in chase you know he has order and discipline, that means he doesn't have restraint so the fake doctors won't tell him where you are and zapping you won't show your aura, and it means he doesn't have calm so if you hear a distant terror radius then it's a real one. Unless it's iri king in which case have a fun match I guess!
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I mean, go play Doctor I guess. He's strong, but he isn't OP. Add-ons might be, though
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Could you explain why you think he’s op?
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Judging by the fact that you have 4 total posts on these forums I'm going to guess that you don't have a ton of experience in DBD. Which is fine! Welcome to the community!
The thing to consider is that while Doc's anti-stealth ability makes him a terror to newer survivors, he's pretty middle-of-the-pack against more skilled survivors.
The more you learn about looping pallets and running tiles the less scary his ability to reveal your location will see. Keep in mind that depending on his perks/addons he's going to be revealing your location from a maximum range of 32 to >50(!) meters. Since he then has to run that distance to reach you this gives you more than enough time to reposition or find a safe loop to run to.
The wonky skill checks can seem difficult at first too, but again you'll get better at them with more experience.
Other than that Doc just has decent anti-loop with his shock-therapy and completely average mobility. Not OP by any stretch if you know how to play against him.
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Doc isn't overpowered. He's one of the training wheel killers, here to teach new survivors gameplay mechanics. Doc teaches survivors about lockers and skill checks, and the valuable lesson that you need to always be listening for the TR. He only seems OP until you learn the lessons he teaches, then he's your friendly jolly boy, here to perk you up (with a few thousand volts to your bits)
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Not even arguments as to why he's op.
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You survivor mains are just too funny to think Doc is OP
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He is pure annoyance, with slight CC when his shocks are timed.
Learn to deal with the visual inturuptions.
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Laughs in Samination Doctor
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Not mostly. The OP provided nothing.
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This is more of general survivor advice but do these things:
*Fake vaults
*Use connected tiles
*Don't be too immersed, stealth is good to use but only at critical times.
*Be nice to the killer and they may be nice to you. (don't try to be their friend but play respectfully)
These tips may or may not be useful
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Bait
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You are the only one who thinks this. Most killers are better than Doctor but if you are a "stealthy" survivor then he is irritating. But you should not be stealthy just focus on doing gens, totems and get out.
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Your bad. Change my mind
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Doc is sadly not even close to op. Even against good survivors. He don't stand a chance,
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Wait . . . what?
I mained Doc for well over a year (next to Myers). He's a pubstomper for sure, but that's about it. Against decent survivors? Yeah . . . 😂
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people like you are the reason why killers get nerfed
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Also the reason why Freddy is getting nerfed, people always say "Nurse is the best killer". So why in the hell is Freddy getting nerfed, you know the developers don't think of nerfs, only survivors do.
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Well, Nurse has been left to rot with how many attached bugs to her for how long now? 🤣
But hey . . . here's that new HUD for everyone!
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I play doc when I don't want to put on headphones and try, he's good, but not op. I generally wipe the survivor floor using him but lose plenty as well.
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Man it's been quite a while since I've seen someone call Doc op.
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I get that. I have tinnitus real bad on one side, so spirit is pretty much never going to be my main. Doc is much easier as I can rely on visual notifications
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You obviously don't change your play style and try to force success with bad tactics. Doc has counter play.
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The bait is strong with this one
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Here
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Im dying here lmao
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You can hear when he goes for his static blast. If you're outside his terror radius, stay there and wait for it pop. Once it does, you're good to move. Don't try to play around pallets with him. He seemed OP when I first started, but more interaction with him has shown the counterplay options.
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Why would I waste my time trying to change the opinion of a person who is totally in the wrong?
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there is no single facet of his kit that doesn't have direct counters. In the case of most killers, you are meant to put survs in an unfair position by design. Myers wants to 99 stalk to get a free down on a healthy surv who evaded getting scanned. Plague can force you to choose between stopping a gen from regressing and staying healthy. Trapper can close off every entrance into killer shack with someone in basement... which is a dick move but he has the option. A doctor who tries to overshock as someone loops a pallet will be hit with a lot of pre dropped pallets to deny a free hit. If you think hes about to use his big shock you can hop in a locker to ignore the effects. He's like plague, you have to waste a bit more of your resources during the early game than you'd normally like to to deny their snowball.
Doctor is def one of the killers with the highest snowball potential, and if he gets that control early enough, yes you are in trouble, but he can be hard countered every step of the way.
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This meme is really paying itself.
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Doctor feels very oppressive to newer players because they mainly rely on hiding to avoid the killer.
Once you get better at chases, Doctor becomes pretty mid-tier. There's almost always a secondary path at a pallet to extend the loop when he denies the pallet with a shock. Loop the long side until he gets the shock at the pallet, KEEP MOVING when you get shocked and move to the shorter side to wait out the stun and try to drop the pallet safely. He either respects it and buys you time to get back to the long side or he eats the stun. If you play against Doctor right, he doesn't get hits at many tiles. Just forces the pallet down. I ran out the entire EGC at cow tree against a Doctor last night.
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Because he can't so easily be bullied
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Bruh ahah fair enough
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I agree, but the amount of doctors who mistime shocks and/or get cucked by bad servers, it doesn't seem so.
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Just like that, I'm buying Doctor.
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No, it's git gud
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decent killer = op?
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So killers typically have 2 things that BHVR designs. Chase potential and map control.
Admittedly Doctor doesn't have the worst chase potential because of his shocks but even then there are other killers who have can stop survivors from looping faster than he can.
....And he has no map control at all. He has to walk his ass around the map and can only M1...
Now someone like Legion is the complete opposite, where they have really high map control with their speed and tracking but can't loop at all because they only have an M1.
Now some killers were born with both of those abilities and that's why some people hate them. Nurse can move fast and teleport through objects. Freddy has good snares and can teleport to any gen he wants. Spirit moves insanely fast and can be invisible.
Compared to the "OP" killers Doctor is not even close. Even to high tier killers like Oni he still has to walk around the map slowly and has a meh power.
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Doctor is a fictional character and cannot be an OP. You are OP.
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Not really OP more of annoying. Especially with one that runs ruin because all they do is gen loop like scrubs. Plus playing solo against him can be annoying especially if your mates are just grabbing u as soon as he walks 10 feet away. OP ain't it tho. The spirit and Killers like Ghost Face and Pig that eliminate the radius are. Docs are usually just gen campers
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Doctor is only remotely good vs inexperienced survivors, but all killers are good vs inexperienced survivors. Doctors lacks map pressure, his shock has a delay so making vaults is pretty common and so on. A good Doctor vs 4 good survivors is going to get stomped on 9 out of 10 times. Too many players just rush to call killers overpowered instead of realizing that they are actually not as good as they think they are at survivor.
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