What's your thought about Noed?

I'm in between for this right now, and my opinion on Noed often goes back and forth, but here's what I think for the most part.

In games where the gens fly by, the killer only had one or two hooks and they couldn't stop the survivors, that is when the survivors get punished for not doing bones. It does its job by providing the killer a much needed boost when they couldn't do anything.

In long games, where a survivor dcd/suicided, the killer has a slowdown build or the killer has just put on a lot of pressure, but the survivors managed to make it to the end game by playing well, then I think it's a crutch and overpowered perk as the survivors didn't have time to do bones or they'd risk losing.

Additionally, in games where the killer just plays bad, such as committing way too long for chases, camping/tunneling when there was no need, or overall just making alot of mistakes, while I can blame the survivors for not doing the totems, it does reward the killer for playing poor

But that's just my opinion on it, I'm in favour of it being nerfed somewhat, but not to the extent that it becomes useless.

I play solo que

the only times i've seen NOED used is in two builds; the endgame build and the toxic build

the endgame build I actually really love, because an underpowered killer suddenly has location, instadown, bloodwarden, it's chaotic and tense which is something DBD is not.

However, I see the toxic build more often, where killers slug and play Freddy and do that little head nod.

I don't have a high opinion of NOED but that's not because of the perk, more of the people that use it.

The killer is losing, they used a perk that required no buildup and without warning they suddenly won and act like they just won the ######### superbowl. Being toxic and acting better than everyone else.

Both are right, but we must consider one thing

You cannot compel players in PvP games to make decisions based on chance, this totally destroys the ability of good players to make good decisions and be rewarded for their strategies.

What exactly do Bones currently do? Nothing, give you points

Within the current 78 killer perks, do you require players to stop everything they are doing (healing, removing traps, saving on hooks, making generators) to start looking for totems that may or may not have Noed? This is completely unfair and counter intuitive

Do you want survivors to make totems? so give a solid reason for it.

Decisive strike rewards survivors for getting hooked and getting downed again. Resilience and Iron Will reward you for taking damage (since no noise is quieter than breathing). Blood warden rewards the killer for only hooking in the endgame and not for the rest of the game. Boil Over rewards the survivor for being carried by the killer. Unbreakable, Flip Flop, and Power struggle all reward you for being downed. Dead Man's Switch, Rancor, Bitter Murmur, and Coup de Grace all reward you for letting gens go.

So why don't I see complaints about those perks? Almost all of which come into play before the endgame and can't be completely removed?

Neither, Noed is a bad perk that punishes Killers by wasting a perk slot for an effect that does nothing for 99% of the match, and then either gets destroyed or doesnt even activate anyways.

I want to talk about a specific situation where I hate NOED. You load into a match, you or a team mate are found by the killer. The killer commits to the survivor totally leaving gens and just focusing on said survivor. If I am the survivor who is being chased I want gens done as quickly as possible so that the time I have ran the killer means something. If my team mate is running the killer I want to do gens as soon as possible so they can maybe escape. Now you may say "Well just get the survivor off the hook and carry on" but if you have been in the situation as survivor most likely the killer now has a bee in their bonnet and wants that one survivor dead. So with the information I have and guessing the killer actions I am not going to go around the map looking for totems, I am going to do my best to get the objective done so that survivor can escape. Like I said, this is one specific situation but when NOED pops is utterly annoying. This is where I hate the perk because the killer will throw the match for one survivor and even though they made the bad choice I doing so they know they can use NOED as back up. Also I am going to assume you're asking "well just leave or find the totem" sometimes the survivor could be hooked by the lit totem and its over. I also wouldn't want to leave the survivor to die on hook just because they did well and got done over by a crap perk.

When I myself play killer I don't bring NOED because in my eyes if I didn't have control of the match before gens popped then that's on me. Sometimes gens get popped and that's ok. Either way people will use what perks they want however if you are a killer that uses the best perks (BBQ, NOED, POP, etc) then you should expect it from the other side too.

I see it as a bit of both. More so the latter. It sucks if you haven't been hit the entire match and then get one shotted and hooked, but that's also how life is lol.

Not either of the choices really. noed is just frustrating

i think its a good perk for starting out as a killer but when you get better at the game you dont really need it because more than half of the time you wont get to end game. I just wish survivors would stop being babies and stop complaining about it. its fine and it does what its meant to do

I can't vote because I agree on both answers. And I speak as a 2000+ hr player! As a Killer I feel relieved I can get those pesky tea-bagging survivors down at the game's end. And also I feel great to punish Survivors for not "cleansing totems"!

Then they dare call me noob for clubbing them down! Double satisfaction and I am happy the devs have included No One Escapes death! 😝

Something I won't ever get it is how in Identity V a game Behaviour help make they managed to add no ed in the game through the form of detention although it only lasts for 120 seconds instead of until a separate objective is complete. Survivors expect there to be no ed at the end of the game and deal with it accordingly yes its annoying when the killer manages to grasp a win just because of no ed but instead of blaming the killer I see survivors blame themselves for making mistakes that lead to the killer winning. I should point out that a majority of these games are solo queue so there was little communication between the players . Honestly the community needs to change their attitude to no ed first and then they need to learn how to deal with no ed. It isn't impossible other games and other people have done it.

I voted for no ed rewarding killer for failing their objective because the way it is done right now is just that. Until the community changes their attitude and learn how to counter it then it will stay like a reward for killers who failed their objective.

I always said NOED needs a buff since it will then force more survivors to do bones which is good since gen speeds is a problem. And longer gen time is too boring for us survivors, so perhaps buff the movement speed even more.