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This game can be really unpleasant
So just had a game where they survivors all brought petrified offerings and the hooks were miles apart and they just ran around trying to body block and flashlight save.
Now I'm no stranger to the bully squad, this game is rife with these kinds of people but I'm just kinda tired of having to deal with game after game of really unpleasant people to play with.
Its not about winning the game its about having fun and this kind of garbage is just not fun.
When I see three flashlights I equip lightborn and franklins and get ready for what is going to probably be a really crappy game.
I should have dodged the lobby, I knew it was going to be a crapfest. Now I 4k'd but only because I felt an intense sense of "these pricks need to be taught a lesson". But I shouldn't have to do that when playing a game for fun, it made me just as toxic as they were so really everyone loses in that scenario.
We get to the post game screen and I'll forgo the vitriolic chat and abuse leveled at me for bringing lightborn and franklin's (god forbid I should bring perks that ruin this grief squads fun). What really struck me were ranks though 1 rank 16 and 3x rank 4-1. Its clearly a smurf account bully squad trolling around for low level killers to just abuse.
I've never been more in favour of a solo mode against bots because sometimes this community is a rancid dumpster fire to play with.
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As a solo queue survivor I hate getting put into a group with these sorta people too, mostly because killers always assume I'm part of the squad.
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I get where folks are coming from but why do they always go into "and then I 4kd" like, lets be real, at least killing them is some vindication.
Usually when you get a bully squad they roll you too, and use like Springwood and Haddonfield offerings; and 4 man escape.
Still, I know it sucks. I often get groups like this and they railroad me into like a basement lockdown trapper or such and it's just blech, I would rather not.
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I mean my main problem with it is because of the matchmaking and imbalance between solo Q and SWF, it’s like such a slap in the face. You get like 10 potato squads in a row and then you face seal team 6 out of nowhere.
At least if it was consistent it would be a little less unexpected to get rolled in ~4 minutes when you are screwing around playing clown or something
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Swf has to exist because toxic killer strategies like face camping and hard tunneling exist. The devs need to deal with all these toxic strategies on both the killer side and survivor side
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Oooh, I see we are still getting those salty killer tears I love so much.
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An epiphany we all have at one point.
I pretty much refuse to play killer on Friday evenings and through the weekend because of this kind of behaviour from survivors.
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Me to and I realise I'm making a bit of an assumption here, which I try not to do, but at the same time every member of the team was involved in the bad play all together and all were getting salty at the end. So I feel I'm probably on th emoney this time thinking it sa smurf squad.
Typically if I'm not part of that crap I'll call it out post game as solo survivor just because I don't want to see it from either side.
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Its just the typical outcome from games like this. Bully squad groups are really bad at the game, they are giving the killer free pressure by not doing their objectives and if the killer knows even the basics its usually not hard to eventually get them all.
The point is even if you win its still not that fun. I don't care about thrashing these people I'd rather not play with them at all.
I'd say an immersive game where I get outplayed and don't get a single kill but felt it was a nail biter and close, is a far better game than 10 mins of bully squad BS.
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SWF is not inherently toxic and a loss really isn't that bad of a thing. Yes it can be broken but it doesn't solely exists to grief you.
A game of really good coordinated SWF is almost and auto loss which speaks volumes about how broken it is but its very different game from a grief squad who are there to ruin your fun and you kinda suss out pretty quickly which one you are facing.
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Yeah I get the feeling there are a lot of kids online during these times and we all know playing with angry children is about as crappy as it gets.
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Here is a great example of a person no one wants to play with.
We all know that one person we don't invite to boardgame night because they aren't fun to game with.
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I don’t care about the kids. I care about the sweat lords. They make this game far too exhausting.
A slashed wrist would be a much more pleasurable experience.
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Agreed. And I speak as someone who has played this game since it dropped on PS4 back in 2017.
I would say it's the worst player-base of any game I have ever played (I understand other communities are bad, but this is a personal opinion).
I recently decided to complete the current pass and then go full casual on DBD. This is something I've attempted to do for sometime, but I kept bouncing back. But this time, I have other games, interests and responsibilities to accommodate my time.
Playing killer is just an eye-rolling chore the majority of the time. The poor matchmaking, coupled with the behaviour/attitude of a large chunk of the players, make one feel apprehensive to play DBD for extended periods.
I would enjoy bots too. Although there wouldn't be nowhere near as much challenge, at least you could kick back and relax. And it would be nice to have match without a teabag or a flashlight click.
I play against bots on For Honor and it's FAR more fun than playing against real players.
But that's the nature of online gaming: once some players know a particular trick or tactic, they exploit it in to the ground. And if it wins them matches, why shouldn't they?
And then you get the little darlings who boast about how they looped/blinded the killer all match and made him quit. They even make videos about it. It's all so...tiresome.
So for me, without the pass, and the collection of mediocre skins and useless charms, there will no urgency to grind away.
I believe games should be fun experience, not something done out of necessity.
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I'm only here just to play devils advocate but wouldn't you rather face this than have all the survivors actually sweat?
I don't know if they were doing gens or not but from the sounds of what your saying it seems like they weren't. If that's the case then it's better then doing this than all working on separate gens trying to gen rush you.
If they got someone to create a smurf account though then that's just extremely annoying to hear. Only you will know if that rank 16 was actually good (I.e smurf) or actually a bad player but was friends with this team.
Me personally I hate the term bully squad. Just because of the fact that if they weren't messing around then you'd probably be complaining about getting gen rushed.
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No I wouldn't.
I'm sorry if you find the term bully squad irksome but if you hop onto a game with the sole intention of trying to grief other players and make them quit then that's what you are.
My feelings on competitive vs casual play or gen repair speeds is irrelevent to the point being made.
I like to play casually and immersively, I don't expect everyone to play the same as me nor should I. But I'd rather face a coordinated sweat squad who blasted through the game than be stuck online with a bunch of griefers dragging it out for their own personal enjoyment at my expense.
A rank 16 with all meta perks unlocked and maxed on an unrelated character who is right in the middle of the group doing their all to be unpleasant is a good candidate for a smurfing accusation, that's an assumption on my part but I'd say a pretty solid one, based on their in game and post game behaviour.
Its pretty easy to tell when you have legit people just trying to play, you often get one person who really isn't good at the game and one or two trying their best to proect them and get your attention. Its rarely in your face obnoxious and its pretty obvious who they are trying to protect.
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There's a fierce resistence to the idea of bots or even solo play modes in online pvp games. I often find that I have more fun cranking out a couple of casual games against AI then I do trying to win one over other people. I play a lot of solo battlefront as often the queue times are awful and people only ever want the one play mode which gets old quickly.
It doesn't need to be an extensive story or campaign, just a custom play mode where you chuck a few AI's in and play around with a funny build or a new killer. It would never replace the main game but a few solo challenges for BP's could make it an interesting addition.
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Multiplayer's game means you play with others Persons around the world and that means sometimes you will win and sometime you will loose . sometimes you play solo and sometimes you play with your friends or your family . everyone need to understand it.
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I think we all know definition of multiplayer.
It doesn't strictly mean a game with a primarily multiplayer focus can't have a single player mode. In fact many of them do, even if they are just practice modes or custom games modes that have no in game progression attached to them. I've derived a lot of joy out of solo play modes on many multiplayer games and often pick up games like that based on whether there is a solo play component. This is especially true if none of my friends are interested in playing it. A lot of them aren't interested in DBD due to the gaming online with strangers 'PUG' element.
I'm not sure what your point is.
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You can just gg and leave. It's what I typically do when they try to start something. They're not worth the time.
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my point is : crying over a perk , items , offerings as a killer or survivor ( i play both sides) aswell as gen rush , tunnel , camp , slug ... and i forgot some exemple is childish ... we all know its unfun , boring ( insert what you want in ) BUT its a part of the game , and you knew it when you bought the game and you still playing it , like me , like the others here on the forum. to reply @ other game modes, i m ok with bots to practice ( only practice) i'm open to casual and a ranked one but im not open to 2V8 as it ( i mean the need to rework all maps ) it may be too hard for devs to rework te whole game ( perks , mechanics , and maps )
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I'm not sure you understand what this thread is about.
No one is crying over perks, items or offerings or any of the things you've mentioned.
We are talking about player behaviour and motivation with respect to intentionally trying to ruin someone elses game by not engaging in the objectives of the game and purely trying to grief other players.
Also when teams deliberately use a low level team mate to get easier games so they can indulge in griefing with little to no consequence.
When the actual multiplayer element of the game is crappy then a solo play mode can offer a remedy to that scenario.
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I always enjoy killer at that time. It’s when all the newer players come on. Even after a bad match most survivors are nice since I main billy now
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Just so you know matchmaking isn’t based off the highest rank
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I know its why smurfing works.
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But maybe they aren't intending on you DC'ing. Again it all depends o how they do it. If they aren't doing gens and are only messing around with you, knowing that at least 3 are going to die then I don't call that a bully squad. It's just them messing around with the items and perks they have, rather than do gens and escape within 4 minutes. I see it just the same as a killer doing a build like slug build or basement build.
On the part about smurfing then your probably right. I wasn't in the game so I can't tell you otherwise. Them having full meta perks could just be a player who hasn't played in a while and is only getting back into the game.
Also I didn't realise your name was Chris. Hi Chris!
Your now the 10th Chris I know lol you should feel honoured 😁
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I’m jealous. In my region it seems every survivor is preparing for the defining moment of their gaming careers. It’s just too exhausting.
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Weird I play in red ranks in EU
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Same, it's more idiots than it is sweatlords
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They brought petrified oak offerings, that would have been the first indicator of what they intended on doing. Usually you look around before you pick up in case someone is waiting to sabo or take hits. Just the same as if someone had a flashlight.
That isn’t ‘bullying’ the killer. Its playing the game. Regardless of how anyone reacts in post match chat, that is literally using items/features available in the game.
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I hate people that try to destroy the others fun just because. If they all brought these offerings, what they did was intended. Why try to bully the killer like that? Speaking for myself, I just want to play the game for fun. I'm not a good killer, I know, so I get into matches and try my best, but with people tbagging, trying to flashlight me at every turn, going out of their way to bodyblock and be toxic, sometimes when I haven't even hooked a single survivor, give me a break.
I try to never dodge a lobby. I usually ready up and sometimes don't even see what people I get in the lobby, what items they have or what offerings were used (and this is valid for both roles, if the wait times are big, I go do something else and come back when the match is about to start). I know people see the game in different ways, but I can't see the fun in trying to be mean to other players on purpose, be it playing as a survivor, a killer or sending hate messages after a match.
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I know this question isn't address to me, but personally, I would always prefer the team that does the gens fast and leaves. It's not a very fun game, but it doesn't feel malicious.
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Well that's fair enough mate. I'd prefer the so called "bully squad" because I know I'll beat them.
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Again this discussion has nothing to do with complaining about perks, offerings or items. I can't stress this enough almost anything is fine in game and you should expect anything.
I'm talking about a playstyle where the goal of the survivors is to not do gens but rather taunt and grief the killer. These games often drag on and aren't very fun to play. Usually they also have the saltiest most abusive survivors post game.
Please re-read the original post, I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer. Cheers.
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I'd agree with your point if they tried to do any gens at all, but they just wanted to taunt. It was rather sad.
There is nothing wrong with petrified offerings or trying to make a save they are part of the game, and I'm happy to play it but it was clear from the get go these people didn't want a game of DBD they wanted a low level killer to just bully till they quit and when they got me instead, they had a post game meltdown at me for not letting them bully me.
This is not the game as it should be and isn't much fun to face.
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Yeah its not always malicious, in fact I'd say most times when people feel its malicious its often just they got outplayed and 'gen rushed' as it were.
This was very different and quite obvious of the team's intent from the get go making it a less pleasant game experience.
I'll tip my hat to those who outplay me even crushingly so, but to just run around taunting, clicky click and not doing objectives was just tedious.
If someone had said "hey we just wanted to farm" in the endgame it would put it in the different light and my response would have "sorry I didn't want to farm glhf next game" but that definitely wasn't the tone.
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I chalk it up to sometimes people in this game are unpleasant, not the game itself. Personally I try to play in a way that won't blatantly piss off the other player(s) if not needed. Id rather keep the game fun and enjoyable than being a tryhard that makes others miserable. Of course I'll try to win but I don't like using cheeky methods to win
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It's hard, but I think the best way to handle it is to just give them the benefit of the doubt and just assume they are all working on the same ritual or challenge. I've found I can focus better on beating them if I go into such games with such a mindset.
The mechanics are there - i really don't have a right to be mad that somebody wants to use those mechanics - especially if I know of ways to play off them and beat them (faking pickups, equipping certain perks or addins, facing walls, ect)
Takes time and persistence to have the mental fortitutde to just tough it out. And sometimes you just have to be willing to say to yourself "I can't deal with this tonight" and just put the game down in favor of something else for awhile.
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I'm well aware of this and its a very good point. I was looking forward to playing some dbd though and it just got under my skin. Two crummy matches and then this group of twats and I thought that's it I'm done.
The reason I'd like a solo challenge mode is that even if its a night like this I can still play some DBD and enjoy myself without sweat stressing or hitting it hardcore and without dealing with people like this when I'm really not in the mood.
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I had a group this weekend. Sent me to the meat plant. All 4 had some combo of these 6 perks; Iron Will, DS, DH, Unbreakable, Soul Guard, and deliverance). Key, ranger medkit with instaheal. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought, but they did all get out. No big deal.
After the game of course, I got gg ez baby killer. I laughed actually because I was actually having mostly good games besides that one. But to your point, more than likely I was playing against some teenagers.
It really would be nice to have a filter on games to play with adults only. Adults obviously can be jerks too (I have been plenty), but I'm guessing the majority of my hate mail is from teens or younger that can't take a loss with dignity or win with grace.
Again, not to say I've been perfect either, but it can definitely get old getting hated or laughed on for just trying to play a game on your spare time.
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More than likely they're not teens lmao its actually people old enough to know better who act like this
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Anyway cheers for the discussion folks, I just wanted to vent some thoughts and throw my hat in the ring for a solo mode yet again.
I'm off to focus on something more positive.
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This is where you slug them all and force them to crawl to a hook.
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