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Is it toxic to slug the whole team?

gatsby
gatsby Member Posts: 2,533

I had a Twins game with an obvious SWF that was going for sabo plays and flashy saves. After they succeeded getting the first save, I said screw it and slugged the whole team. They couldn’t flashy save or sabo if I never picked up another Survivor.

Decided to end the game with zero hook at 4 gens and let them all bleed out on the floor after Victor destroyed their whole toxic ass team.

Is that toxic? Or is it deserved?

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  • Shaped
    Shaped Member Posts: 5,996

    No if you don't bm.

  • gatsby
    gatsby Member Posts: 2,533

    I just tabbed out and watched Netflix and came back when they were all dead

  • JediWithASniper
    JediWithASniper Member Posts: 672

    I’m a survivor main. Probably in the minority, but I don’t think slugging is toxic. It’s a valid strategy. However, it’s not much fun for survivors. I think the devs should adjust the hooking score to be based on how quickly a person is hooked so that it encourages less slugging.

    Basically, just something simple like if you hook:

    0-15 seconds you get max hooking score

    16-30 seconds you get a lower hook score

    31-45 seconds is less, and so on down to a minimum score.

  • JPA
    JPA Member Posts: 1,685

    When you have a team that is attempting aggressive saves to the point of not touching gens and just floating around to flash/pallet/DS stun you then bleeding them out is a valid strategy

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,800

    Not if they let you, you are only punishing them for being out of position.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    It depends.

    If survivors actively swarm around for bodyblocks or flashlight/sabo plays then slugging the entire team is just your direct reaction to their actions.

    If you're -on the other hand- playing the typical 0%-skill-slug-them-all Nurse (aka most Nurse players) then spin on my slugged body for 3 minutes and 59 seconds before picking me up just so you can bm me a few more seconds by slapping me on the hook while nodding like crazy then yeah, you're toxic.

  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,304

    I only slug it I end up tunneling the survivor who just got off the hook. Aint my problem if you were the closest person / first person I find after you were saved, consider my slugging as compensation.

    Not toxic to slug a few, although leaving all 4 on the floor is a bit iffy tbh.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    No, just boring and awkward when playing vs

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,698

    Part of me thinks it's the survivors fault if they all managed to get slugged at once

    But there are also some killers who will do nothing but slug until everyone's down. Killing everyone on 1st hook

    I guess that's what anti-slugging perks are for, it's not very enjoyable though.

  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,621

    Any team that sabos is saying, "I don't like hooks please slug me".

  • aEONoHM
    aEONoHM Member Posts: 208

    I HATE being slugged and seeing the whole team get slugged, but I have to admit it's a viable strategy. The only thing a killer does in the game that I consider toxic is hitting survivors on the hook.

  • dspaceman20
    dspaceman20 Member Posts: 4,699

    Since when is trying to sabo a hook or use a flashlight to save your teammates toxic?

    You slugged them and let them bleedout instead of hooking them, I would say your in the wrong and your toxic.

  • Eve13
    Eve13 Member Posts: 375

    Often not all are members of the supposedly toxic SWF team. Sometimes I play on PC and how often I read in endgame chat that we were a sucky SWF team, even though I'm almost exclusively soloing, is enormous just because we play matched. 

    So when a killer just bludgeons everyone because he thinks everyone is toxically harassing him, it just sucks. 

    I know the killer is not responsible for the survivors having fun. But as I always say the other way around, we are playing 4 vs 1 here - there is no AI in the game, most are playing DBD for fun. And if you want to play like a - special human - find an AI. 

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398
    edited March 2021

    It's not toxic, and what they were doing wasn't toxic either.

    And also, why do you care if it's toxic or not, you're still gonna play this way in the future, you don't need to create a thread to get people to validate the way you play and say it's fine, play however you want. Unless all you wanted to do was add another "survivor bad" thread to the pile. The "obvious SWF" and calling them a "toxic ass team" gives off that vibe

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,618
    edited March 2021

    Sounds like you adapted to the situation and beat them at their own game.

    Only letting them bleed out seemed unnecessary.

    I wouldn't mind being left to bleed out, but that might just me being more tolerant than the average player.

    Idk, just play within the game's official rules and you'll be fine.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    It is toxic (as you fight their toxic playstyle with your own = more toxicity overall) but who cares, if someone annoys you, you're free to kill them in any way you see fit.

    In their case it's deserved but that doesn't make that playstyle any less toxic. Personally, I enjoy 4 man slugging from time to time just because it's so different from the 12 hook "desired" playstyle. If devs didn't want you to play slugging builds they wouldn't print slugging perks.

  • Xayrlen
    Xayrlen Member Posts: 329

    Don't be surprised to find out these people are afk afterwards.

  • IWasLeft2Die
    IWasLeft2Die Member Posts: 2,405

    You can slug thats totally fine. I did it recently against a 4 man squad of all flashlights who were swf and each had DS which was also very frustrating.


    Personally I'd rather just hook them as I can mostly so I don't needlessly depip or safety pip. If someone gets off hook after first hook one way or another I'd much more likely slug that specific survivor to avoid DS and other bs.

  • Idontknowtbh
    Idontknowtbh Member Posts: 472

    Or a quadruple DC. They're gonna get a depip regardless

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,882

    I'd say its toxic when they are all down and you can hook them, but don't. Seems toxic to let them all bleedout.

  • Afius
    Afius Member Posts: 563

    If you have the opportunity to slug all 4 it's completely understandable but if you go out of your way it's kind of a jerk move but from the sounds of it it was well deserved so props to you.

  • Slugging viable as a strategy to win the game but forcing everyone wait to bleed out is like old survivors refusing to leave against a bad killer imo its toxic

  • stikyard
    stikyard Member Posts: 592

    Sabo and saves is skilled team playing. On one side, they weren't gen rushing you and it's very risky to play this way, (also very fun).

    Slugging them is fine, leaving them to bleed is toxic.

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    No. You do you. Avoid the word "toxic" for anything in-game. The only toxic behavior is in post game chat.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,168

    No, it's survivors job to avoid the killer and strategically pick up teammates to prevent themselves being placed in the same situation.

  • ProfGameAndTalk
    ProfGameAndTalk Member Posts: 326

    Their fault for letting themselves get 4-man slugged. You did fine.

  • WheresTheGate
    WheresTheGate Member Posts: 576

    It's all about perspective. One person may find slugging incredibly toxic, another may not. That doesn't necessarily make either of them right or wrong. Take my personal preference for example. As a survivor main slugging is the thing I hate most in this game. If it happened much more than it already does I would quit playing the game altogether because I get no enjoyment out of a match where I'm slugged. So if I call slugging toxic I am correct, but only from my personal perspective. However, my personal opinion in no way is the measuring stick for whether or not something is toxic in general. Neither is anyone elses.

    In other words..... if you aren't breaking any rules you can play however you want to play. It's irrelevant if someone thinks it's toxic.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,599

    I wouldn't go so far as to just let them bleed out once they are all down. I'd go ahead and hook them if at all possible. (if they crawled to a spot where it's impossible for you to hook them, well fair game then - let them bleed)

    But the act of slugging itself is not toxic - it's a mechanic. Just because some people find it boring doesn't make it any less valid.