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Jason for DBD.

We have Myers, Freddy, Ghost Face (not Ghostface), and Leatherface. All we're missing now is Jason. Can't Cunningham just quit launching lawsuits and help us get what we want?

And Friday The 13th The Game's servers are dead, so don't even bring up Jason having his own game. Seriously, you think we have it bad on DBD? Take the queue times and triple them on good days; quintuple them on bad days.

Jason for DBD.

Jason for DBD.

Jason for DBD.

The schmecksy voice is required or I'm gonna... well, I'm not going to do anything, but I will be mad! I'll still buy it though... :Pensive:

Jason for DBD.

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Both parody videos are by THE MERKINS.


Comments

  • poomanchu
    poomanchu Member Posts: 242

    If Jason were to come to DBD, what would his power/perks be?

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583

    Jason is just Trapper with LESS gameplay.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Getting a power for Jason would be as simple as looking at his own game and pulling ideas. Teleporting using the mist; walking right through dropped pallets and breakable walls; seeing survivors' auras for a set period of time. They could all be power ideas, and none of them were OP in F13th, a game that survivors only had one chance in once the already rare pocket knives ran out. But yeah, someone would find some reason to call map pressure OP.

    You got it backward, buddy.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Revealing your body to Leatherface? Might not be the smartest choice, but good luck.

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    Jason is a big guy in a mask that uses a machete.

    Trapper is a big guy in a mask that uses a machete and can strategically place traps around the map.


    Show me how I got that backwards.

  • poomanchu
    poomanchu Member Posts: 242

    Jason could have a stalk ability similar to Myers, but the more he stalks the slower the survivor gets. So he would have a 110 speed always. Survivors would have stalk meters, that would count down similar to the Trickster knives as they are being stalked. Getting a full meter on survivor means they are basically walking, until they get hit. Of course it would degrade over time, to avoid just stalking everyone to walking speed, and slugging them all.


    The perks would take more thought.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Jason is the original big guy with a cooler mask and machete that can do what Spirit, Freddy, Trapper, Huntress, and Trickster can do, but better. He also has built-in Spirit Fury. Now, of course, having it all would be OP, but being able to teleport in front of survivors during a chase using the mist would be good. And so it isn't countered like Nurse, you would see Jason following you until he has successfully teleported. He would also have his Rage ability, but in DBD, he would ignore all pallet stuns, could walk directly through breakable walls, and would give survivors no sprint burst upon a successful attack. Yes, it can work with STBFL.

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    Jason has no supernatural powers whatsoever outside of his physical prowess. He has never teleported in any movie. This sounds like some weird attempt to jank in his video game mechanics into Dead By Daylight.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,939

    i have a feeling @Slashstreetboy would approve of this message...

    :'(

  • Dehitay
    Dehitay Member Posts: 1,726

    Miller only has the rights to Jason a child which isn't the iconic killer DbD would use. It should be possible for BHVR to get the rights to the adult killer Jason. However, the one way to garuntee a copyright dispute would be to balantantly rip off the F13 game.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Pretty much every slasher has the ability of regeneration. Jason however, is one of two that can come back to life after dying (the other being Freddy). Also, considering how slow Jason moves-pretty much power walking-there is no feasible way for him to around at such a rate that he does.

    That's why I mentioned pulling ideas in a previous comment. Jason is, imo, the only slasher we have that could be considered an unstoppable killing machine, so he has to reflect that if he ever gets a spot in the game. Since he shrugs off anything other than being blown up, plowing through wooden pallets shouldn't be much of an issue.

  • Once the lawsuit is over Jason most likely will be added

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    Regeneration is a pointless power in a game where the worst Survivors can do to a Killer is a flashlight blind or a pallet stun.

  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    The truth is that many of those who do not love Jason are the same ones who do not love anyone from the Slasher or Springtrap genre in other cases and who prefer original content. Mathieu Cote has stated that DbD is a clear tribute to the Slasher genre. And the latter wants Jason. Also as I follow the lawsuit, I found out that Miller follows the official Dead by Daylight account and the developers. I have my suspicions that they may have settled but with this lawsuit ongoing. I see it impossible right now, Jason if he was in Dead by Daylight, but not now, not tomorrow.

    Talking about powers or perks is the problem of the community when they refuse to love said character. The only thing they care about is bug fixes and cosmetics, if you want a power-up for Jason, he can break through walls or be another stalking killer.

  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    In fact, if he teleports and in Games he is reflected in Mortal Kombat traveling through the Mist. You say it because you have no idea how it could work, just like people who think that Alien does not fit, Candyman neither, Chucky less and in the end it ends up coming to light as a playable character.

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    You can MAKE anything work. They could code it so every time Jason lands an M1 party streamers shoot out of his ears.


    Doesn't mean he should, or that it makes any sense.


    If you are trying to cite Mortal Kombat, you are already scraping the barrel.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Personally, I only found Jason v Freddy, Jason In Space, and Jason In Manhatten to be bad movies. The 2009 reboot was meh too, but the rest of the movies are the definition of a slasher flick.

  • Grimmy_Bluues
    Grimmy_Bluues Member Posts: 354
    edited March 2021

    If people are worried about what the power would be, just use his insane durability and ability to appear seemingly out of nowhere.

    Example: Getting stunned, flashlighted, and bodyblocked fills your power. Once your Power becomes active, see the auras of all survivors for a short time. During this time, you may press the power button to appear a set distance from a survivor you look at in whichever direction they are moving/facing.

    Also, while the power is active, getting a pallet dropped on you will instead have you lift the pallet back with one hand with a shorter recovery and you can instantly go through breakable walls.


    Just a small idea of what he could possibly do, devs could definitely make it better too.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    You just said Jason has no supernatural abilities, yet he has been shown to have several, either being directly shown, like in all the games and some comics, or being suspected in the films.

    Also, you defended Trapper when he has no supernatural abilities. Come to think of it, most of the killers in the game don't have powers. Only 5 do. Those being Nurse, Hag, Doctor, Freddy, and Spirit. Other killers have otherworldly powers-like Hillbilly-, or they rely on a supernatural object like Wraith. That or they have no power like Trapper or Slinger.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Jason grabbing the pallet would be the most badass thing in the game.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632
    edited March 2021

    I will say I'm not a fan of the FNAF franchise or its possible inclusion in DBD, but as you said, this game exists as a tribute to the 70s-90s slasher flicks and for players to simulate what it would be like to be in a slasher icon's shoes.

    Not to get into my views on the lawsuit, but if Victor wins the lawsuit-and he should due to writing the story of the films-, then we'll most likely get him in the game. And thanks for your digging.

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    You have yet to name a single "power" from the films he has that would translate into this game that isn't covered already by a perk such as Brutal Strength. Brutal Strength, incidentally, being a Trapper perk.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    I think it's less "when" and more "if." If Cunningham never resents, then it'll just be an endless, albeit, pointless loop of lawsuits.

  • Grimmy_Bluues
    Grimmy_Bluues Member Posts: 354

    It would be absolutely terrifying. Imagine thinking you got a stun at a god pallet only to see him lift it back in place with one hand and keep chasing you.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632
    edited March 2021

    Jason has most of the same abilities as the killers we already have. At this point, the killers we are getting are just stand-ins for Jason.

    Teleportation is held by many killers.

    Jason can phase just like Spirit.

    Jason can throw hatchets and daggers just like Huntress and Trickster.

    He also has teleportation which other people have mentioned.

    He can also appear out of nowhere. Wait, that's the same as teleportation, but that's mentioned multiple times by me and others.

    He could easily do something with the lake and its mist as well.

    Also, walking through walls and pallets without Brutal Strength, nor is it even Spirit Fury, since no it would be pretty much instant, not requiring a stun or kick animation.

  • jester20k
    jester20k Member Posts: 827

    The second lawsuit is only about profits from the new movie, so shouldn't affect any potential licensing.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    I'm laughing at all the possible moments when a survivor will Dead Hard to a pallet and drop it only for it to be lifted right in front of them. That would make it into a lot of funny moment compilations.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    New movie? Other than fan films like "Never Hike Alone" and the upcoming "Jason Rising" there hasn't been a Friday The 13th movie since 2009.

  • ClownIsUnderrated
    ClownIsUnderrated Member Posts: 1,031

    I'll forever have anger towards Victor Miller since he was the one who basically killed Friday the 13th the game, and sadly the people who loved that game never got to receive Jason X. I honestly believe that jerk off doesn't really care about the fans

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583
  • Ecstasy
    Ecstasy Member Posts: 426

    Whaaaaaaaaat. Every movie you mention as bad are actually the good ones. The more serious the take, the worse the movie. Even the ones with psychic powers are pretty bleh.

    (As a matter of fact, the remake actually was the only remotely serious entry that was any good. I got much respect for Nespel's remaking 4 crappy movies into one decent movie that preserves all the iconic elements that make Jason into Jason when those elements are slowly added and the least of him)


    The thing most people don't admit about slashers is that most are seriously boring as #########.

    I'm a major horror aficionado--no doubt--though the biggest pop-culture horror icons actually tend to be some of the lamest characters in the genre when you get past their pivotal intro film... except Jason doesn't even have that going for him.

    Texas, Halloween, Nightmare. These are ######### classics. Genuinely brilliant films by some (not always, but more than once) brilliant directors. Hooper, Carpenter, and Craven.

    Friday the 13th is a whodunit revealing the killer as.... random ass lady who shows up at the end--a big ######### you to mystery presentation and setup. But it was effectively the Blair Witch / Paranormal Activity of its day: majorly cheap films to produce that ended up making major bank so sequels/imitations got pumped out like crazy. [Why was F13 such a hit? Uh, subconscious valuation of future Kevin Bacon? Tom Savini's practical effects? Hell if I know. It already was aping a well established genre... including 2 of those 3 iconic films mentioned above which actually are brilliant. Never really much sense.]

    Though, like F13, those other slasher got their goliath cultural status from going down to sequel down too. Though with the others (and their initial entries), you could retcon their sequels existence from reality and their premiere works would still make them lasting icons in the eyes of people like myself anyhow (maybe even moreso) due to the presence in horror history. It's really decades of bad films that give them culturally juggernaut status where people respect them even if they most of the movies would bore them to tears if they ever had to watch 'em.


    Even with Halloween, you could straight up burn every sequel after the first from existence and you won't lose a thing. (Personally, I'm damn sure speaking about Halloween 2 also, and those H20 and the H20-20 redux crap.... JLC be damned!). It's even more brilliant in a universe on its own without all the cultural baggage to the rest of the movies. It holds up so, so well.

    Exact same for most TCM flicks, well, mostly... I still put aside a warm spot for the 2nd flick as something so cheeky and hilarious (that breakfest club poster tells you everything!). But at least most TCM sequels aren't aggressively bad/boring like most Halloween ones there.

    Meanwhile NOES... well, okay that's actually the exception where sequels are mostly worth your time at least. I mean, 2 is a "hate it" at first entry but incredibly sub-textually rich in a way that absolutely redeems the cheese.... 3 is about as iconic for introducing that prime time charisma (though not the same unsettling actual horror anymore) and the others get progressively worse though actually hold out mostly as watchable.... then you get to "A New Nightmare" and it's actually on par with the first Nightmare film with an equally horror filled entry (even more-so) with this rich retake on manifesting dreams and thoughts into reality by going meta.

    And.... wow, okay I swept off topic from like paragraph 2 and went on a run to tangent town just rambling. I'm just gonna shut up now.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,025

    Honestly if we get Jason for the 5th anniversary, I wouldn't be surprised. It'd make everyone happy as well. Jason is like one of the most iconic slashers so...

    Wait...

    5th anniversary...

    5 slasher icons...

    4th anniversary had a Pyramid shape...

    4/5 are in, Myers, Freddy, Leatherface, and Ghostface, right?

    5th anniversary.

  • ProfoundEnding
    ProfoundEnding Member Posts: 2,334

    When I play Friday the 13th (at least on Xbox) I find full games of 8 players in less then a minute 95% of the time.

    It may have less players but at least the ques aren't broken.

  • Northener1907
    Northener1907 Member Posts: 3,012

    What about Chucky?

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Nah, you're good, talking about movies with people is fun.

    I find any super dumb follow-up that's just cheesy to be pretty boring. Jason In Space and Jason Takes Manhatten fit the bill perfectly, neither of them offering up much in the form of entertainment or making sense. Jason v Freddy was a fun watch. no doubt, and was a great tribute to fans of both franchises, but structurally it was a bad movie. I liked all of the 2010 slasher reboots, but Friday The 13th was the weakest imo. It didn't innovate on anything nor did it have even the slightest bit of story. The rest of the Friday films were connected by Tommy and people knowing Jason's history, but it kind of gets thrown out the window here.

    For A Nightmare on Elm Street, everything was good unless it has wacky stupidity like Freddy wearing sunglasses or having stretched arms. It is also the only 2010 reboot that I loved out of the slasher movies.

    Halloween was only good for every first entry. The original; Rob Zombie's first film; the first of the recent reboots. The Rob Zombie films were gritty which I enjoyed, and the recent reboot brought back Jamie Lee Curtis which everyone can appreciate.

    All of the TCM movies were either subpar or good. I never found any of them to be "amazing", but none of them were bad either.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632
    edited March 2021

    I wish. It'd be the only chapter I buy on launch day.

  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    Now that you mention it, this was the worst of all, Jason goes to hell.

  • CornHub
    CornHub Member Posts: 1,864

    Nah, Freddy vs. Jason was the worst. It wasn't even a horror movie instead people got baited into watching a bad action movie.

  • DetailedDetriment
    DetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    Yes, lol, but I can appreciate the attempt to bring two horror icons together in a film.