Don't get mad at the killer. This is an elimination game.
Our objective is to kill.
you survivors forget that this is a survival E L I M I N A T I O N game.
You are technically dead on first hook. It's not up to the killer to give you a second chance it's up to your teammates unless you slip off it.
Ensuring a player is eliminated early helps TONS because now there are 3 working on gens instead of 4. It's a legit strategy and I will not feel sorry for it.
If you don't like being eliminated early then this isn't the game for you. Elimination games are simply not fun in general for the player dying within seconds. It happens, nothing you can do about it.
Killers are just trying to win too and if we have to play dirty tactics to win so be it.
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I understand this. And everyone can play how they wish. But you can also play in a way that is more sportsmanlike than other styles. I recommend playing both sides and playing how you would hope the other side played towards you.
I mean, if you play this game long enough, eventually 4ks and 4 man escapes are going to happen so often that it is fun to play with out those outcomes being your only definition of a win. Tunneling and camping for the 4k or gen rushing for the 4 man out, is not as fun as an interactive game with lots of points where maybe it is a 2k /2 out game.
But, granted, this probably takes a switch in one's mindset and win definitions.
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Entitled killer main here.
If you can't win without tunneling/camping, you will never improve, I've been playing this game for far too long to not give a crap about how many kills I get.
If we go for your terms, survivors gen rushing and using really strong perks and items to allow them to do the same is fair.
If you want a depip squad that knows how to play you shouldn't complain when you lose to them.
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Cool! Do you keep this same energy for 4 man survivor groups with Prove Thyself, 4 BNP toolboxes, and Object?
After all, they're just trying to win by getting their objectives out of the way quick, too.
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What has become of these forums when I cant tell if this is low quality bait or an actual killer main...
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Most of the problems come from people not understanding the game. This goes for both roles but I will use my game from last night to explain this. I'm playing doc for first time in awhile because I got BBQ to finnally show up in my web so I didn't go in expecting to 4k but I am a try hard now so maybe lets see what happens. There doing well got there usual 3 gens quick and a 4th by killer shack had good progress so at this point in the game and good killer should know this is the time they need to look for any opening to swing the momentum. Now Steve was on death hook and still injured so static blast, scream, theres Steve, steve dead. Kick gen with pop to buy time. Meg wants a chase I got a good 30 seconds lets give it a go. She makes the mistake of going for the vault at killer shack and I get the lunge just in time and the basement was there. Remember there a gen with progress right outside of shack so why? i double check the progress, hook in basement and pop it. Now I can patrol this gen and the basement and lucky me another gen not far from the other side of shack and with static blast I know where the other two are coming from. So apparently this is proxy camping but I call it perfect tide shifting and poor Meg died down there because no teammate would swap hooks, had BT/would use it, or would even attempt to go down there and didn't work gens. So not my fault the whole team died right? Meg shouldn't be mad at me right? The survivors should be mad at themselves but how many times do they lash out at the killer. Same goes for when killers play like ######### then blame a survivor for cranking gens, having perks, or the funniest one looping lol.
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I have a great idea.....
Focus on your own game and stop caring about other people's opinions.
Ultimately, if you stop caring about what other people think and just focus on yourself, you'll have a ton less stress dealing with this game.
If you want to tunnel, camp, endlessly blind the killer, loop - have at it. It's on your opponent to stop you.
These unwritten rules that the mediocre players try to put on you so they can have a chill game are not-binding and shouldn't be expected of strangers. If you want to play with "house rules", stick with KYF.
Never expect a random to have the same viewpoint that you do.
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If that's your playstyle then by all means play like it.
But dont be crying 'genrushes' 'toxic' or 'crutch perks' because if you give this type of energy to survivors, they'll sure give it back to you.
But don't worry, I'm sure keeping this strategy up will have you uninstalling the game in a few months after you've bored yourself to death :)
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You do you but don’t complain about survivors doing their objective too
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I am trying to play both sides, and all I care about both sides are the 3k/3-man escape.
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A few direct quotes of yours from other threads:
"SWF is clearly a problem, why do devs continue nerfing killers and not addressing SWF?"
"This game wasn't balanced around SWF in the first place so it's not surprising to find out SWF destroys killers even if the killer is at the top of their game"
It's always a player with this thread's mindset that complains about the other side doing the same thing lol
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if you got links, put them in so we can roast this guy properly then.
Because frankly, I'm all for people playing hard and giving it their all - but they better be prepared to take it in return.
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Ahahaha
And the OP just lost all credibility.
Dude - until you man up and are willing to deal with SWF, you have no right to talk about playing hardcore yourself.
Get over yourself.
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"Don't get mad at SWFs. This is a survival game.
Our objective is to survive.
you killers forget that this is a S U R V I V A L game.
It's not up to survivors to give you time to hook everyone, it's up to you to prioritize your time.
Ensuring gens are done quickly helps TONS because now you have a better chance of a 4 man escape. It's a legit strategy and I will not feel sorry for it.
If you don't like gens popping quickly then this isn't the game for you. Genrushing is simply not fun in general for the killer trying to hook everyone. It happens, nothing you can do about it.
Survivors are just trying to win too and if we have to play dirty tactics to win so be it."
See how easy it is to recontextualize this argument?
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I'm a survivor main and I agree. I try to look from both perspectives to understand the issue of why killers camp, tunnel and slug. If the developers nerfed gen speeds, then It might be beneficial for the survivor as well. I also agree that survivors have many powerful meta perks to counter killers.
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I don't agree with this but the developers aren't going to nerf swf, they just need to nerf actions.
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Both sides have their pros and cons, just like you can see for both sides there are also killers like me that also see the survivors pov, it is just not fun to play the way the OP says.
But remember that nerfing gen speeds will most likely cause the game to feel worse for certain survivors.
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Been saying this for the longest time lol.
Killer's job is to kill. Survivor's job is to avoid detection, and if detected, win the chase. Whatever strategies, perk loadouts, etc either side uses to help them do that job is fair game. Plain and simple.
Tunneling/Camping/Slugging? Fair. Does it suck to be on the receiving end of it. Yeah, but it's still fair. Do better to not get caught next time.
Gen rush/god loops/OP perk loadouts/SWF? Fair. Sucks to be on the receiving end, but you still need to accept it, learn from it, and move on.
Stop caring about wins and losses, learn to appreciate and be content with the little successes, and most importantly, stop caring about how other people play. You'll soon find this game can be enjoyable 100% of the time with this mindset and you'll feel sorry for all the people bitching on the forums day after day about everything a killer or survivor does being toxic. Get over it or uninstall.
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I mean in any fighting game you have the right to play as the most overpowered dirty character you want to. But everybody knows there is no honor in it. When you use dirty tactics and play as OP characters you're basically signaling that you can't win with a balanced play style and you need all the help you can get to make the game as unfair in your favor as possible. But yes, you have the right to do so.
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I don't play for honor though I'm a killer
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My design will be good for all survivors. The concept I had was to take 10 seconds off per survivor on a gen. If there are two survivors on a gen then the gen will be 70 seconds. Killers have to run gen defence to counter gens and now survivors will have to do the same. prove thyself will be 10% but also works with yourself. (With this perk, gens are 72 seconds by default).
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Sounds like you're trying to take the easiest route you can and will never get better at the game, or even be rewarded for it because the rank system and bloodpoint system both punish tunneling and camping.
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