Third Party Services and your thoughts on them.

I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I never really thought much about it before, but you are right in saying that the game was not designed for this specifically. I mean, now that I think of it, it actually is pretty unfair for the killer. But I am not sure how you would fix this. Would you completely nerf it or get rid of it? Or somehow give the killer something when against SWF groups to compensate? It is also a very hard thing to fix because most SWF groups love using voice chat to play with each other.

Honestly, the best solution to this I have heard so far is to enable proximity voice chat in the game. But it doesn't take a genius to say what is wrong with that. I believe the levels of toxicity in this game rival the salt from RUST, and that is saying something. But you know what? On the serious side, voice proximity chat would allow better solo queue coordination in general and since the killer would hear them, abrupt intervention by the killer would prevent them from communicating properly making stealth killers and stealth powerful because they could spy on survivors for information.

Voice proximity chat is definitely a very scary thing (for most people since a lot of children) because of the sheer toxicity that can come from it. I can already hear it now: "Toxic piece of poop camper" or "f-bombing duckhead". However, the only thing stopping proximity chat from being in-game I believe is the fear of toxicity. I myself could handle a 25-year-old man or woman cussing me out in-game (I mean they already do in other games lmao), but could a mentally unstable person or young child handle it? Probably not, and that is scary which is why it makes it hard to implement.

Not ideal, but another quick solution is simply just don't be pissed if you lose against an SWF. You know they are an SWF, you know it is hard, so then just accept that they will most likely easily win.

Maybe they should add voice chat communication like e.g. in Counter Strike. Then all survivors, even solo, could talk to each other.

If players having a very hard time against survivors friends, i guess DBD team will have to delete the option to play with friends completely and will only give that option in a custom game.

But from a realistic point of view it can not really happen.

The only thing i can think of is blocking the possibility of using third party service like Discord to avoid communication. but it can open controversy.

4 coordinated Solos will give you a hard time as well. Solos who are decent at the game will most likely be more efficient when they are playing Solo than playing in an SWF, because you cannot trust randoms.

I will not vote for anything, since the votes are either saying it is an issue (which it isnt in my opinion), implementing it into the game, which will be highly annoying or simply state that I dont play Killer.

The thing is, DBD has the lack of information built into the core of the game. Using comms is a huge boost, where it shouldn't be. But I don't know how to fix it. I am not sure if it is even possible to fix it.

The quick message stuff can do its magic with rather few messages. Identity V has it too and it works quite well.

A single "focus generators" can also mean " i'm camped" when said by a hooked survivor. Heh, i bet that would be the most used message anyways.

Edit:

We cant get rid of CWF, that train departed ages ago. But a quick message system would lessen the swf gap without buffing the swf.

Although, the killer compensation still gotta happen then.

SWF is the unholy bargain at the core of DBD. From a balance POV, no one should have ever been alllowed to use comms, but they were -- I would guess, for marketing reasons. So, now it's a thing that always happens and it would be hard to take it away.

I get what people are saying about how proximity chat could solve the problem, but there are lots of reasons why people choose not to play games that have voice comms. One being that strangers will harass you -- particularly if your voice identifies you as a woman. Or maybe you just don't want to talk to people constantly while you play (me).

It's sad, because I think part of what's fun about the idea of this game is NOT being able to communicate well, so that coordination is more of a guessing game/challenge.

about the kidnapping Victor, i hate it as survivor as well. by doing that you are not working on gen, not saving people from hook and are just making the game a 3v1... and remove the fun part of the facing Twins situation... + it's stupid because after a while Charlotte can just call Victor back so you are wasting everyone time by doing so.