Killers who tunnel
Why? I have played for 5 hours today and every single game I have gotten tunneled. I’m just trying to get my adept. I don’t have decisive and I’m not planning on getting it either because it’s getting nerfed. I went from rank 3 to rank 7 in just one day and I just want to get 1 normal game. Please stop tunneling.
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Ds will still be anti tunneling perk. You can only derank that much if you suicide, rage quit or don't try enough.
I play solo too and I know some games can be tough but you can stay in 1-3 range if you at least try.
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I haven't been in the dbd community all that much in the past few months, who said Decisive Strike was getting nerfed?
Also, why mention it if you're attempting to get your adept?
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I´m gonna lean out of the window here and say that the killers also just want to get 1 normal game. Not one, where 3 gens are done by the first hook.
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Not only tunneling but hard camping needs to stop too. Gameplays like this ruin it for survivors... Ive had 3 games in a row today with tunnelers & hard camping and it just ruins the whole game
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I mean killers tunneling is the counterpart to survivors who gen rush so. Who's to say tunneling is normal and not gen rushing?
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You can always try killer instead plenty of vacant spots
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I HATE playing killer. I see my bf playing all the time and the amount of toxic players he has is just not funny anymore...
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A lot of very boosted killers are prowling the game with rank reset. Because of how mediocre they are in general, but are propelled by the ever present and perfect matchmaking, they believe that the only way to win is by resorting to early tunnelling and camping. Not realizing that most of the time they're against solos that are ill equipped to deal with it. These same killers will almost always lose to even an average SWF (those that are hardly coordinated and do it for fun) because they are ultimately boosted and won't be able to handle any sort of strategic approach from survivors.
Just play Killer if you don't have friends to play with.
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I mean, to me, this indicates there is a problem with how survivors are currently equipped. Makes you think survivors need some changes to not be able to be as toxic.
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That's how I feel. The vast majority of toxicity in DBD comes from Survivors IMO.
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Yeah, it's hard going for adepts when you can't have an exhaustion perk to help you escape from the hook. You have to HOPE your teammates have BT. Best thing you can do is probably just avoid the killer most of the match, and work on gens when it's safe. Maybe do totems instead, since the killer can't see where those are.
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That's what I said, the matchmaking is so 'perfect' that it usually gives killers unusually easy matches no matter the ranks. Or sometimes you get far too good people for your rank. Tunnelling and camping will secure you easy pips. How do you think most people adept in red ranks? They tunnel the first guy and proxy camp while keeping decent early-game pressure. Then they farm the gatekeeper points when two are left. And, I play red ranks most of the time on killer. Camping and tunnelling are probably the EASIEST way to pip, lol. Just don't face camp and your chaser won't be hindred.
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Alright, thanks.
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I wonder why killers tunnel it's because 2-3 gens pop first hook if you don't have corrupt on. I'm #7 global for clown, and I'm an extremely hardcore clown player. I end chases literally in 20 seconds. Nope sorry it doesn't matter, because gens pop, and I still have to sweat to make sure I can at least get 12 hooks in during that game before all gens pop. Then I proceed to get called names in the endgame chat even though I 2 hooked everyone before I killed anyone. Mean while holding w and pre dropping pallets to make distance, because there is so many pallets on every map will literally almost win every single game as survivor. So yes tunneling is going to happen. Most killers get tired of playing fair. Thankfully I'm on that floor where I can play fair, and still win just as fine, but it doesn't make it easy. Survivor is a joke compared to killer I have to say it.
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Had five games last night where all Survivors did was tunnel gens. Why? Please stop tunnelling gens.
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The DS change won't make any difference if you are actually tunnelled though so it's worth getting if you're concerned about getting tunnelled.
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Who are you tryimg to get your adept with
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Nancy Wheeler
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You've got to be kidding me. We are comparing tunneling, a known toxic thing to do, with doing gens, a survivors main objective?
Talk about a toxic killer community... Wow..
There are several counters to multiple gens popping at once, though it is rare to get 3 to pop before you hook someone. If that keeps happening just get corrupt intervention. But this is rare, and takes rare circumstances like a big map or a bunch of new parts.
Even many complaints in this thread are from people who admit they kill 2 or 3 survivors in a game. For petes sake! A normal balanced result is 2 kills. You may get all 4. You may get 0. That's how this game works. Sometimes you win by skill, or you lose by luck, it happens. Stop complaining everytime you get a result you don't want. The kill rate is over 2 already, which shows more are killed then survive. There's not much that can be done. People who get tunneled can play decisive strike, after the new update, it will be more balanced. As a killer play corrupt rather then playing no ed with Michael Myers (which you don't need because you can just stalk to get that!).
We can make minor changes to burn sides but this stuff happens. Enjoy the game, try to get as many kills as you can. And if you have a few games with 2 games or less, realize it's not a big deal.
As far as the main topic at hand. I'm a survivor, I know it sucks to get tunneled, it's not toxic to use decisive strike when you keep getting tunneled, as long as you aren't purposely using it for offense. They will nerf they part of it anyway, get decisive strike, and when you have a rough go of it, use it for a few games
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Killing one survivor early is the best way to win the game. And tunneling is the simplest way to achieve that.
It doesnt matter that a good killer doesnt need it most of the time bc survivor are bad.
So the only way to reduce tunneling is a gameplay change. There needs to be a benefit for not tunneling.
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Can't be tunneled until your found, chased, downed, and hooked. First 2 are your responsibility and the last is up to your team to prevent. After first hook it's on your team to provide the safe save, not the killer to ignore opportunity and give it to you.
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Killers below S tier against swf or competent solo have to tunnel at the start to varying degrees, or you'll be walked all over and get few points and kills.
With my doc if they're clearly a SWF or get a gen before first hook someone needs tunneling out (though I'd argue that's sort of the point of doc with the shock flavoured ice scream). If they don't get a gen then ease off and see how it goes.
Once down to three spread the love unless sweaty SWF or top tier solo's, in which case let's see how those looping skills hold up against choo choo time you body bobbing flash lighting f***ers ;).
Honestly if there wasn't such toxicity I'd be much friendlier. They really need to let the killer see a player's rank band, as I'd be much fairer on below 6's.
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When I play killer. I try to use all hex perks that way the survivors have to do something else other than gens. I've had a few get mad at me because I use all hex perks from time to time but it's like... I get gen rushed when I don't have all hex perks on or at least a few. If survivors complain then they just wanted the match to be quick and over with which I don't understand. Why? Why would you want a match done in five minutes? And I am a decent killer where I apply gen pressure, I don't chase for too long either. This is why hex perks come in handy because it gives the survivors a reason to get off gens or not make progress quicker. Killers who tunnel are probably just trying to get somebody out of the game quicker but then they risk all gens getting done because they're not applying enough pressure to everyone else so they loose too by tunneling.
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And the killer main objective is to kill people. Sometimes by any means necessary.
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I will agree that that Rank reset has been THE worst by far that I've ever seen in my entire time playing this game. I just played a match against a Freddy and threw my headphones across the room and put a hole in my table because of how toxic they were. Lol!
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And what is killers objective? To kill and stop gens being done and "tunneling" is a good strategy for this. You can call it boring for the survivor being tunneled but it's not more "toxic" then survivors who only focus on gens. Yes they should focus on gens and yes killers should focus on killing. This is the game.
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Personally in my games, I avoid any sort of tunneling. Unless you got a flashlight, I don't have lightborn and they really annoy me. But otherwise I keep it to a minimum.
If I constantly see the same player I've downed and hooked twice already, I'll kinda ignore them unless they're in the way or just where I am too often.
Also, I don't camp because it's not very fun, for either side, unless I see someone going for the save the moment I turn around. But can you blame me when the full sways is there to save the one hooked dude
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So does broken maps and all generators getting done in 3 minutes for the killer.
Both sides experience stuff that ruins the game for them.
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It has been stated that it is just another strategy in the game. That's it.
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I don't get it. I play the game for fun. I had 3, games where I got a 4k and the 4th game the survivors gen rushed and after that I just danced around in circles as ghost face. Me and Bill teabagged each other at the gate... For a strangely long amount of time, now that I think about it🤔 but it was fun. Nobody was butt hurt about anything. Killers and survivors are going to use whatever strategy isg goingto work. Face camping, tunneling, gen rushing, looping... It's just how it is. You win some, you lose some.
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Strategy. To win. It might not be the most fun to go against. I hate being tunneled, but its a strategy. A killer is a killer. They aren't our best friends or our parents trying to hold out hands. It may not be fun but hey they want to win or want a challenge done just as bad as you do. As a survivor main myself I don't see the big deal about a killer tunneling, you lose to it you move on.
Why do killers have to play to make it enjoyable for the survivors? When they do they get mocked "oh baby killer small pp killer cuz you have (enter any killer perk here) meanwhile 80% of survivors run pretty much the same build or small variants of it (you know what build i am talking about to). You may be after adept but how is the killer supposed to know that?
How many times I watch end game chat as survivor and see other survivors yelling at the killer for every little thing they do. Like the post on here calling NOED too strong because 3 survivors were dead and hatch was closed and he got downed by noed. "Oh i only lost cuz noed" no you were going to lose anyway.
Survivors love running second chance perks right? Survivors love to do their anything to win strategy , so why is it bad for the killer to do the same thing?
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Yes I understand that both sides have their issues, maybe try a map offering or corrupt intervention? Survivors can’t do anything against tunneling without wasting a perk slot
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Bring ds anyway, it's a good perk and discourages tunneling, the nerf won't impact that situation much at all
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People won't stop tunneling until it stops working. It will never stop working. Sucks but it's true. Just get DS.
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It's efficient. It applies pressure and takes survivor out of the game quicker, ensuring that there are less hands to do gens.
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Well if the killer has to tunnel to win a game then they are just bad. It shouldn’t be efficient to target 1 person until they die just so people don’t do gens
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the killer's job is to kill you. if you die, you die. it literally does not matter how they achieve this goal. there is no wrong way to kill the survivors.
this reminds me of dark souls and how people would make up all sorts of fake rules that don't exist and then get mad at other players for doing things like drinking estus against an invader that can't drink estus. these rules you're making up about tunnelling being a "known toxic strategy" or whatever the hell is literally just fake. it's all in your head, it's ONLY in your head, and the game you are playing does not reflect this, and it never will reflect this.
you are making things up to be mad about instead of just accepting that the killer's job is to kill you, whatever it takes. and ultimately, that's way more toxic than any killer strategy or perk could ever be.
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It's literally just part of the game. Attack the most vulnerable, it's a free kill and it shifts the game in your favor.
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If you're playing for your adept achievement (as opposed to some of the perks or whatever setup you're more comfortable with), I just wouldn't expect things to be easy.
I have a main kit that I like, and my win rate for it is definitely close to 50-60%. And even less so for other survivors that I have dailies for, or having to do a perk-based challenge that I'm not familiar with. It changes up how I usually play. (I'm not very gitgud)
I don't expect the killers or the rest of my team of randoms to know I have an objective that changes a bit of my gameplay. I expect them to play normally, as per their rank and environment. That said, I'm sorry you lost rank, and I hope you have better games!
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If the Survivors have to use flashlights to win a game then they are just bad.
If the Survivors have to use Dead Hard to win a game then they are just bad.
If the Survivors bodyblock to win a game then they are just bad.
If the Survivors have to use a Haddonfield offering to win a game then they are just bad.
See? I can play this silly game, too.
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you need to be better at the game, u wont get tunneled if u are good but at the same time is part of the design, your teammates should be doing gens while doing that also yes, include DS in your build if u are noticing that, DS is getting nerfed but as long as u werent using your DS offensibly wich is not the point of the perk, u are not getting tunneled if u are doing gens for example, u should still have your DS if the killer decides to tunnel u and if he decides to, and really wants you tehre is nothing u can do about it, hope for the bestand run adrenaline or something, u may escape and feel rewarded for outplaying a killer for so long in time to time, also killers tunnels aswell because you are bad, if u are weak they will take the chance to get u because its easy, so improve your looping.
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Honestly at this point my biggest issue is less the killer tunneling me and more my teammates unhooking in front of the killer. I don't have DS but I'm considering running it not as a ######### you to killlers but as a way to deal with teammates doing stuff that sends me to 2nd / 3rd hook state immediately.
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It's unfortunately a very much viable strategy. Even with DS' measly single stun, you can hard tunnel one survivor out of the game. If teammates are altruistic, you have comfort in the fact that gens are not being pressured. If they don't, you have free license to tunnel this guy.
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There are perks for combating tunneling like DS, struggle, borrowed time etc. I don't think there is an excuse for "always getting tunneled". I agree some people are bad for it, like I've had killers completely ignore one person in front of them, to go after the person they just hooked. But that's rare and you can combat this.
Camping on the other hand needs to be punished some how. Like idk a perk that won't allow a killer to down someone in a certain radius of a hooked survivor. It's tough to say.
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Thanks. But even if you are good at looping there is nothing you can do when you are getting tunneled.
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Maybe the killer should use a map offering or a sacrificial ward. Lightborn and wait out dead hard + mad grit solves every issue you mentioned. Killers can counter almost anything but survivors can’t do ######### against tunnelers.
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How is he to know what the Survivors will put up for offerings?
Lightborn and Mad Grit are both meme tier perks that are not worth taking at any rank above 10
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BHVR knows that camping and tunneling is a big problem in DbD, it has been like this for 4 years and yet they have never done anything about it (and adding perks do nothing).
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Eh, BHVR knows slamming gens is a huge problem, but hasn't done anything about it for the same reason they've not fixed camping and tunneling.
It's a legitimate strategy.
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Ehm you're asking people to use a certain perk on killer side but in the next sentence taking a perk for certain situations on survivor side is a waste?
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