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4.6.0 Killer Tier List
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Demo is not S tier
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Hmm
IMO Legion isn't D tier. His power might not help him in a chase, but it helps SHORTEN chases by keeping everyone injured and more importantly QUICKLY injured. Experienced (And confident) survivors will forgo healing altogether which makes them easier targets while some survivors will heal and waste time (On top of the mending timers)
A good legion is oppressive as hell to go against.
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Yeah, I see it. I'd say Legion is a lot better than clown, pig, trapper, etc. The maps have been reworked to be much more m1 killer friendly and they have some nasty builds as well as the ability to chose who to chase and where, whilst stripping away a health state for free.
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That's not to mention he also has some of the best anti-stealth in the game.
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Clown isn't C tier, hes B tier at least
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Deathslinger isn't A tier imo, he can't beat good teams since he is literally only good for 1v1's.
He can't beat any good team since they will just split gens and finish the game from there. He also lacks a good way to snowball which is often needed to win games against good teams.
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Mhmm... that just means he's an M1 Killer then, which isn't good. Maybe he could be C, but nothing higher.
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It's because his 1v1 is so good he's bottom A tier. You can beat just about defeat any and every killer (but the S tier killers) by just splitting up and working on gens.
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Wraith is also a basic M1 killer when he's able to hit survivors, if we're talking about current wraith then I say he's much weaker than legion. The upcoming buffed wraith, now that is going to be a power increase for sure
Also I'd swap Bubba and Hillbilly around, Bubba is far more oppressive for survivors these days
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Nah, Clown is trash.
His only power is making survivors drop pallets early.. which I mean, isn't good enough, almost every killer above him has a way to circumvent loops and a different power on top.
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I mean A tier means they can do ok against good teams, he simply can't so i don't think he belongs in it at all, top of B tier sure but he can't compete especially since he can't snowball. Sure you can beat nearly all killers by splitting gens but there is an aspect to that which is how easy is it to do that to the killer and how often are opportunities presented where you can capitalize on survivors and snowball.
Deathslinger since he is only good at 1v1's just doesn't belong, every other killer in A tier has good snowball potential expect PH who has a very strong tunnel ability which is the fastest way to kill survivors while still being really good at ending chases.
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On THIS list, I would say that Legion is firmly C tier. Depending on the map or if the Survivors split up, he could dip to D. Just depends on the scenario.
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well I found out you can use that to your advantage, you got to have them throw down say god pallet in the killer shack, they just wasted what is arguably the most viable pallet in every map
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I'm happy to see others here agree that Legion definitely isn't D tier. I'd move them up to C or maybe even B on a good day.
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Trickster isn't T tier? 🤔
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Bubba should be above Billy and Plague should be @ bottom, and Twins should switch position with Wraith. That's my tier list
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Disagree on Hag, she's way better than A Tier. A great Hag can destroy teams pretty hard. I'd put her in S tier.
I don't think Demogorgon is B tier. He needs some slight buffs that make some of his add-ons basekit.
I think Leatherface is just straight up better than Billy now.
Legion isn't bottom tier, though they're not far from it either. Nobody's better at getting everyone injured. Healing against Legion is usually useless.
I think Pig is bottom tier. She's probably the second weakest killer in the game, next to Trickster. I think most people just play against Pig all wrong. Extending the chase against her to prevent going down can be devastating to a Pig, because her power relies on the gens NOT being done. And she's not hard to extend chase against. Her Ambush attack is just so easy to dodge most of the time. She doesn't have much of a chase power at all, and her stealth is slower than Nurse. She, Trapper, and Trickster are alone in that bottom tier. (I have no idea why the Devs haven't just let Trapper carry two traps at base yet. Like.. that can't be hard to do, since there's already an add-on that does just that. Same goes for Demo's needed buffs. Just a few number tweaks that'd make them SO much more playable)
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I'm sorry but Trickster is in a tier of his own. I hate to say it because he was very fun to play on the PTB but he is so bad.
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twin and trickster are D, legion is high C or low B and trapper is mid C
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He gets a T for Too Weak
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Even Twins are better than Trickster
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How I would change it based on my opinions:
- Hag is the lowest in the S-tier
- Deathslinger is low in the B tier
- Blight is behind Oni
- Huntress is slightly better than Deathslinger in the B-tier
- Bubba is swapped with Hillbilly
- Plague is at the top of C-tier
- Wraith is behind Plague
- Myers and GF swap spots (I forgot to swap their spots oops lmao)
- Clown is lowest B-tier
- Legion is behind Trickster
- Trapper is at the top of D-tier
Final result:
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Thats more like it
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Curious, what makes you think Legion is worse than Trickster and Trapper?
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Just make a normal tier list, and then make a tier below whatever is the lowest tier and put him in it. That is where he fits.
Anyone who says legion is worse than trickster, is out of their minds.
Literally and killer with normal move speed, is better by default. If you took away trickster's power entirely but made his move speed default, he would be a stronger killer than he is now. His "power" is that bad.
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His power can't down survivors meaning you'll need to play him like a basic M1 killer, and his power doesn't always injure multiple people. Trickster can at least down survivors from far range and Trapper has lots of snowball potential (which sadly doesn't stop him from being weak).
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There are a few hot takes in here. Personally, here's what I think:
(Opinions are based on the perspective of a rank 1 killer main, but I also play enough survivor to hit rank 1. This list is also generally assuming no addons)
-Hag too low
- She can be EXTREMELY oppressive on many maps, and slightly less so on others. All in all, it is VERY hard to challenge a Hag with traps down. Probably S tier behind Nurse and Spirit.
-Demo too high
- His portals can be good for tracking and transportation on large maps, but theyre usually just not enough. His shred is also not good enough in chase to justify putting him over killers like Huntress and Doctor. He's mostly an M1 killer with a good pallet breaking tool. Low B tier at best, probably C tier though.
-Wraith WAY too high
- His playstyle is more suited for hitting one survivor and then changing targets with cloak. In a game where tunneling a single survivor is actually optimal (but bm), he's naturally a bad killer. Without addons I think he's pretty easily the worst in the game. With addons? Probably second worst.
-Twins WAY too low
- You have to play them as sluggers and hook patrol killers, but the twins are REALLY good at doing those two things. Their matches tend to be long and tiresome, but they are effective. Probably A tier.
-Michael too high
- Michael will probably lose a generator before he gets to tier 2. Being able to insta-down is really nice, but stalking is just such a hinderance to most games that he's probably in D tier for me, which is a shame.
-Legion too low
- I genuinely don't know why people think Legion is so bad. Keeping people injured is a really valuable asset. Their power isn't of much use in chase, but being able to keep most survivors on one health state makes chases shorter and easier. If they heal, even better. Probably high C tier.
I don't know what's considered the hot take anymore in terms of Billy and Bubba, but I'd probably put Bubba above Billy except for at the absolute highest level.
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Oni and Huntress are definitely B tier.
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Kind of the reason people say that this game is survivor-sided...
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Still have to down them. He's still D tier. So long as Dead Hard and/or Sprint Burst is meta, Legion can't be.
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Huntress - Moved down to B Tier as her hatchets can be easily dodged, she's forced to reload her power and it can easily be negated by running tight loops. Lacks proper looping capabilities to be considered A Tier.
Deathslinger - Moved down to C Tier. Slow mobility and lack of gen pressure hurt him throughout the match. Addon reliant.
Demogorgon - Moved down to D Tier - Very loud, easy to move preemptively, base kit abilities are nothing special and the cooldown on his teleport hurts his gen pressure.
Bubba - Moved down to C Tier - Despite his instadown, he's very easy to loop and preemptively dropping pallets can waste a lot of his time. Low gen pressure.
Twins - Moved up to B Tier - Fast mobility, extremely good slugging game, has good survivor tracking and can prevent players from leaving the exit gate. If bugs were fixed she'd be an A or even an S Tier IMO.
Clown - Moved down to D Tier - The rework did nothing to change him. Survivors can still predrop pallets to nullify his bottles. Speed bottles are still useless.
Pig - Moved down to D Tier - Easily loopable, power is lack luster and completely useless before gens and after the final gen is completed. Has little to no gen pressure. Addons are terrible.
Ji-Woon - Moved to F Tier - Power is very weak and relies on you consistently hitting 8 consecutive shots to damage 1 health state. Losing line of sight on a survivor can negate your entire power, allowing them to recover from any hits you landed. Addons are lack luster.
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Legion isn't even close to bottom. Yes they have to deal the final blow with an m1 but that really isn't the impossible feat people are thinking it is. Especially with everyone injured you only need one succesfull mind game
Their power does so many things to make up for that small weakness
easilly injures people practicly making everyone exposed. This automatically makes them better then myers who to get a simular effect for like a minute has to stun himself for ages.
Stall the game. Every deepwound you apply is 15% of a gen not being worked on. As long as you don't allow people to disrespect you by mending in your face he passivilly slows the game down.
Information. And this is the big one. The fact that you can have a pretty good idea where everyone is by finding a single survivor is very valuable. Good Legions will always have someone dead by hook 5 or 6 cause they can easilly find the person. And once the game is 3v1 killer just wins.
People just really play Legion wrong. He is a 4v1 killer and most play him as a 1v1.
They still need to play the game by the rules so they won't be higher then B, but if you utilize all aspects of their power well a solid B they are.
Any tier list that puts them at the bottom is a meme tier list in my eyes
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legion is c tier but in goods hands can be b tier,
Im main legion now
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Legion and Twins both need to be moved up two tiers each.
Oni needs to be moved to C Tier.
Trickster probably shouldn't be on the tier list, not because he's unreleased but because its insulting to the other Killers.
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Oni needs to be moved to C Tier.
Excuse me what ಠ__ಠ
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Stop capping, you and I both know that the Hatchets will literally hit survivors that have moved beyond walls, survivors can even see the wood chips fly after the hatchet should have hit a wall, but the survivor will be downed on the floor wondering why hatchets are like this.
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People really underestimate just how underrated Clown is, he's B Tier to me.
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Oni has some really weak maps that make his power hard to use. Plus his power can be super cock blocked super hard by strong Survivors.
If Survivors play super safe and drop pallets early to avoid the first hit for as long as possible, it can be 3+ minutes before the first Blood Fury
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I'm making a new tier list and putting him S+
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Legion is at least solid B. What is it, rank 12 tier list?
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ghost face above wraith? what game are you playing?
i thought the twins were pretty good not s tier material for sure but better than myers
trickster looks kinda weak maybe like a tier below plague since they're so similar but plague is clearly better
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How is bubba better than billy? Bubba lacks map pressure while billy has some of the best mobility of any killer
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S tier changes:
- Blight should be up there, right after spirit. - After POV fix
A tier changes:
- Billy should be B
- Deathslinger should be B
B tier changes:
- I'd move Wraith to A personally cause of his buff, I'd keep him in B for now i guess.
C tier changes:
- Straight up, Twins should be A, at least B
- Myers & Pig should be B
D tier changes:
- Legion, D ? He should be B or C at least.
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I don't get why so many people here pretend like Legion is even remotely consistent at injuring multiple people. Especially when most better teams split up anyways, on a majority of maps survivors can split up to a point where you're lucky if you get even a single killer instinct highlight to show up let alone you're able to follow up on it in the same frenzy. Like, can you just cancel your frenzy early and so slowly but surely injure everyone? Yeah sure, but at that point the first few guys either healed up again or they just finished 3 gens. Against better teams Legion is simply too slow at both the chase and funnily enough even at doing what they are supposed to be doing to be anything but D tier.
Regarding the actual list, I can agree with most of it tho some things that really stick out to me are:
Hag should be either in S or at the top of A, a good hag is incredibly oppressive to a point where she is seeing actual tournament play and success.
Blight should be at the upper end of A tier, his kit offers incredible map presence and chase power.
I think clown and twins should be in low b, Clowns gimmick hasn't changed that much sure, but his yellow bottles actually allow you to play some dropped pallets you otherwise wouldn't be able to w/o wasting time on getting blood lust, which kicks up his chase game by quite a bit. Twins if played with hard slugging in mind are actually pretty decent at getting kills, like are they incredible? No. But I'd say they are more consistent and difficult to deal with than lets say Myers or GF.
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Bubba kills much more faster than Billy. Billy can't force player drop pallets as effectively as Bubba, and Bubba 3 charge is much more easier to down a survivor when looping than Billy. Basically Billy can only down a survivor when survivor is in a positon where there is no loop, or curve a loop which is very diffcult, while Bubba can always follow survivor as long as there is no window. And u can start the saw in 4m distance as Bubba but if u r using Billy u have to wait untill u kiss survivors' asses before u start your saw
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"oni needs to be moved to c tier"
nah u cappin hard bro he's one of the best, I main him and wraith and im tellin you rn oni is nothing but high A
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nah dude, this is worse, wraith is better than plague, clown and possibly demo, clown should definitely be at the bottom, legion is wayyy better than trapper and trickster, even pig and 100% better than clown. I also think that the twins should be a lot higher. Blight is also better than hag, like a lot, hag cannot compete with nurse and spirit even a bit. idk why she's S. Blight is the only other S contender.
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Why are you necroing this thread?
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lol u outta your goddamn mind
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Gf and clown lower than doc?😭
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