Hag blind not working?

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

I know there has been various threads where we have disagreed on this, and i fully respect your opinion on it (i think i've argued with you a few times on this though). I do think like you said killers are actually being clever to camp and tunnel as it's such a powerful strategy, but my problem is i don't believe it should be as powerful as it is, considering how little skill it takes to do. I've always believe that though the devs intended it, it should be slightly nerfed, to encourage more high skill plays. Obviously a nerf would have to be very well thought out (things like it not working when survivors are nearby or the gates are open) and i believe the first time the devs did this, it was very poorly executed. I don't exactly think camping and tunneling are toxic, i more think they are stupidly powerful yet low skill strats that need to be nerfed

It's a scummy way to win and that's coming from a guy who plays Nurse... I agree with Louis they need to be nerfed but the killer mains cried when the devs suggested a built in kindred. Survivor mains would cry if it was given an unwanted buff. We got borrowed time I'd honestly leave it as it is since both sides will just cry if they touch anything .-.

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

I know there has been various threads where we have disagreed on this, and i fully respect your opinion on it (i think i've argued with you a few times on this though). I do think like you said killers are actually being clever to camp and tunnel as it's such a powerful strategy, but my problem is i don't believe it should be as powerful as it is, considering how little skill it takes to do. I've always believe that though the devs intended it, it should be slightly nerfed, to encourage more high skill plays. Obviously a nerf would have to be very well thought out (things like it not working when survivors are nearby or the gates are open) and i believe the first time the devs did this, it was very poorly executed. I don't exactly think camping and tunneling are toxic, i more think they are stupidly powerful yet low skill strats that need to be nerfed

Camping is straight up a bad strategy. I dont understand why survivors always throw themselves at the killer, its as if they were childs that dont learn that you shouldnt touch hot things.
Camping doesnt take any skill to do yeah, but it relies on unskilled survivors too, its basically a strategy for "pleb games".

Tunneling is just how you chase your target, it has nothign to do with skill because you still have to catch it.
Tunneling only is a thing becuase it is common sense to do it. No killer (usually) wants to ruin a survivors game, but its jsut the only way how to play the game against more competent survivors.
Ofc there could be changes possible, for example incentive to get fresh hooks, but survivors always prevented this because they consider this as killer buffs.

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

I know there has been various threads where we have disagreed on this, and i fully respect your opinion on it (i think i've argued with you a few times on this though). I do think like you said killers are actually being clever to camp and tunnel as it's such a powerful strategy, but my problem is i don't believe it should be as powerful as it is, considering how little skill it takes to do. I've always believe that though the devs intended it, it should be slightly nerfed, to encourage more high skill plays. Obviously a nerf would have to be very well thought out (things like it not working when survivors are nearby or the gates are open) and i believe the first time the devs did this, it was very poorly executed. I don't exactly think camping and tunneling are toxic, i more think they are stupidly powerful yet low skill strats that need to be nerfed

It's a scummy way to win and that's coming from a guy who plays Nurse... I agree with Louis they need to be nerfed but the killer mains cried when the devs suggested a built in kindred. Survivor mains would cry if it was given an unwanted buff. We got borrowed time I'd honestly leave it as it is since both sides will just cry if they touch anything .-.

So how about giving incentive not to tunnel?
Camping already is a really bad strategy, and now is even punished by the emblem systme. I think its fine as it is

The problem is thanks to that safe unhook thing, they have an incentive TO tunnel. It's also a way for survivors to farm with borrowed. It needs fixing.

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

I know there has been various threads where we have disagreed on this, and i fully respect your opinion on it (i think i've argued with you a few times on this though). I do think like you said killers are actually being clever to camp and tunnel as it's such a powerful strategy, but my problem is i don't believe it should be as powerful as it is, considering how little skill it takes to do. I've always believe that though the devs intended it, it should be slightly nerfed, to encourage more high skill plays. Obviously a nerf would have to be very well thought out (things like it not working when survivors are nearby or the gates are open) and i believe the first time the devs did this, it was very poorly executed. I don't exactly think camping and tunneling are toxic, i more think they are stupidly powerful yet low skill strats that need to be nerfed

Camping is straight up a bad strategy. I dont understand why survivors always throw themselves at the killer, its as if they were childs that dont learn that you shouldnt touch hot things.
Camping doesnt take any skill to do yeah, but it relies on unskilled survivors too, its basically a strategy for "pleb games".

Tunneling is just how you chase your target, it has nothign to do with skill because you still have to catch it.
Tunneling only is a thing becuase it is common sense to do it. No killer (usually) wants to ruin a survivors game, but its jsut the only way how to play the game against more competent survivors.
Ofc there could be changes possible, for example incentive to get fresh hooks, but survivors always prevented this because they consider this as killer buffs.

I'm sure there as many intelligent survivor players who could see the benefits of incentives for fresh hooks as there are narrow minded ones that couldn't see the benefits, so im sure it wouldn't be that bad, hence why i haven't yet given up hope and i still argue for a camping and tunnelling fix, despite the abuse i receive from killer mains for it. The irony is i actually play more killer than survivor, but the whole reason i don't play survivor is that you get so severely punished for being good. If you last a while in a chase, you get camped and pretty much sit on the hook until your dead (even borrowed time can't counter camping+tunneling) Im not saying i want to escape every game, im saying if there was a fix that buffed higher skill play styles and nerfed lower skill ones, then the game would be more fun for everyone, as killers wouldn't have to sit at a hook, and survivors could get hooked more than once before they die, but they'd still die just as often.

Finally someone who gets similar games to me.

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
I've always wondered why I never get blinded as hag actually. It's probably a bug. Also blinding at a pallet isn't toxic to me even tho I play hag and Nurse. Imo it's you just trying to survive

True thats not toxic, just like tunneling and camping arent toxic.
However clicking the flashlight is toxic

Camping depends on the situation tunneling is debatable imo it also depends on the situation if ur tunneling with 5-3 gens left its toxic if you're tunnelng with 1-2 I can understand that. And clicking the flashlight is toxic as hell

Tunneling and camping are both strategies and neither of them is BM. BM is when you hit a survivor on hook or you mori cancel someone, stuff like this.

In fact, tunneling is just the killer using his brain because clearly it woudl be dumb not to tunnel, but I know that survivors prefer killers that let them escape

I know there has been various threads where we have disagreed on this, and i fully respect your opinion on it (i think i've argued with you a few times on this though). I do think like you said killers are actually being clever to camp and tunnel as it's such a powerful strategy, but my problem is i don't believe it should be as powerful as it is, considering how little skill it takes to do. I've always believe that though the devs intended it, it should be slightly nerfed, to encourage more high skill plays. Obviously a nerf would have to be very well thought out (things like it not working when survivors are nearby or the gates are open) and i believe the first time the devs did this, it was very poorly executed. I don't exactly think camping and tunneling are toxic, i more think they are stupidly powerful yet low skill strats that need to be nerfed

Camping is straight up a bad strategy. I dont understand why survivors always throw themselves at the killer, its as if they were childs that dont learn that you shouldnt touch hot things.
Camping doesnt take any skill to do yeah, but it relies on unskilled survivors too, its basically a strategy for "pleb games".

Tunneling is just how you chase your target, it has nothign to do with skill because you still have to catch it.
Tunneling only is a thing becuase it is common sense to do it. No killer (usually) wants to ruin a survivors game, but its jsut the only way how to play the game against more competent survivors.
Ofc there could be changes possible, for example incentive to get fresh hooks, but survivors always prevented this because they consider this as killer buffs.

I'm sure there as many intelligent survivor players who could see the benefits of incentives for fresh hooks as there are narrow minded ones that couldn't see the benefits, so im sure it wouldn't be that bad, hence why i haven't yet given up hope and i still argue for a camping and tunnelling fix, despite the abuse i receive from killer mains for it. The irony is i actually play more killer than survivor, but the whole reason i don't play survivor is that you get so severely punished for being good. If you last a while in a chase, you get camped and pretty much sit on the hook until your dead (even borrowed time can't counter camping+tunneling) Im not saying i want to escape every game, im saying if there was a fix that buffed higher skill play styles and nerfed lower skill ones, then the game would be more fun for everyone, as killers wouldn't have to sit at a hook, and survivors could get hooked more than once before they die, but they'd still die just as often.

As a killer you should know that too. If someone loops you for several gens and you comit to the chase, then you cant simply let a free unhook happen after that or you lose the game. Its sad, but thats hwo the game has been designed