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The community will once again have to sit through another underwhelming chapter
So first the Binding of Kin chapter was probably the most atrocious chapter to have ever been released with tons of bugs, and a killer that wasn't even fully polished with an also very underwhelming power released with it. You can rate the Twins as good as you want, but their could have been so much more that the devs could have done to make them actually fun to play. Now fast forward three months later we have the All Kill chapter with a Korean popstar pretty boy who went psycho, who uses blades to injure survivors. But the catch is, it takes eight yes EIGHT blades to literally injure a survivor and down them. Like who even came up with this idea!? So far as it stands the new killer is rated the absolute worst compared to all other killers in the game, you'd be better off playing Trapper with no extra trap add ons. This is truly disappointing to see two killer chapters in a row disappoint, I know the new chapter has yet to release but as of now it's very disappointing.. Also don't even bother trying to submit feedback going forward on PTB, you'll just get ignored like a woman breaking up with her boyfriend. Devs ever since the disappointing Halloween Event if you even want to call it that, what is going on with the decision making over there at BHVR!? The pot of greed cards are starting to be blatantly obvious to see...
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Personal opinion: the chapters are even more disappointing with the lack of maps. If you find a killer to be lacking there's pretty much nothing else added (survivors are all skins anyway)
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I will take anything over the Blight and Twins again... The chapter with Blight created ruin + undying and nobody played the Twins. The small PP build plagued the game for so long and it felt like we just had no content for 6 months because nobody plays Twins.
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At least Blight was a great killer design. More McLean killers please. In fact the recurrent players on steam was double what it is now during the Blight release.
Yes a new map would be great too. Midwich is still the latest map.
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I'm going to pay with shard so I don't really mind he sucks lol.
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I know Blight is well liked by some but personally that’s a killer that I never want to play ever again. I don’t think there has been an interesting killer since PH ahead. Descend Beyond was Hex:Undying and thats it everything else about the chapter was completely forgettable.
I will say this Tricker was fun. I think some of the suggested buffs were unreasonable, 115% movement speed or ricochet bonus damage basekit were never going to happen and would be unfair. Having said that he could have used some buffs and a number of more reasonable ones have been suggested but so far nothing. Even all of the fog whisperers have called him extremely weak which is a rare thing to happen.
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Honestly it's not underwhelming for me. I had fun playing him on ptb I'll have fun playing him on live.
Tbh i much prefer a weaker killer on release that may get buffed in the future then have a strong killer on release and be nerfed to oblivion 2 weeks later.
Not every new killer needs to be meta defining.
That said i do still hope there are some additional changes between now and release. It's still a week longer they can work on it.
Idle hope perhaps but still
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I am jsut shocked they couldn't recreate how food of a killer, the Blight was, sure he was clunky but unique.
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Yeah honestly these last two chapters have been some of the worst the game has seen. Seeing as we weren't getting new maps with them which is the second draw if people don't care for the killer/perks, the killers needed to be good.
Binding of Kin was pretty much dead on release and without even a new map to checkout I'm expecting something pretty similar with All Kill unless we see significant changes.
With how bad these last 2 chapters have been the game has been even staler than normal for a lot of people. We really need some new features or meta changes to shake things up.
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These past two chapters have been horrible. As fun as I find the Twins I can admit the chapter was a mess. I still have waking nightmares about the Twins release. Honestly I'm more excited for everything that ISN'T the new killer or survivor this chapter. We got Blight's POV fix finally, a nice Wraith QOL change, DS nerf and OoO nerf on the way soon. The same thing happened with Twins, I was more excited about Ormond actually becoming fun to play on compared to the Twins themselves. They hit it out of the park with Descend Beyond barring Blight's clunkiness on release and meh perks except for Undying but they've really dropped the ball with these last two chapters.
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The developers have no interest in making any killers strong. There are 4 survivors and one killer per match and it is in BHVR best interest to appease the larger percentage of the player base. Its sad, but true.
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Thing is if you have a good team the twins can't even slug or camp
injured? if you're far from the killer and have another survivor with you just take the hit so victor can get crushed and then you get healed. By yourself? Just go into a locker the killer is forced to go to you and they get no other benefit from victor, this also forces charlotte to stop camping.
If victor is camping just crouch and then kick him.
If you have victor on you just don't take him off and go wait in a spot where you can't be ambushed.
Like if you get good survivors who know how to play against the twins the match is a complete joke where at worst you are trading hooks every minute but you can easily gen rush through that.
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I have enough shards for twins and I didnt even unlock them. That's how bad I feel the last 2 chapters have been. I can unlock one of them for free and I don't want them.
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Underwhelming is an understatement
This chapter shouldn't even be a chapter at this point
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Drag Queen? Nah fam, we need a Drama Queen character to represent our player base!
Not a Kpop fan and I love this chapter. It needs a map in the future though.
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I think we will get a rework when it comes out but if not then it will suck cause come on no map rework!
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Remaining realms to upgrade graphic: HillBilly, Shape, Hag, Huntress.
We have to wait at least another half a year, or may be the end of this year. To have all the old maps complete upgrade its graphic.
Then I hope, everyone hope. Each new killer since Blight, will have their own realm/map
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sad but true but if all killers quit playing there not going to have survivors either
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I wish people would accept the idea of stronger killers more. Devs wouldn't be so hesitant to make them. But when you have people screeching and dc'ing when they hear a phase you get killers like this. At least they made Oni, PH and Blight decent.
But hey I can at least look forward to seeing Yun in tight pants soon hopefully. :D
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Honestly, I am excited about this new chapter. Trickster was quite fun the couple times I played him on the PTB, and he's getting a few much needed changes to Main Event, so that's good. I'm hoping to have enough shards for him by the time he comes out.
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Awful looking killer
Cool/fun but hugely underwhelming power
No map
1/10 for quality and effort
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Blight and Wraith changes are a thumbs up from me....New killer looks....underwhelming to stay on the nice side of my opinion.
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End of the year? So what happens to the 3 characters released in that time including the 5 year anniversary /chapter 20? We'll have about 8 killers without a map.
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Blight will only just be in the spot he should've been in on release
It took so long for the POV to be fixed even though it was so glaring
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Twins are better than trapper and her perks are interesting. M1 a survivor, release boob, down the survivor, walk the boob near a hook, hook a survivor, then leave hook. Use boob to camp the hook, better than wraith, trapper. U can down the saved one and injure the savior if they were not careful enough. Much better than trapper and wraith
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People know that Twins are strong but most people hate playing as and against them because their optimal playstyle is pretty boring and unfun (a ton of slugging + proxy camping the hooks).
Also,their perks are utter trash.
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I really like the Twins, so for me the devs' track record on killers has been pretty good lately. The Trickster is a let down for sure, but I'm willing to cut BHVR some slack. I just hope the devs don't keep releasing bad killers.
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The Problem they have is that the only way they seem to be able to make a strong killer is to make the killer feel cheap to go against, like pp head and his cheesy animation locked guaranteed hits, Freddy bs, spirit no mind game bs, blight cheaters using a high dpi mouse, Broken hit boxes huntress. The only killer that's good that survivors respect is nurse because it takes work to be good with her. And even then once you're a god nurse most teams give up/have no chance, so that's not really fun either. The game is a mess tbh.
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Devs just want $$$ . The new survivor just another remodel girl with a different skin I mean how lame.
Killer is garbage with a stupid look and name. Fans have suggested many more better killers
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Even with that logic I would state it's in behaviors interest to make killers desirable to play. Survivors want variety. The same killers all the time only serves to bore them. I remember hitting up a few games with my swf post twin release and everyone in my group was disappointed when no one was playing the twins. Naturally I explained why the twins aren't being played and hell if I was going to pay money to play a killer that would be awful to play. Making strong killers is more desirable then making weak killer because initial impressions matter. For all the Style and flash there bragging the trickster shaping up to arrive to little fanfare.
As a killers player what I want is a powerful killer that has mechanical depth. If the killer does not perform to a high standard I'm going to ignore him and focus on playing more powerful killers. If there is mechanical depth that allows me to achieve these level's of power I'll more then happily subject myself to the learning process.
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Wall of text but yea I agree. Pray for licensed chapter next
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Literally this
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I have to say that the new killer piqued my curiosity - I was unfortunately very disappointed with the new survivor, I personally would have liked something more androgynous and not a second Jane (there can only be one! xD). I was so excited when the veiled avatar showed up and then she came on the PTB and I thought meh!
But really since the last Halloween event is a decent, sallow aftertaste there. It all seems somehow more loveless.
Yes, the revamped cards are nifty, but the Trickster in particular needs a spacey new card, right?
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I'm excited for this chapter actually. I get not everyone is into his appearance, but I'm happy we got a human looking killer for once who doesn't hide his face.
Twins were definitely boring tho. Everything about them (looks, lore, perks etc) didn't interest me.
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I'd rather they never add a map again honestly so that doesn't bother me, but definitely not interested in this killer nor did I like the twins - the main difference atleast is this chapter has some interesting perks whereas I was interested in 0 perks from the previous chapter, so for the perks I'll spend my shards
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I really don't know what they were thinking with the changes to Trickster after all the feedback they got. It's like they're too stubborn to implement ideas that aren't their own. Guess we're just gonna end up with a killer as bad as old Clown. And not pre rework Clown but "aiming your bottle slows you down" Clown.
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I’m honestly not even remotely excited about the new killer. This game isn’t near polished enough nor is the latency good enough to have to hit someone 8 times with those little knives, especially on console, not to mention the ricochet addon where the maps aren’t even designed to support it. Adding to that the fact that knife states dissipate so quickly, as well as the killer generally being a far, FAR weaker version of plague... It’s pretty disappointing.
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I'm also worried about the recoil
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What do you determine fun?
Flinging knives everywhere but getting destroyed with 15k bp or destroying survivors with 32k bp and a win?
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Huh why would you want something weak wouldn't it make more sense to make something strong then tune it down to a reasonable level like pyramid head
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Good. I get more time to play remnant: from the ashes
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I've had a couple of times in multiple games that i found a character i liked only for it to be nerfed a couple of weeks or even a day later.
From a designer point yes it is probably easier to make something strong to then tune it down once you realise what it is that's too strong
It's mostly a personal preference that i rather would get used to a weaker character and then can laugh later when they get buffed rather then getting used to the strong version and then have to struggle when they get weaker.
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Well then splish splash your opinion is trash
(Na its not I just dont get why you think that)
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Ow yeah?
Well black white you're probably right
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Ohh shoot I've got the boot
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All in all, agreed on all points with the latest DLC anymore. But I for one was really looking forward to The Twins. And the idea of Victor being a small stature killer. And not some Tick/Flea that's just a inconvenience. If at all, they botched the opportunity to allow Victor to drive a survivor when he pounced on anyone. Control them into hazards on the map to wound them. Or even straight into the sister for a hit. The sister is also just that, a hitter/tank like force, which she's basically a vehicle for Victor. It should have been Victor to do most damage and be the main focus of the two. But alas, the opportunity was at a loss.
On to The Trickster. (DC Comics gonna love finding out such similarities to this one) I have always wanted a dagger throwing character, but after viewing him how he plays, it feels obnoxious. His name sake foreshadows no trickery, whatsoever. His Huntress like tactics are a rehash, in a manner. I'm just hoping he gets a boost and a better look before reaching DbD officially.
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Eh. At least the perks work this time around.
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Perks on both sides seem interesting to me.
The killer's base power needs some SERIOUS work, as it's boring/unrewarding for both sides in its current state.
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Everyone, they adjusted Twins on release to make them more fun and usable, so no need to be pessimistic here.
Oh wait, no, they haven't changed anything. Outside of a couple bug fixes, Killer power/perks/addons and usage remain identical, with the sole exception of being able to briefly view where a survivor is with Victor attached.
I still can't figure out why a sruvivor can run at the same speed, vault, leap through windows - essentially loop you unimpeded, with a screaming child attached, but hey, what do I know.
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The reason I believe people are saying that the latest chapters have been “underwhelming” is because there has been no new maps. I understand why because of the reworked maps but it’s been so stale as of late because of no new maps. The maps are usually a big part of hype for the new chapter.
They could’ve done great with maps for Blight, Twins, and Trickster.
I still believe the Legion chapter was worse than Twins though:
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What I don't want from the All-Kill dlc is for the trickster to come out with strong teachable perks and then have their power nerfed after they sold the dlc, which i fear is gonna be the case.
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