Which is the weakest kiler in game?

I compared Myers to Oni because they are similar not because of their mobility, but because they both need to do something in order to use their power at its peak. Also, both of them are regarded as snowball killers, which means their gameplay centers around using the most usage of their power to end the game as quickly as possible. I really do think that Myers's smaller terror radius doesn't make him a stealth killer from beginning to end, but rather a tool that he can use to get stalk more effectively, as it would be extremely difficult to stalk if survivors can constantly hear you terror radius. But ok, since you want to put Myers as a stealth killer, let me compare him to his other mates, Ghostface, Pig, and Wraith. Wraith goes for a full hit and run playstyle, which gets stronger with his high mobility and invisibility, a thing that no other killer has. The Pig has a low stance when she is crouched, which on top of having no terror radius at all makes her harder to see. Also, she can do a dash attack and use bear traps to slow the game down.

So, out of these 3, Ghostface is the one who gets the most similarities from Myers, since they both are stealth killers. First of all, Ghostface's stealth is very superior to Myers. He has no terror radius, has a much lower stance, and can also crouch and lean over covers to stalk. Having no terror radius not only makes him much more effective when stalking but also when trying to hit an unaware survivor. Myers is a two meters tall man with no ability to make his stance lower neither suppress his terror radius to get a free hit. If you got surprised by a tier 2 Myers, it is absolutely your fault. Then for stalking. Ghostface's stalk fills only for each survivor that he is stalking, which gives him more freedom to when to go for each victim. Also, Ghostface's exposed meter fills much quicker than Myers, and even quicker if he is leaning from a cover. Myers's stalk meter is universal for every survivor, which means that if he pops his tier three, all the other survivors can react to that by playing immersed or safe while his power is active. A good survivor team will know how to act when a Myers has gained tier 3, making sure he wastes his peak getting two downs at best. At the end of the day, Ghostface can get as many instadowns stalking much less and more effectively. So comparing those two, there is absolutely no reason to play Myers when you can play Ghostface, unless you want to play Myers as a snowball killer, which also has much better competitors than himself. In the end, Myers ends up being incompetent as a stealth killer and as a snowball killer.

Well, it's basically a general agreement between the community that Myers is one of the weakest killers in the game. Most people will agree that he is outdated and a bottom tier, much more than Plague and Twins at least. So I don't think that it is fair not putting Myers in this list as so many players have already brought up his problems.

Now, let me debate your explanations why you think that the other killers could possibly be the worst.

The Twins are the single best sluggers in the game. When all survivors are injured, Victor can just down all survivors in a blink of eye. This is due to two reasons, the first being his sheer speed and the second the fact that even tho his attacks are dodgeable, it is extremely difficult doing so against a good Twins. Even I who don't play them all the time can get 80% of my pounces landing. Of course, they have some weaknesses, such as lockers, being vulnerable after downing a survivor with Victor, and the amount of time that gets to hook a survivor. However, they are still strong just by how good Victor can be in chase.

For the Plague, all your arguments that you used to justify her placement can also be said about Huntress. Huntress's hitboxes are also inconsistent and indoor maps give her even a harder time since she is a 110% killer. The only thing that I do agree is that it indeed take some time to injure a survivor with Vile Purge, but normally as a Plague, you will just infect survivors instead of trying to make them broken and get a free down. A Plague without Vile Purge addons will only try to fully infect survivors if they are out in the open. Also, I would like to note that Plague with her Corrupt Purge is the single strongest projectile killer in the game with no doubt.

While I do agree that Demo has a problem of being very loud, it doesn't hurt him so much since he is not meant to be a full stealth killer. For the other part, I would like to state that just because the shred can be dodged, it doesn't mean it's weak, as Huntress's hatchets can as well. Using your shred depends on the situation, as sometimes is a lifesaver and in others is useless.

For the Legion, I very much disagree. Juking almost never works against a Legion and if it works, it is his fault. Yes, sometimes you will not be able to get all 4 survivors in a single usage of your power, but that only depends on how far they are on each other. The thing is, if you don't have any duration addons and don't see any other survivor with your killer instinct, you should just cancel you power and go for the survivor that is already injured. Your Feral Frenzy has relatively a small cooldown for what it does, so losing your power is not a big deal.

The Pig can indeed suffer from good loopers, but that is not a problem that only she has as basically every other M1 killer suffers as well and this includes Ghostface, Myers, and so on. Her traps on the other hand, even though RNG-based, will give you at least some seconds in the game, which at the worst case is still something. If you get lucky, then you are good to go, if you don't at least you have gained something.

For Wraith, I think that his longer lunge compensates for his loud bell and slow uncloaking since his gameplay is based around getting survivors out positioned. I do think he should get a faster uncloaking buff though.

The new update gave him a tool that he can use in situations that he can't hit a pink bottle. So even if the survivors are too far away and can't be slowed, Clown can now simply speed up himself. Yes he indeed lacks map pressure, but since his anti loop is very good, it ends up being not so bad to the point of making him the worst killer.

Well, everything you just said about Trapper can be said about Myers xD. OoO wrecks them both, they only get stronger from mid to late game and they lack any map pressure at the start of the game.

First of all, in my first post I said that I find Oni pretty weak, definitely not bottom tier but weak nonetheless. I also stated that having his mobility puts him above Myers in that regard but I didn't compare them as killers because of that but in spite of that. I did compare them however because they are both killers that follow the logic of "gaining your power once and now you are a threat to all survivors and can snowball better than most killers". That much you can't deny that they are similar, as you are not going to spend an entire Myers game without stalking and neither an entire Oni game without going into Blood Fury. Also, the fact that both killers have Infectious Fright as one of their mandatory perks proves that they do go for the same snowball playstyle to get most usage of their peaks of power.

First of all, Spine Chill isn't used that much in higher because survivors are aware of their surroundings. The lack of Spine Chill doesn't make Myers strong, as every competent survivor will know to look for a Myers creeping onto them, after all, even with Monitor, he still has a terror radius and unlikely other stealth killers, Myers is tall and easy to see with no other tool to hide him. Perks do make him at least a bit less weak, but the fact that he has to dedicate a perk slot to Monitor and Abuse and still is far away to become a monster only proves how limited he is.

About Ghostface, let me ask you a very honest question: What is the point of being spotted stalking and not lose your power? Myers does not lose his power, but what can he do about it if the survivor can just go for a cover to protect him from being stalked. Also, if he is really supposed to be a stealth killer, being spotted should be his priority, so if a survivor has noticed you and started running, then your stealth attempt has completely failed in the first place. I would like to note that even if Ghostface loses his Night Shroud, the the stalk meter of each survivor won't disappear unless he hits them, in which case, what would be the point of getting an exposed effect in the first place? Good Ghostfaces know how to crouch and lean effectively and even if they don't decide to stalk, trying to play the hit and run Ghostface, they will still get injures more easily than Myers ever could, since his stealth ability is much superior. It's a fact that Ghostface struggles with a top% SWF, but so does Myers. If survivors got cocky and underestimated a killer, then it's their fault that they got killed and this applies to every killer. And I honestly don't know where did you come from saying that I hate Myers, because if I truly hated him I wouldn't be asking for a full rework Freddy style for him. I just stated that he is incompetent simply because that's a fact that most of the community agrees on. Think about it, as a snowball killer, every other option is better and as a stealth killer, every other option is better as well. It is not personal, I am just stating the reality.

I do not think that every other killer other than Myers and Trapper is strong and viable. Wraith, Clown and Pig are far from it. I am just stating their redeemable qualities that make them unique and at least a little bit competent on their own way. If you are just saying that you can't put Myers on the list because you think that people don't know how to play him properly based on your own experience, then anyone can make the same argument with every other killer on the list. Myers is indeed regarded as bottom tier killer by a lot of people and ignoring that because you play him a lot and you love him is simply being in denial. For Trapper, as a strategic map control killer, my problem with him is that his set up time is ridiculously slow and unnecessary, especially when compared to Hag, not only that but he has so much counterplay that it doesn't justify the time that he has to put in placing his traps. Unlike Myers, I do not think he needs a full rework as his identity is pretty well established and it just needs some buffs to make him work. I would suggest giving more available traps in the map, increase his trap set up speed and increasing the number of traps he can carry. With only these three buffs, I think he would be able to achieve Hag levels of strength.

For the rest of the killers, I will not debate about it because for almost every one of them you brought a valid weakness. However, this is a comparative poll and everything I can say to back up my opinion is say that, although their weak points, Myers still has far more weaknesses and are far more abusable. The only thing that I would like to argue about is my comparison of Plague and Huntress. In my humble opinion, Plague is far more strong than Huntress in every sense but let's discuss hitboxes. With your argument, I do believe that you think that having a big and fat hatchet hitbox is an advantage when actually it is not. Having a big hitbox means that your shots are more susceptible to not pass above, under or between objects. On a simple two garbage piles and a pallet loop, a Deathslinger and Plague may be able to hit the survivor with their power by aiming above the objects while Huntress cannot. The only situation where a bigger hitbox actually benefits you is when a survivor is running in the open with no obstacles in the way. The problem with this is that this large would be unnecessary if you could shot faster, your projectile was quicker and your aim was perfect, which is exactly what Deathslinger does. As for Plague, her projectile is a stream of vomit, so you can spray it and the survivor will have no way of dodging it unless they go for a solid cover.

Closed at OPs request.