How is face camping a hook allowed?
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Oh wow that's terrible.
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Proxy camping is a decent strat. Throwing the game to facecamp not so much
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I never said camping / tunneling is terrible. U survivor mains make those 2 words become bad words. It's a legit strategy but survivor mains ######### about when killers use it. Just don't ######### about it because tunneling and camping r the things that every survivor does in every game
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I see I'm the only one here told u how to handle a face camper but u r so disappointing me. I think u deserve to suffer from face camping
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It's been addressed hundreds of times. The devs stated on so many occasions that this is a tactic. You may not like the tactic; but it's a tactic nonetheless.
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I can not believe this comment can be posted by a 5000+ posts dude. Didn't u see what I said about how 2 safely unhook from face camping? If u spend so much time in this game but u still think face camping is invincible then u r just bad word
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You're just gonna get swarmed by killer mains on here for having a negative opinion on their "strategies".
I been playing a lot of killer lately and very rarely run into any of the issues they complain about. I don't camp, tunnel, nor slug either because I know how unfun they are to play against and guess what?! I still get good games most of the time.
I've only gotten like two negative messages in EGC. Playing killer is a dream after the shitshow survivor is.
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How I handle face campers.... kill myself and move to the next match 🙌😂 works wonders. Also stress free. Much better than quitting and getting a 5 min ban
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U r encouraging face camping and I like it😉
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I remember the old days when if a killer facecamped (as in literal "pressed up against the hook in yo' face" facecamping) it would block the unhook prompt, meaning the survivor was 100% doomed to die. Like, you could hook the survivor, facecamp, AFK and make a sandwich, (survivors physically couldn't unhook the survivor, since you could only unhook from the front back then) come back just in time for the survivor to die, go down and hook someone else, facecamp, AFK while you enjoy your sandwich, come back in time for the survivor to die, etc.
IMHO facecamping (outside of certain circumstances like after all 5 generators are complete) is poor sportsmanship when done from the beginning of the match, but it shouldn't be bannable. Usually if the killer is facecamping from the beginning he's going to get bad emblem score (I once facecamped 3 people to death and depipped) if they care about their ranking, and very little bloodpoints since they're not getting in many chases and hitting survivors to down them only once.
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I meant addressed as in solved. It's scummy and the devs clearly don't want it (hence the proximity to hook penalty), but a reduction to emblems is only so much of an incentive. The unfortunate reality is that it's still an easy way to get 2 kills while still ruining the experience for the other side.
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It's just as "lazy" as sitting at a gen when playing survivor, not much happening but that is the game. And it's up to the killer what is fun or not. If you had a though day at work and you pour yourself a drink at home and play DBD it's pretty relaxing not having to chase around like crazy all game. Also a good way to derank if you are tired of being red rank killer.
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I don't see how any of these options are reaching. These are all things you can do. Having teammates swarm the hook cam be especially effective against any killer that isn't Bubba, especially if any of them have borrowed time. Also, that build would do much better with Deliverance than slippery meat, as long as you're able to unhook one person first. And it's not really "unfair" when you look at it from a team perspective either. Yeah, you'll be stuck on hook if no one tries to rescue you, but with how long it takes a person to completely die on hook, multiple generators will get done and it will generally result in a loss for the killer.
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Yes it is allowed but is a shame that devs don't find a solution for this problem, and it would be very easy to fix. Just add penalties for face camping and give bonus for hunting. Very easy. I really cannot understand why devs allows this nosense anger-full way to play....
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because is not funny, game should be funny
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Whoever said "gen camping" is being nonsensical. But at the same time, if you question why camping is allowed, so are you.
Saying "you're shouldn't allowed to camp" is like saying "you should only be allowed to repair 1 generator every 3 minutes as a team".
Just stop it. It's a dumb complaint, and shows how new you are to the game.
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funny how you say scoring should be 1/12 hook states but some killers can't do that how fast gens go by the time some killers have 3 hooks all gen are done(with out camping)
and the only time I camp or tunnel is egc at which point I have no choice
there maybe less camping if gens didn't go so fast or survivor had a 2nd objective because totums aren't working.
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If you take away the freedom of playing how you want then the game is not fun anymore. Lot's of things is not "fun" for killers also so then survivors have to be limited in other ways also. And we all end up with a linear game that no one would like.
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I play every killer except; bubba, spirit, nurse and billy in my rotation. Consistent rank 1 every season, consistent 4ks, no exceptions with anyone I play with. I have to fully disagree with you, there is not a single killer who is incapable of consistently getting 10-12 hooks on an average game, when played optimally. Some are less consistent, sure, but I can't think of a single killer who is trying to get less than 12 hook states by their main objective. You could argue pyramid head, seeing as you can kill everyone with your power, but still 12 earned hooks.
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with solo maybe new players yes but swf group of 2/2 or 3 one solo or full swf At most killers get there last hooks when egc starts or about to start
I play most killers but main 4 but I can see how gens fly when I play solo survivor I'm not a good looper never will be but I get chased doing good as I can get down and 3 gens pop I been able to make it out as survivor with out touching a gen I do 1 or 2 totems before I can touch a gen 3 gens are done something does need to be done about this because I can see why killers camp and tunnel sometimes.
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Because the developers themselves believes face-camping is a form of threat, without acknowledging that there is an unfair element to it when the survivor on hook (playing as sacrificial lamb) basically doesn't play the game and has 0 options. Apparently this doesn't seem broken to them.
I know it's hard to believe that after 4 years we are still having this conversation, but contrary to popular belief, not every single Camping scenario allows for gens to be done so quickly that it would become a form of "punishment" for the killer. I've had the opportunity to play this game over 5k hours and I can tell you sometimes someone has to go in there trade just to give us more time. Which would sound exciting but honestly even when you escape it feels like an unpleasant experience. Like, I would rather just hide the whole game just to waste their time at that point.
That's why when people say "It isn't fun" they don't necessarily mean the action of camping, they mean it in that they (the survivors) really aren’t playing the game. I think that is a fair statement when you look at how much it is done throughout a day's worth of playing. It is even common in red ranks.
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Im not trying to be rude, I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to say. It may be the lack of punctuation, it may be because it is late, but I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to convey
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I think i can translate.
"Against solo 12 hooks is possible, but even a 2-3 man swf can be too efficient, the gens just fly by. Even as a solo Survivor who isn't good at looping I can loop a killer for 3 gens or get 1-2 totems broken in the time it takes m team to do 3 gens. I can see why it is frustrating for killers and something must be done"
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it sounds like he just isnt a very good killer then. :/
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I need to put this in a document so I can cut and paste this....
There are 4 of you.... and doing gens is so braindead easy.
Gens can be done in 80 seconds
it takes literally 120 seconds to die on first hook
Again, there are four of you. If the hook is being camped, then the killer should lose AT LEAST 2 gens.
Hell, Is aw it in action today - camping Legion walked away with zero kills because we focused on gens (including me being cheeky and doing one near the nook to entice him away far enough for teammates to rescue the first hook AFTER we popped 2 gens)
By the time this Legion got a second hook on a fully healthy survivor, we just pounded out the last gen, opened a door, healed everybody up, then the 3 of us bum-rushed the hook. I faked the save and took the first hit, the other two tanked for the injured. ALL OF US GOT OUT IN SOLO Q
Camping is VERY DEFEATABLE. ######### get good.
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How could it be stopped?
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The difference is
sure there are many unfair things for killers in this game.
but the killer is able to play the game and there is no survivor perk or mechanic that stops the killer from playing the game.
unlike standing in front of someone who can’t move.
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Bro if you stood at a gen infront of the hook the survivor on to entise the killer to come for you instead of standing there did that actually work? 😂 if not, surely that's they're on fault fault the gens were finished and that could of been prevented. He had the opportunity to go for the second piece of meat and if he didn't take that meat that's his own fault really surely?? Csnt complain that was a bad game if he dont nothing about it.
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There's the stupid
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Every single one of you killers say you "only camp as a last resort",,, well then why does it happen almost every damn match? I play every night and almost every night there are 3 or 4 matches where someone camps then players dc and it is just crap.?? It used to happen every few days now it is every day!!
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The fact that you have it ready to paste from a document shows the amount of times this has been brought up.
I don’t think the majority of survivors complain about how “defeable” Camping is. For me at least, I find it to be a boring game whenever someone camps, yes even if we hold M1 and escape. Not to mention that person who just basically just pressed the space bar and that’s the most experience they got out of that trial. Because outside of that they had 0 options to play the game, not one or two, zero.
That is a problem from an experience perspective, and the fact that it can be done at lower ranks where people barely have any perks that half-way make it less of stressful for them.
I don’t think people are in the wrong in asking for more options, especially built-in ones if there is a player that simply wants to get someone out of the game. This type of playstyle only further encourages people to DC making it an overall bad experience for everyone.
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If you think about it, back in the beta or alpha of the game, you were supposed to face-camp the hook since how short the sacrifice timer was.
Just a neat lil thing imo.
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how gens are I now shocked by it I play both sides and I get camped too the different between you and me I know why.the only time it camping sucks the most is if the killer doing at 5 gens or 4 gen because not like it close to the end yet.
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in short I play both side as a survivor I see gen are going to fast.
I get in a short chase with the killer get down and hooked and 3 to 4 gens are done I play solo.
not even good at looping and I waste the killers time to get 3 to 4 gens done.
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yea someone explained it. It really just sounded like you were playing poorly as killer, or against poor killers.
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I don’t camp anymore, I go to gens try hook all.
but today I’ve had nothing but red ranks, I’m rank 12 I’ve just gotten back into the game so I’m just getting my hours into the game.
but today I had team makes click flashlights, circle me, keep jumping the windows constantly, they would Tbag, when I got them on the hook they would take them off and circle me. I got annoyed today with them I just camped one survivor they had one gen left they all died apart from the rank 20 that found the hatch instantly.
but they only died because they came as a group none of them self healed they all went down also I was trying to get my Mori kills I don’t usually use that but I need my trophy.
also people don’t like Freddy... I always let the last person go if I get all the others. Not all Freddy players are bad :( but they didn’t like me one bit.
im not sure what’s up with the matchmaking today. :(
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are you sure that you not just lucky on getting bad survivors.
I mean for the most part I do good I get 3k or 4k before all gens are done and 3k is a good game to me but sometime some survivors can pop tho gens like crazy if they want to win badly.
why I run noed as back up on some of my killers who can't handle swf groups because I know if the gens going that fast they not doing totems a lot of the time I don't need noed but sometime I do.
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the fact that using noed as a "back up" kinda proves my point a bit? Not trying to be rude, just objective. Im not getting lucky if Im rank 1 every season for a few years, consistently 4king 9/10 games with every killer in game. Any killer can be good
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back up meaning a lot of game I don't use it still 3k or 4k but to get that you have to sweat or lose the match as killer for survivor not that hard to win even in solo.
if your in rank 1 all the time that good but I'm sure you have your bad games
btw how matchmaking is being being a rank 9 killer I don't need to be in red rank to face red rank survivors which most what i face.
also my main is mikey so you can see how I could have a hard match sometime and I don't use noed on him still win but sometime games go bad.
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"How is it allowed"?
The same reason why you are allowed to leave a teammate to die to escape yourself, because it's part of the game and the game is balanced around it; even if you don't like it.
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Anyone in their right mind using Kindred can see some nutter hanging around the hook or loitering. If I'm in the last 2 and I get hooked. I encourage my team not to get me and to find the hatch or the EG just because I'm being teabagged and want them to have a good game out of it.... this is how half of my survivors become my pals on xbox, we have a good time playing and it's always visa versa. I'm also friends with a few killers as well and party with them almost on a regular basis who teach me.some tactics of being in the killer pov. And it gives me more strength as a survivor to know what I'm getting myself in for. One of them told me if I'm in the last 2 and the killers teabagging not to bother. Or if they have bbq best thing to do is count to 5 in a locker and get out 😂 unless of course the ######### have iron maiden on then were screwed.
Killers gon moan about something
As will survivors..its one of those games. Just don't camp my ######### hook then expect not to have 4 gens pop in your face at the same time 😂😂
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The rank match making has been terrible last few days! I had a red rank and I've reset back and got down to 14 😂 some matches killer didn't even have bbq on.. and yet they found me from the other side of the map within seconds. Possibly wrong place at the wrong time. But when you can see the dude on the other side of the map chasing another survivor, gives up and somehow manages to see you and tunnels you it's bizarre 😂 still it's a game though hun, I'm sure you'll get better lobbies both survivor and killer soon enough x
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it's a tactic, sooo
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so is setting off 3 gens within seconds apart then mate 😂
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yep, no point having a logical conversation with you.
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Well if its a tac tic and a killer objective and tact tic to face camp, how is it not an objective for 3 gens to pop at the same time? It's a tac tic as well. 😂 have said it before can't camp a hook then ######### 2 or 3 gens are done. It takes 80 seconds roughly to fix. Hardly quick time.
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🤣
Another killer pro....
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Im not saying I win every game, but you get to a point where 4 escapes in unheard of. A bad game for me is two escapes with at least one on death hook. You optimize play styles to a point that unless you are facing an incredibly efficient team, your loses are games slipping through your fingers, not steam rolls. Noed will get you maybe one unearned down? If you must rely on an end game perk, BW is honestly the way to go. Its easy enough to stall, and can and will get you more kills than you would with noed. Either way though it really is a waste of a perk slot. In the long term the consistency of having four perks being used to their fullest effect is so worth. Its the reason people at higher ranks use devour instead of noed. It instantly stops all progress, as soon as they know its in play, you have free reign until it goes down. If you play off it well enough, or get a great spawn, it will be devastating most games. Noed on the other hand, shouldnt even be an issue. "Do bones" is kinda a meme, but there is no reason any totems should be left by the time gates are powered. Its just too inconsistent , and honestly too weak to be useful
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This game being balanced....that's a good one.
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I not going to go on like this forever but I say this I don't use noed on all my killers I do well with out it I also do win alot of match I get a bad match like 1 out of 6 games. most games I get 3k or 4k they like 3 or 4 survivors still alive but all on death hook by the time there 1 gen left and by then the game could turn into into a 3k 4k 2k 1k even 0k because how well some survivors are at that point bodyblocking to the hook BTing and dsing
I do feel gens go fast to me the fact also is killer is much hard then survivor way harder then it should be to have fun and I hate to have to sweat to get 2k or 3k
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