Trickster is definitely F Tier
Like he's just a budget decrease version of Huntress, and you have to put in more effort for less value compared to Huntress. You have to use eight blades in order to get an injure on a survivor, compared to Huntress where you hit a survivor with just one hatchet and they become automatically injured and that's a free down. Also what's the point of the laceration meter? Is it just there for viewing purposes, or do you actually want to make it so where the meter doesn't drop at all!? Main Event can be quite useless to use at times, but at least Trickster can spam the hell out of you with his blades. Also why does the meter for Main Event disappear if you don't activate it? Why should I be punished for not using his literal desperation move, if I actually just want to save it for the perfect time? The best use I've gotten out of Trickster so far is by using the Iridescent Photocard that lets you instadown people, and Diamond Cufflinks that lets you see the aura of survivors after managing to hit them with eight blades. Quite disappointing that I have to use an instadown add on just to actually make this killer work in some way, because I don't see the point of using his power for how bad it is. He's arguably the worst killer in the game compared to others, and no Karen just cause it's the first day doesn't mean you can ignore the fact that he's F Tier material. I'm glad I kept my expectations low for Trickster buffs, but jeez this is not how you make a killer...
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In all fairness, hitting with a knife is much easier than getting a hit with a hatchet. But I think there's too much effort required for him to get a down with them. Maybe reduce the necessary hits to 6 instead of 8. Then require survivors to perform a mend-type action to remove laceration. I'd like to see Ricochet as Basekit too. (I'd keep his knives at 60, because 60 sometimes just doesn't feel like enough with how easy it is to miss due to recoil)
Like, I can't hit with Huntress's hatchets for the life of me. But I got like 3 downs with Trickster's knives.
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Ehh, I'm happy with him. Level 1 with only CC and I got a 4k with a controller :D Played against him too, it was fine. They averaged a 2.8 kill. It will get better once people actually get their preferred builds on him. One poor dude even had coulrophobia cause he had nothing better. Still got a 3k. Red/purple ranks btw
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I'm a red rank survivor. Only one Trickster I faced got a single kill. And that's because he camped and tunneled pretty hard. One trickster basement camped (only in end game) and still couldn't get a kill.
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He's more comparable to Plague than Huntress, but even then, he's still awful. It's hard enough playing killer, why make such a terrible one?
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He has NO map pressure, NO loop game aside from lengthy T walls, and indoor map? laughable. I can see him being viable in Green to yellow rank at best.
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First two games with him, I averaged about four and five hooks at best.
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Yeah he'll be better for people who are not good with Huntress, but improvements need to be made most definitely.
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A month after Blight released, I got back into DBD to try him out. Got his 3 perks on tier 3, and played a ton of games with him. I failed a lot, but I got hooked into learning him because I felt like I was just playing horribly and Blight was REALLY fun despite getting 0 kills for 10 games. The thing is though, Blight has anti-loop and god-tier mobility. Trickster doesn't have much in his kit other than an inconsistent ranged attack and another ranged attack. No anti-loop, no mobility, just an alternative M1. Plus, his movement speed is 110%, which is literally the same as Spirit's, who is arguably the 2nd most powerful killer in the game.
Sure you can go for long-ranged attacks but the survivor will just hide under a rock. He's heavily outclassed by Deathslinger for what he's got. I REALLY hope he gets buffed. They made him fun to play as and against, but they didn't manage to balance him right.
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Wouldn't it be neat if he got 2% increased movespeed or something everytime he hit with a knife for a short while. That would be nice.
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I love the concept of Trickster, but their execution is atrocious.
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Unfortunately, I don't have any screenshots so I asked a friend. I was the adept in this round. The 2 kills were all before noed which never popped cause the dude only downed with the knives after all gens were done.
Was a 3-man team too.
Have to admit, guy was a real pain in the butt tho. Very nasty in chat.
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Coming from someone who thinks clown is any good at all kind of has their opinion blocked out for me, sorry.
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All he desperately needs is a speed buff,then he would actually be a decent B rank at best
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I agree about the controller thing. Haven't tried him with mouse yet but I'm the only one among friends who complained about how slow the response is so it might be the controller's fault.
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I'm slowly getting better with him. I've realized there are very specific circumstances to use knives for example if they're just out of melee range and in open. Otherwise I stick to m1. Still on the fence if knives are just overall not worth it though.
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I don't understand the laceration decay at all. We already have a precedent for killer resource decay not being a viable mechanic: Ghostface. It never made it out of ptb on Ghostface and it was an instadown, so why try it again on Trickster? I just don't get it.
Take away laceration decay and give him actual control over Main Event activation. Then you have a mechanically deep resource management ranged killer that revolves around his special ability. But right now he's just not interesting to play. Zero reason whatsoever to go for ranged shots or do anything that makes a ranged killer fun.
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And just cause I like anime means my opinion doesn't matter? People on the internet never seize to amaze me
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He's to generic. When people are comparing him to a bad version of Huntress, then he doesn't have enough to set him apart from an established killer.
However, I have not played him yet, so maybe that's just people wanting another S tier killer. Sometimes Killers should be C tier to F tier just to add variety to the game.
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When did I mention you like anime? Sorry to say but clowns design is boring and repetitive for every single loop, throw yellow one side and throw purple other side. Such an interesting killer woooow.
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I am on my 9th game against one.
So far 3 have disconnected, and only one managed to secure one single kill.
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I mean he’s decent when pumped up by addons, mainly the green initial throw rate one, and the yellow movespeed one. You actually have a chance of damage people running around in your face with them.
Without those he feels pretty awful even with his more powerful addons just because you go at a crawl while throwing and need so much LOS time to down people.
Compared to slinger, where it’s like even 1 second of LOS and he can down/damage you.
I’ve been doing OK with him but literally at the start of every match I have had survivors swarming me because they don’t see me as a threat.
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If people even defend this killer i feel bad.
Cause they're defending a company that delayed this chapter for a whole WEEK,
And not give him something good to compensate..
Just Smh,
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Imagine not respecting others' opinions because you disagree with something that is completely off-topic to this thread. OP has a point that most of us can agree on (aka Trickster being terrible).
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More interesting than a pretty boy who throws knives at you, but that's just my opinion. So feel free to belittle that opinion as well
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Every survivor match I've played today has been all four escape. I know he's new and people aren't used to him yet... but yikes.
(Haven't tried him myself)
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Yes, he is. There is no reason to play him instead of Huntress or Deathslinger.
Most of my survivor matches today were four man escapes, and a 2 man escape against a camping Trickster.
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You shouldn't say he is F tier on the first day, you haven't learned how to play him the best yet. Saying he is weak compared to huntress really means huntress is too easy to get downs.
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He's pretty incomparable to huntress, range aside. He's like rapid fire deathslinger except you don't need particularly good aim; his projectiles are much smaller and faster (pretty much hitscans), don't require good aim, and you can miss 30 of them and still get a down. It's more nuance than just "all projectile killers are the same."
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inb4 @TricksterisUnderrated starts posting here every day LOL
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No Trickster is Z tier!
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I don't think I've ever seen a killer this poorly received. Not even Legion.
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LUL
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Yeah he bad
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You so want this killer to be good...
Just so you can complain later.
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It's sad really as trickster is a cool looking killer. I really do hope the devs work on him and give him the buffs he needs. I'm all for another projectile killer. And the concept of the throwing knives and laceration meter is great just the execution is awful and very weak
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I find it both funny and confusing what they changed with him.
Everyone and their dog, was saying to make the trick knives base kit. So they keep it as an add-on and nerf it.
Nothing of what was talked about in terms of ideas to make him feel better to play, was addressed. He still takes a tonne of knives to get a down, you still can't choose when you want Main Event, you still move at 110% speed, and now he has no way to increase his kill pressure.
So they basically took a weak killer, nerfed an add-on that helped him. Then released the guy.
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This is like the Twins all over again
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I only played 3 games bc I had to go to work. But lost all three so far. First game I got 2 kills at the end bc of overly altruistic survivors. Haven't gotten any downs with the knives. Injured a few but not all 16 before that meter reset. It's rough.
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maybe it true they want to keep the survivors happy which in the end killers will stop playing which mean survivor can't play either( long Q) or dev really don't know what they doing.
either way I may skip on this dlc I got all dlc up to this point what a shame.
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That's a Sluzzy comment for you. It's the comedy that keeps on giving.
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Trickster makes Pig look like S Tier
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I have 5 killstreak, my previous one was at 6 but I lost it to due to stupid key hatch escape. Man, keys suck so much. You cannot make Tiers on day 1 playing the killer. Even though I am 4king every single game with him. I still think he needs many buffs and improvements. Tiers are made after 4 weeks of consistent gameplay with the killer. I find him to be extremely hard to play. He has an insane skill-cap. I love his skill-cieling.
I just feel that If i am working so hard to get 4k streaks in a row, I have feeling that other players are not even able to play him. This is just my intuition. I could be wrong though.......
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I’m concerned even sluzzy won’t be able to make a “trickster op easy kills” post with a straight face.
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he's nowhere near f tier wdum??
there's, like, 30 tiers between him and f. the alphabet starts doubling up on itself before you reach his tier.
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