My issues with 'Skilled Huntress' in 2021
The 'Skilled Huntress' trophy was added to the game on July 27th, 2017 with the addition of the 'A Lullaby For the Dark' Chapter. On release the achievement was 'With The Huntress down 100 survivors using Hunting Hatchets from at least 24 metres away.' on Steam. On Xbox and PlayStation the trophy/achievement required ONE HUNDRED 24 metre downs. That is ridiculous. Luckily, Behaviour acknowledged this and changed it. The issue stems from the fact it was only changed on Xbox.
The PlayStation 4 version doesn't have any way of tracking. It requires 5 times as many downs as Steam and Xbox (PC versions are arguably way easier than consoles to hit Hatchets on, and both platforms have statistics trackers). The PlayStation 5 version that was released when the new generation of consoles released STILL has the 100 downs requirement. It's literally a new trophy list. I'm guaranteed I know more about trophies than BHVR and know that if the PS4 version truly was an issue they'd be able to change the PS5 version no problem.
According to Peanits, the Community Manager 'We later reduced the requirement to 20 downs on other platforms, but it's a little harder to change a trophy. As long as it's still possible, we're limited in how much we can change it. Unfortunately it's gotta' stay that way unless there's a radical change to the huntress that makes that trophy no longer possible.' in May 2019. They’re saying Sony isn’t as lenient with trophies compared to achievements on other platforms, and unless the trophy becomes impossible then it can’t be changed.
This is a shame, why would Sony do this to us? Unfortunately, from everything I've been able to find, this simply isn't true. I have some examples.
Pixel Junk Shooter Ultimate: 'Win 5 league battles in a row' was changed to 'Win 5 league battles'
Obviously that change made the trophy substantially easier, less frustrating, and, as far as I can tell, wasn't impossible prior to them switching it.
Here's an example where the developers literally just changed the amount required... exactly what I'm suggesting is done with this trophy.
Towerfall Ascension:
Originally there were these trophies:
Play 5,000 matches.
Play 20,000 matches.
Beat 30 Diamond Time Trials.
Get a Time Trials Time under 2:00.
They were changed to:
Play 1,000 matches.
Play 5,000 matches.
Beat 10 Diamond Time Trials.
Get a Gold Skull on King's Court.’
Despite knowing nothing about the game I can easily see that 3/4 trophies mentioned literally just changed their numerical values. They weren’t changed because they were impossible.
Also, I've earned this trophy. And I'm still wanting it changed. I don't want others to have to do 5 times the work that the other platforms have to do, for no actual reason. It's ridiculous. This very clearly seems like Behaviour's just unwilling to change it. Not because there's an actual limitation made by Sony.
Please change this Behaviour. It's clear you guys are able to, just unwilling.
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Yes, yes, yes!
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This is nothing compared to some of the harder challenges ingame- I think I spent more time on Left Behind than over half of all other achievements. I pretty much had to half-throw to get the achievement, and play like a Blendette until the last guy died (I 99'd 2 of the last 3 gens before it happened).
If this is a problem on BHVR's end, shame on them. Then again, this is the same group that keeps Killers like Twins, Clown, and Legion super weak, allows both sides to have unfun perks like DS or NOED, and take weeks to make the smallest of changes. I wouldn't hold my breath for achievements anytime soon.
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Cases with Sony are handled on a per case basis. Such as changing achievements. It’s not going to be the same for every game since the conversation between the developer and Sony is specific to their game.
It’s misleading to apply the same results from other games which you have no idea how the conversation was handled on the backside to dbd and vice versa.
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Yeah its pretty big bs. This trophy alone is the reason I won't be getting them all on ps5, I had them all on ps4 and I'll only be getting the new trophies on ps5.
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I'm here to chime in! I'm very close to 100% for DBD (including All-Kill chapter!) and I'm telling you this is farrrrr too time consuming for someone on console! Please change it! I know Overwatch changed several trophies and continue to do so, so it's possible! Please and thank you! <3
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It's a pretty similar conversation. "Hey, we need to change this trophy as a QOL sort of balance." I don't think they care enough to reject a request from the developer.
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I honestly forgot I even made this post as I don't browse these forums too often. I definitely think there's other annoying trophies. Such as Left Behind like you mentioned, but I don't think it's far to discredit this ridiculous trophy.
Off the top of my head:
From the void she kills - 3 Nurse blinks then grab
Where did they go!? All 4 escape through hatch
Evil Incarnate - Kill all 4 in Evil Within III
Item of Obsession - Escape last without getting hit once
Taking One For The Team - BS Grind, way too many protective unhooks needed
All of the Killer Adepts are also poorly made as the Emblem System is horrible. But you can just wait until you're brown rank and it becomes easier.
I'd say:
1) Left Behind
2) Skilled Huntress
3) Taking One For The Team
4) Evil Incarnate
5) From the void she kills
6) Item of Obsession
7) Where did they go!?
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Just came to the realization that the Survs have to be 24+m away for this, and no tracking on how many you already have on PSN either, so yay...
Honestly I don't get that it has to be so many Power-Downs, most Killers have a req ranging from 20-50, and most of em are just Hits not even downs, so what's up with that Cascading requirement of Power+Down+Range+HugeAmount on Huntress.. no wonder it's the rarest Trophy out of all, for any other Killer you just have to play them a bit, Huntress you have to Main or play like a total jackass...
I don't think they will ever change it, considering how long ago it was changed for Steam/Box, and how old that Topic is already... :(
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What I did, was just message people asking if I could down them once or twice in a round. Some gave me a bit more since they wanted to help me out. Eventually I got it (when people said no, I would respect that too, of course).
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BHVR can't change it on PlayStation due to Sony's draconian rules about trophies. According to what BHVR has said in the past, a trophy's requirements can only be changed if it becomes literally impossible to earn (like due to updated game mechanics or removing the character).
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I agree, but I think this is something you'll have to take up with Sony.
I wish you all the best.
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