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Coldwind Farm

Boss
Boss Member Posts: 13,617

Apparently, that location is where Survivors have more of a chance to escape.
All 5 CF (Coldwind Farm) maps are in the top 8, which is just absurd.

Why do i bring this up?
I can't relate to it.
These maps are where i shine the most as Killer.
I'm not arguing with the stats, i'm saying that i'm surprised Killers perform that much worse on CF.
Is it the corn? Cause i sometimes see complaints about those, and i can't relate to that issue either.

Anyway, this is a good time to talk about it: What do you think about Coldwind Farm in general, what do you think about the 5 maps & what do you think about these stats?

Comments

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    Do we know if those stats included console?

    I can imagine on console it may be a proper lag fest and would increase the survival rate

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    The frame-rate is bad in the corn. Easier to lose the killer on console. Shelter Woods is just garbage to play on for the frame-rate. I wasn't surprised to see the stats on that.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @fcc2014 said:
    The frame-rate is bad in the corn. Easier to lose the killer on console. Shelter Woods is just garbage to play on for the frame-rate. I wasn't surprised to see the stats on that.

    Hm.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    Well Coldwind Farm does have very few pallet loops that can be mindgamed, especially since jungle jyms are transparent in those maps. Maybe that's a reason as well. As killer though, I do enjoy three of the five Coldwin maps, Thompson House in fact is one of my favorite maps to play on as killer. Rotten Fields and Cowshed are the two I rather dislike, especially rotten fields, since I can't seem to ever find a survivor on that map, and that map is so huge.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @ad19970 said:
    Well Coldwind Farm does have very few pallet loops that can be mindgamed, especially since jungle jyms are transparent in those maps. Maybe that's a reason as well. As killer though, I do enjoy three of the five Coldwin maps, Thompson House in fact is one of my favorite maps to play on as killer. Rotten Fields and Cowshed are the two I rather dislike, especially rotten fields, since I can't seem to ever find a survivor on that map, and that map is so huge.

    Eyy, a fellow Thompson House fan.

  • Might_Oakk
    Might_Oakk Member Posts: 1,243
    edited November 2018

    Well prior to the last couple updates maps like torment creek were the worst in the game for killer due to the tile placement. These maps feel fairly balanced now.

    The problem with "stats" provided by the devs they don't differentiate between new and old players. Rank stats are meaningless since it's so easy to rank up they have to reset it every month.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,950

    It has been this way forever.
    Every killer knows the corn blindness. Mid chase - one spin - #########, where is he gone?
    And with the new Spirit map it is corn blindness deluxe.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Family residence was also up there. It's pretty easy to win there, you just gotta patrol the 3 gens closest to the house and 1 in the middle, if you waste time by the shack you gonna have a hard time finding survivors

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @Wolf74 said:
    It has been this way forever.
    Every killer knows the corn blindness. Mid chase - one spin - #########, where is he gone?
    And with the new Spirit map it is corn blindness deluxe.

    Yeah, again, that's never ever a problem for me.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,950

    @Boss said:

    @Wolf74 said:
    It has been this way forever.
    Every killer knows the corn blindness. Mid chase - one spin - #########, where is he gone?
    And with the new Spirit map it is corn blindness deluxe.

    Yeah, again, that's never ever a problem for me.

    Than your lucky.
    My guess is that most killer player do suffer from corn blindness and only a few do not and the stats seem to support that idea.

  • BloodyNights
    BloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    I suffer from the corn blindness, and as I primarily play Michael. It not only gives away my position, it also gets in the way of me being able to stalk even though I can personally see them running from me.

    On the Game map I usually kill everyone every single time. So...the list for the most part makes sense to me. However...I for some reason have a low rate of living on the corn maps....and usually every time I get on one it's against a Hillbilly with tons of room to roam around the map lol

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    I think one of the reasons why is totem placement, there isn't a single hard to find totem on that map. I hate to say it but the main reason why survivors can't escape is because of Ruin.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222

    It's because Nea is killer.
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    Nea is killer because all survivors are killers.
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    All survivors are killers because they are CHILDREN OF THE CORN.

  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167
    thesuicidefox said:

    It's because Nea is killer.
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    Nea is killer because all survivors are killers.
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    All survivors are killers because they are CHILDREN OF THE CORN.

    you deserve a medal
  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167
    let’s be real for a sec
    who even likes the corn as killer
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Boss said:
    Apparently, that location is where Survivors have more of a chance to escape.
    All 5 CF (Coldwind Farm) maps are in the top 8, which is just absurd.

    Why do i bring this up?
    I can't relate to it.
    These maps are where i shine the most as Killer.
    I'm not arguing with the stats, i'm saying that i'm surprised Killers perform that much worse on CF.
    Is it the corn? Cause i sometimes see complaints about those, and i can't relate to that issue either.

    Anyway, this is a good time to talk about it: What do you think about Coldwind Farm in general, what do you think about the 5 maps & what do you think about these stats?

    Imagine playing on console. You have horrible fps and ######### controller aim, now there is corn blocking your vision and survivors 360ing all day.

    I already hate it on PC, but when I think about console plebs..... it must hurt

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Most people are cornblind. Fixing cornblindness with ReShade and maybe shadowborn and everyone would perform better. At least I did. Before ReShade I lost everyone in corn 
  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Master said:

    @Boss said:
    Apparently, that location is where Survivors have more of a chance to escape.
    All 5 CF (Coldwind Farm) maps are in the top 8, which is just absurd.

    Why do i bring this up?
    I can't relate to it.
    These maps are where i shine the most as Killer.
    I'm not arguing with the stats, i'm saying that i'm surprised Killers perform that much worse on CF.
    Is it the corn? Cause i sometimes see complaints about those, and i can't relate to that issue either.

    Anyway, this is a good time to talk about it: What do you think about Coldwind Farm in general, what do you think about the 5 maps & what do you think about these stats?

    Imagine playing on console. You have horrible fps and ######### controller aim, now there is corn blocking your vision and survivors 360ing all day.

    I already hate it on PC, but when I think about console plebs..... it must hurt

    scratch marks become useless and the frame rate drop provides a guaranteed sight line break and escape

  • Rex_Huin
    Rex_Huin Member Posts: 1,208

    @Boss said:
    Apparently, that location is where Survivors have more of a chance to escape.
    All 5 CF (Coldwind Farm) maps are in the top 8, which is just absurd.

    This is interesting. I have probably taken my worst beatings as a PS4 killer on Coldwind farm so I sort of suspected this might be the case.

    The cornfield is definitely a major factor.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,527
    Not really surprising with all that corn blindness. Trying to tier up on those maps as Myers is a chore.
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    I swear every time I play Freddy all I ever get is Farm, FARM, FARM!!!! It's so infuriating and it feels like there's so many variations of that map when there's only 5!!!! Yeah, Swap used to be my least favorite but that's changed since they reduced the size of it and it has some nice hidden totems sometimes but corn is one of my least favorites now.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    PC here, but i dont have problems with corn blindness. I actually like corn, it has a different kind of skill to hide and search through the corn. Both survivor and killer want to run it in opposite ways. But the jungle gyms and tiles are unfair to play as killer. You cant mindgame them, which means 2-3 vaults for decent survivors. Coupled with the cowtree and strong main buildings, there is not much room to outplay survivors, so it usually results in a loss. In my experience, a lot of "bad" losses are on coldwind farm.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    I pretty much expected the corn to be at least A factor, but i didn't imagine it would be this common amongst the community.
    I guess i really am lucky...

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    here are some factors to why these maps are pretty hard for killers:
    1: the amount of pallets is very high. also, these pallets are mostly save and decent survivors wont go down at one of these. that said, kicking it will give them enough time to get to another pallet and do the same.
    2: corn blindness is a real thing. i personally dont have a big issue wit hit, but others do, so they loose their prey fairly easy.
    3: the cow tree. this thing is a huge loop and it is on every coldwind farm map. this is also something which cannot be seen on other maps. usually, maps have 2 big loops: the killer shack + the main building (excluding indoor maps for obvious reasons), but the farm has this 3rd one on top of these two, which is a huuge time waster.
    4: bad totem placement is common, but the farm has some of the worst totem places ive ever seen. like, literally in the middle of the cornfield with no cover at all, right next to the gen or on top of the hill (which is still pretty easy to find, but its better now)
    5: not all of these maps are wide and open, like the slaugtherhouse, so there is a lot of ######### around making it hard for you as a killer to get a good open field chase going, as it should be in a corn field.

    feel free to add stuff.
    if you LOL this, tell me why. (yes, i will write this down every time i post sthg serious now, as im really sick of getting LOL ratings without any explanation of why ppl voted that.)

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @Mister_xD said:
    here are some factors to why these maps are pretty hard for killers:
    1: the amount of pallets is very high. also, these pallets are mostly save and decent survivors wont go down at one of these. that said, kicking it will give them enough time to get to another pallet and do the same.
    2: corn blindness is a real thing. i personally dont have a big issue wit hit, but others do, so they loose their prey fairly easy.
    3: the cow tree. this thing is a huge loop and it is on every coldwind farm map. this is also something which cannot be seen on other maps. usually, maps have 2 big loops: the killer shack + the main building (excluding indoor maps for obvious reasons), but the farm has this 3rd one on top of these two, which is a huuge time waster.
    4: bad totem placement is common, but the farm has some of the worst totem places ive ever seen. like, literally in the middle of the cornfield with no cover at all, right next to the gen or on top of the hill (which is still pretty easy to find, but its better now)
    5: not all of these maps are wide and open, like the slaugtherhouse, so there is a lot of ######### around making it hard for you as a killer to get a good open field chase going, as it should be in a corn field.

    feel free to add stuff.
    if you LOL this, tell me why. (yes, i will write this down every time i post sthg serious now, as im really sick of getting LOL ratings without any explanation of why ppl voted that.)

    I LOL'd this because you asked me to tell you why if i did. ;)

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    That corn tho.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    The map is bad because of the jungle gyms, nothing more for me. I can't see why they haven't made the damn jungle-gyms not see through yet, it's probably a fix that can be done in a single patch.

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  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    @Boss said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    here are some factors to why these maps are pretty hard for killers:
    1: the amount of pallets is very high. also, these pallets are mostly save and decent survivors wont go down at one of these. that said, kicking it will give them enough time to get to another pallet and do the same.
    2: corn blindness is a real thing. i personally dont have a big issue wit hit, but others do, so they loose their prey fairly easy.
    3: the cow tree. this thing is a huge loop and it is on every coldwind farm map. this is also something which cannot be seen on other maps. usually, maps have 2 big loops: the killer shack + the main building (excluding indoor maps for obvious reasons), but the farm has this 3rd one on top of these two, which is a huuge time waster.
    4: bad totem placement is common, but the farm has some of the worst totem places ive ever seen. like, literally in the middle of the cornfield with no cover at all, right next to the gen or on top of the hill (which is still pretty easy to find, but its better now)
    5: not all of these maps are wide and open, like the slaugtherhouse, so there is a lot of ######### around making it hard for you as a killer to get a good open field chase going, as it should be in a corn field.

    feel free to add stuff.
    if you LOL this, tell me why. (yes, i will write this down every time i post sthg serious now, as im really sick of getting LOL ratings without any explanation of why ppl voted that.)

    I LOL'd this because you asked me to tell you why if i did. ;)

    darn xD

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    It isn't because of the corn, it's because of the tiles and tile placement.

    I'm not sure if there are even any tiles on the farm maps that do not contain a pallet (before the pallets are generated).

    Transparent walls are a huge factor as well.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @Tizzle said:
    It isn't because of the corn, it's because of the tiles and tile placement.

    I'm not sure if there are even any tiles on the farm maps that do not contain a pallet (before the pallets are generated).

    Transparent walls are a huge factor as well.

    Corn tiles don't have pallets. ;)