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Is leaving teammates behind okay?

So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

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  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167
    It is perfectly fine to do so, especially if they’re being camped. It is your decision and opinion that whether or not it is morally right to leave people behind- the guilt completely and intentionally set on the theme that your morals help develop your playstyle- I guess? 
    But it’s totally okay for you to leave someone behind, but just keep in mind the response you’ll most likely receive.
  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340
    I lowkey struggle with understanding this as well. I always feel bad leaving a teammate unless they deserve it. 
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,715

    You're not obliged to play in any particular way - Save/Leave who you want ;3

  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Unless in trying for that beeping no hurt obsession trophy I'm like see ya every time I've tried to help they ditch me to die on my first hook
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    It really depends on the type of killer you go against. Of course a Leatherface proxy the hook instead of a trapper is completely different. Play how you want.

  • OXY
    OXY Member Posts: 68
    I don't rescue Survivors under these three circumstances

    - If the Killer has NOED.
    - If the Survivor is being camped.
    - If I am being chased.

    If the Killer is patrolling the map and looking for me then i'll go for the rescue. Really this is the only suitable option imo.
  • Avariku
    Avariku Member Posts: 608
    leave them. 

    I never hold a grudge over someone leaving me to die after the gates are opened.

    I also rarely go back in for a hooked survivor. sometimes, yes, but I survive so few of my rounds that if I get the chance to bolt... I probably will.

    only circumstances where I WILL go back : 

    - I've already got enough bloodpoints to pip.
    - that particular person saved me at their own risk.
    - the killer is obviously not camping them
    - the killer has shown a lack of skill that pretty much guarantees a safe unhook and both of our escape.

    that's it... otherwise, I'm out.
  • purebalance
    purebalance Member Posts: 661

    @OXY said:
    I don't rescue Survivors under these three circumstances

    • If the Killer has NOED.
    • If the Survivor is being camped.
    • If I am being chased.

    If the Killer is patrolling the map and looking for me then i'll go for the rescue. Really this is the only suitable option imo.

    As soon as I see NOED I go on a hunt for it as best as I can. I have really good totem seeking ability.

  • purebalance
    purebalance Member Posts: 661

    @Avariku said:
    leave them. 

    I never hold a grudge over someone leaving me to die after the gates are opened.

    I also rarely go back in for a hooked survivor. sometimes, yes, but I survive so few of my rounds that if I get the chance to bolt... I probably will.

    only circumstances where I WILL go back : 

    • I've already got enough bloodpoints to pip.
    • that particular person saved me at their own risk.
    • the killer is obviously not camping them
    • the killer has shown a lack of skill that pretty much guarantees a safe unhook and both of our escape.

    that's it... otherwise, I'm out.

    Bloodpoints and pip are not the same. You can have a ton of BP and done unsafe hook rescues which demolish your Benevolent emblem(-55% for each I think). Also landing pallets gets a ton of bold as do other things that don't contribute to pip'ing.

  • purebalance
    purebalance Member Posts: 661

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    If you did next to nothing and the hooked person did most of the work, you owe it to them because you'd be on that hook otherwise. I constantly have had games where I've double pipped and got left on the hook on my very first hook while 2 others just leave. Like literally did 3 generators solo and done about 4 hook saves and they just leave without the killer camping. Utter nonsense. If the person you refused to save has more points than you even with you getting that 5k, you didn't deserve to escape.

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,248
    You're free to escape anytime. 
    The whole team mentalitiy of leaving none behind comes from the players, not game design. 
    Randoms or swf telling you to save them?
    Thats just peer pressure or their greed to escape too.
  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    If they are selfish then they are not worthy of you trading your escape for theirs. If they are not selfish, they will understand getting left behind if it means others escape. If they saved you or they were key in keeping the killer busy it's your call, but everyone has been in that caught last position. Having to do that work just to risk having a killer get a free 4k should feel like more of failure than their death.

    If the killer is acting like a hostage taker and doing the camp of shame with high chance of just increasing the killer's kill count if a save attempt is made, they should do the noble thing and let go once they are sure the exits are open. Go out on their own terms.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited November 2018

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    If you did next to nothing and the hooked person did most of the work, you owe it to them because you'd be on that hook otherwise. I constantly have had games where I've double pipped and got left on the hook on my very first hook while 2 others just leave. Like literally did 3 generators solo and done about 4 hook saves and they just leave without the killer camping. Utter nonsense. If the person you refused to save has more points than you even with you getting that 5k, you didn't deserve to escape.

    While this is morally and ethically the correct thing to do, it is by no means required or necessary nor should you be harassed for doing what you need to survive.  I've lost many games to doing gens to die and see a teammate with almost 0 bp escape, but hey, I got caught, they didnt. Just happens. 

    I've also lost games to trying to rescue a teammate just to get myself or both of us killed, and seen teammates throw an escape attempting the same on me.
  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230
    Absolutely yes.

    Just go if it's not safe to attempt a rescue. I see too many Killers get undeserved end-game kills due to overly altruistic Survivors.
  • Tre_G4Fx
    Tre_G4Fx Member Posts: 7
    I always go for the save no matter what.
  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    This: 

    Tre_G4Fx said:
    I always go for the save no matter what.
    Is what this is talking about:

    Absolutely yes.

    Just go if it's not safe to attempt a rescue. I see too many Killers get undeserved end-game kills due to overly altruistic Survivors.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959
    1. As a killer, I see way to many matches that should result in a 1k, that turn into a 3k instead, because of survivor trying to save no matter what. That's one of the reasons the Dev stats are bullcrap. To many survivor rather risk dying than leaving someone behind.
    2. If the killer got his only kill on the hook: gtfo! No need to further humiliate and bully a killer and trying to rob his only kill. Survivor complain about killer not giving hatch or let the last escape, on the flipside 3 player will rescue and bodyblock if the killer performed weak.
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Just play smart. Save if u think u can safely rescue someone, just don't give 4K to the killer.
  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Perfectly fine to leave people behind and in a lot of cases it's the smartest move because you could just end up giving the Killer more kills.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    Just escape, otherwise all you do is allowing the Killer to get free kills. The chances of you both getting killed in process is a lot higher than the chances of you both escaping.

    This stupid altruism is the reason why many Killers still manage to pip and get kills even after performing absolutely horrible.

  • Alona
    Alona Member Posts: 40

    When I am on the hook, the gates are open and the killer is camping, I always want the others to escape. It's way better than dying for me.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Trick question!
    As Survivor, you have no teammates.
    Seriously though, that's completely fine.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Your escape is not more important to me than mine. If it's not safe, you're staying on the hook.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    you should always just go staying around is basically toxic behavior as you just prolong the game

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    you should always just go staying around is basically toxic behavior as you just prolong the game

    I wasnt even talking about endgame. If there is one of those clicky DS guys, I either do gens and complete ignore them or it might happen that they get "accidentially" farmed :wink:

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    you should always just go staying around is basically toxic behavior as you just prolong the game

    I wasnt even talking about endgame. If there is one of those clicky DS guys, I either do gens and complete ignore them or it might happen that they get "accidentially" farmed :wink:

    lol so true honestly if the obsession wants my attention i always ignore them because surprise they always no matter what will follow you and you can end up bodyblocking them and because i play myers and almost always run a tombstone piece nighty night #########

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    you should always just go staying around is basically toxic behavior as you just prolong the game

    I wasnt even talking about endgame. If there is one of those clicky DS guys, I either do gens and complete ignore them or it might happen that they get "accidentially" farmed :wink:

    lol so true honestly if the obsession wants my attention i always ignore them because surprise they always no matter what will follow you and you can end up bodyblocking them and because i play myers and almost always run a tombstone piece nighty night [BAD WORD]

    Haha yeah, but I was talking about me playing survivor.
    I dont tolerate toxic survivors, no matter on which side I currently play :wink:

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162
    1. > @Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    @Master said:

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    It is ok even if there is an option that invovles both of you escaping.
    All this overaltruism only became a thing with SWF.

    I will always let toxic survivors die btw :lol:

    you should always just go staying around is basically toxic behavior as you just prolong the game

    I wasnt even talking about endgame. If there is one of those clicky DS guys, I either do gens and complete ignore them or it might happen that they get "accidentially" farmed :wink:

    lol so true honestly if the obsession wants my attention i always ignore them because surprise they always no matter what will follow you and you can end up bodyblocking them and because i play myers and almost always run a tombstone piece nighty night [BAD WORD]

    Haha yeah, but I was talking about me playing survivor.
    I dont tolerate toxic survivors, no matter on which side I currently play :wink:

    good for you then

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,293

    Always keep in mind you are under no obligation to save anyone, in reality the other players are not your team mates they are just other players you may want to protect at times for you own benefit as the more alive the more chance you have of escaping.

    You have to play it smart, if the killer camps do gens as it punishes them for doing the deed, you can almost be certain they will also go straight after the hooked person in that scenario so if you want to risk it wait until they are almost at the struggle phase or you are giving the killer more time.

    At end game and once the gates are opened I will go for the risky saves if I have managed to do enough throughout the game, it all comes to down to a personal choice, if I can save I will if its risky and going to reward the other side I wont, much like If I am on the Hook let me be and do the objective, dont let my sacrifice be in vain, use it to your advantage and get out of the match asap.

  • Rex_Huin
    Rex_Huin Member Posts: 1,208

    Once the gates are open I might look for a nearby totem or chest for some extra points before I leave but I never go back for anyone.

    5000 points for escaping why risk losing them.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    On the one hand, as others have mentioned, they're not technically your teammates, (unless they're actually your friends or something) so in that sense you have no obligation to them. However, you do lose benevolence points for leaving them behind, so if you care about ranking up that's something to consider, not to mention the bloodpoints you might have gotten for the unhook (which obviously is only worth it if you then escape). So even if you do choose to be selfish, there are consequences.

    In terms of emblems, you will probably lose more for letting your teammates die than you will for not escaping. So if you care about ranking up more than you do about bloodpoints, you might want to seriously consider going for the save regardless of circumstances. (Anyone who actually knows the numbers, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) If the hook is close-ish to a gate, if the killer isn't facecamping, if they're not even close to the hook, if you have borrowed time, if the hooked person has sprint burst or an unactivated adrenaline, if you have perks or items that will allow you to heal them quickly and/or make a quick escape... all of those are situations in which you can usually unhook someone and both escape (assuming they're not a moron who runs straight into the killer or something). So in those cases it's usually worth it, plus it sets your mind at ease.

    Which leads me to the final point. It is never okay to insult or harass someone in the chat no matter what they did, and as we already established you are under no moral obligation to save them. It's not unjust for you to leave them behind. However, letting someone die who you could have saved (you will notice I'm not talking about trying to save them when it's obviously just going to end in both of your deaths), especially if you don't show any remorse for it, will be interpreted by most people as a statement of your character. They may not trust you if you meet again in a future game, or may even hold a grudge and feel the need to take revenge by leaving you to die. If you're okay with the other players thinking that you're the kind of person who wouldn't risk their own life to save a stranger's, and the potential relational ramifications don't bother you, then there's no ethical reason for you to be concerned.

    TL;DR: From a moral standpoint, the answer is yes, it's okay. But there are valid reasons to save them anyway. It comes down to your own personal convictions (should the way you behave in a game be informed by your real-life ideals, do you even care about being kind or self-sacrificial to strangers under any circumstances) and your priorities (is doing well in the game more important than being virtuous, do you care more about points, ranking up, or making friends). You should weigh up these things and do what you consider to be the right thing (or most beneficial thing, depending on where your priorities lie) under the circumstances.

  • Cetren
    Cetren Member Posts: 985
    While I sometimes don't understand why people don't come save me, it's perfectly acceptable. I've done the same thing.

    I remember one recent game where the teammates were like yeah you did nothing end game, you just sat at the gate. And the killer was like, "yeah, I was waiting for your teammates, why didnt you come save them?"


    Like, idk, maybe because YOU WERE WAITING FOR ME TO COME. Lmao. Just ditch them bro, don't let it weigh on your conscience, and if they rage, just let them bathe in the fact that you escaped and they didn't. 
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited November 2018
    What ever position someone takes is basically just their opinion.

    In my case? If you feel like you can, and do, I appreciate it, but if you aren't sure, just leave.
    I'd rather be sacrificed and everyone else escape than be the downfall of another.
    Being enough of a distraction that people escape is a win for me. 

    If I can, I will tap the escape attempt button to show I'm being camped, or kill myself while
    https://youtu.be/-9-Te-DPbSE
    Goes through my head. Or something like that.

    If I'm still running, I'd appreciate it if you distracted the killer somehow by staying at the gates, or hatch if you absolutely must, or what ever you feel bold enough to do.
    Post edited by Rebel_Raven on
  • issh0man
    issh0man Member Posts: 4
    i think it just heavily differs from person to person.

    i play altruistically, my goal is to get everyone else out and am ok with dying. if someone is hooked with the exit gates open, I always go back for them and will die so they get out.
  • If you’re on death hook, sure. 
    If that survivor farmed you or didn’t do ######### all game, sure. 

    Early this morning i went down rescuing this dude near an open gate. Before the killer even hooked me he was already out of the gate. His SWF teammate made a dumb play trying to rescue me and got snatched off the rescue. Killer took him across to a different hook, I Kobe’d off and ran out of the gate. 

    My reasoning:

    1. His SWF teammate left 
    2. I was hurt with no self care
    3. I was on death hook
  • AnthonyC2014
    AnthonyC2014 Member Posts: 91

    @Avariku said:
    leave them. 

    I never hold a grudge over someone leaving me to die after the gates are opened.

    I also rarely go back in for a hooked survivor. sometimes, yes, but I survive so few of my rounds that if I get the chance to bolt... I probably will.

    only circumstances where I WILL go back : 

    • I've already got enough bloodpoints to pip.
    • that particular person saved me at their own risk.
    • the killer is obviously not camping them
    • the killer has shown a lack of skill that pretty much guarantees a safe unhook and both of our escape.

    that's it... otherwise, I'm out.

    That part where you said they saved you at their own risk...
    That reminds me of this one Dwight I played with as Feng, I forget which killer we were against, and after one other person died, he became altruistic to the very end. Meg over here is able to escape, and just as I'm getting the gate open, Dwight leads the killer towards me thinking the gates almost open. I use Lithe to escape and go back as Dwight takes the aggro while I get the gate opened. He ends up getting downed and hooked, and I realize "I can't save him." So I leave.
    Meg calls me a jerk for leaving him behind after he saves me, even though she bolted the second he started getting attacked.

  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181
    edited November 2018

    I almost always feel bad for leaving other survivors to die, but sometimes you're better off getting yourself out. It's not bannable or anything if that's what you're worried about. You're not obliged by any sort of rules to get anyone out but yourself.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @AnthonyC2014 said:
    So I play survivor, and I have always had a problem with one thing I do near the endgame.
    Leaving my teammates to die. If I feel like I have no other option, I will leave my teammates behind if they have been downed and are on a hook. My teammates have told me "Just let him kill you and save me." or things like that.
    Is this okay if there is no other option that involves both of us escaping? For the most part, I have to look after #1...

    Others have already answered your question but might I add that often I don't want someone to try and save me. I've played this game since release and have almost everything maxed/unlocked so I just mess around in matches now. One of my more common builds is meant to be hyper "savior" focused so I will often sacrifice myself to see others escape. For this reason I've been placed on a hook plenty of times where I will then try and buy time while being patrolled near or possibly face camped. The problem I often see is that people don't take me saving them as a gift and instead throw it away trying to save me from impossible odds. LEAVE ME TO DIE PLEASE!

  • michaelmyers87
    michaelmyers87 Member Posts: 458
    Playing this game for over a year I don’t care much about surviving anymore. Especially if it was easy to power the gates and someone got hooked, I’ll put myself at great risk to save the person. 

    But yes if they are running NOED then it’s plain stupid. 


  • michaelmyers87
    michaelmyers87 Member Posts: 458
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 
  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    Although you are not wrong there are way more factors at play then simply being a "newbie" that determine if the risk/reward of saving is better than leaving.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Orion said:

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

    Actually he used "newbie" not "noobie" both have a different definition. The meaning of "newbie" is someone new to the game/situation at hand. I have to agree that new players are more likely to feel like leaving rather than saving someone, I just don't believe its the only reason why people make the choice.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Orion said:

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

    Actually he used "newbie" not "noobie" both have a different definition. The meaning of "newbie" is someone new to the game/situation at hand. I have to agree that new players are more likely to feel like leaving rather than saving someone, I just don't believe its the only reason why people make the choice.

    Last I checked (to be fair, that was a very long time ago), they're simply alternate spellings of the same word and with the same meaning.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Orion said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Orion said:

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

    Actually he used "newbie" not "noobie" both have a different definition. The meaning of "newbie" is someone new to the game/situation at hand. I have to agree that new players are more likely to feel like leaving rather than saving someone, I just don't believe its the only reason why people make the choice.

    Last I checked (to be fair, that was a very long time ago), they're simply alternate spellings of the same word and with the same meaning.

    pretty sure noob is just a slang for new person and newb was also a slang and because people love slang we accepted both of them and now those to lazy to type newb now just double tap o for a simpler spelling noob mostly just comes down to lazyness

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Orion said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Orion said:

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

    Actually he used "newbie" not "noobie" both have a different definition. The meaning of "newbie" is someone new to the game/situation at hand. I have to agree that new players are more likely to feel like leaving rather than saving someone, I just don't believe its the only reason why people make the choice.

    Last I checked (to be fair, that was a very long time ago), they're simply alternate spellings of the same word and with the same meaning.

    pretty sure noob is just a slang for new person and newb was also a slang and because people love slang we accepted both of them and now those to lazy to type newb now just double tap o for a simpler spelling noob mostly just comes down to lazyness

    Same here, but then again, I am quite old, in Internet terms.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Orion @friendlykillermain

    Here is the definition I got off Urban Dictionary:

    TOP DEFINITION
    Noobs vs. Newbs
    This is meant to distinguish between noobs and newbs, which can be very difficult to tell apart, based on behavior.
    NOOBS: Rely on cheap tactics to barely finish second-to-last on the team, and often blame others for their mistakes.
    Noobs have no ambition to get better at the game they fail at, and are happy just pissing off the rest of us.
    COMMUNICATING WITH NOOBS: Is not a good idea. The vast majority of encounters often end with noobs being brutal flamed in the pre-game lobbies, as noobs are unintelligent and slow-thinking. Any attempt to communicate with noobs is immediately met with a pre-set list of insults, such as "Shut the ######### up", "You wanna go one-on-one?", "I could ######### you", etc.
    NEWBS: Honest, humble, polite players who strive to better themselves by playing as a team and seeking the advice of others. Newbs are new to the game, so they don't know, and, when confronted after using noob tactics, apologize for their behavior and immediately cease all noob activity.
    COMMUNICATION WITH NEWBS: One of the most pleasant conversations ever on Xbox Live/Playstation Network. When you start talking to them, you realize they are different from noobs, and that they are sorry for their behavior.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Newbie is kinda nicer.
    Newb is already getting gritty.
    But Noob is basically someone who isn't a real newbie anymore, but still plays like one.
    (Noob = Newbie out of brain)

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Orion said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Orion said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Orion said:

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    The more of a newbie you are, the more likely you are to just leave. 

    "I don't care about the primary aspect of the Survivor role, so those who do are noobs."

    Actually he used "newbie" not "noobie" both have a different definition. The meaning of "newbie" is someone new to the game/situation at hand. I have to agree that new players are more likely to feel like leaving rather than saving someone, I just don't believe its the only reason why people make the choice.

    Last I checked (to be fair, that was a very long time ago), they're simply alternate spellings of the same word and with the same meaning.

    pretty sure noob is just a slang for new person and newb was also a slang and because people love slang we accepted both of them and now those to lazy to type newb now just double tap o for a simpler spelling noob mostly just comes down to lazyness

    Same here, but then again, I am quite old, in Internet terms.

    same though i hate all these new phrases ive said oof for a long time now that its a meme people think i just jumped on the bandwagon and its really annoying also just using the term jumped on the bandwagon reveals im not from this era