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What killer needs a nerf the most??
For me It’s either Spirit, or Nurse. What about you???
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Easily Spirit, as Freddy already got hammered to the ground, and Nurse's skill floor rewards her players with power. Spirit is just too easy to play as, does not have consistent counterplay, and she is WAY too powerful. She's not stronger than Nurse, but the fact that anyone can pick her up, a killer who is almost as powerful as Nurse, is pretty ridiculous to me.
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I genuinely pyramid head's ability to swap between ability and m1 so fast.
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None.
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Spirit
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I don't think any Killers need nerfed until we address the power imbalance between SWF's and the rest of the game.
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Nea.
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Spirit. It's basically all up to her with the Survivor having to guess and hope. Yes it can feel amazing to juke her, but that usually means she doesn't have the best hearing or isn't running Stridor against a IW user.
Nurse is still a broken character, but I don't know if I really want to see her nerfed cause I feel it could break her to be nonexistant... easily.
Not really sold Freddy's nerfs will hurt him as much as people pretend it will. I hope it just makes him harder to use and less frequent. Which honestly, is what I'm mainly hoping for... less of him. Have to wait to see where he ends up.
I'll get stoned for this as I already have, but I don't like Wraith currently. He could very well be the easiest Killer to play in the game, and I'm seeing him a lot more in Red Ranks and having A LOT of success in the Red Ranks. I'm still thinking he is going to be the new Freddy. A very simple and easy Killer to use who can 4K most matches even in the Red Ranks with minimal effort on his part. No huge nerfs, but I think he could use a small tone down for how painfully simple he is to play.
Hag needs to not be able to trap in a certain radius of a hook. Good Hags don't camp and tunnel hooks. I played her back in the stun when teleporting was a thing, you current era Hags are spoiled rotten!
Not a fan of Blight, but I'm not sure I'd call him overpowered minus the J Flick. I just wish I stopped facing him on Shelter Woods. That map is basically a win for him. Blegh.
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I don't know why but have a pretty high escape rate against the Nurse. Maybe because I do a lot of sneaking? I don't know.
The Spirit on the other hand. She can get nerfed and the tip toward OP territory that they just gave the Wraith could stand to be dialed back to how it was before as well.
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Pretty sure they actually just patched that out recently. He can no longer fake using his power and then immediately m1.
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I don’t really think anyone needs a nerf tbh aside from spirit needing a tell when phasing.
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Id much sooner buff a lot of killers than Han out nerfs honestly, besides for spirit.
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what do you mean good hags proxy hooks all the time
she is a campy killer if you take it away from her she becomes pretty bad
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Deathslinger. Why a ranged killer doesn't have a terror radius, has near-hitscan, and extreme range, is beyond me. Huntress has a 45 meter hum, hatchet wind-up with very loud audio cues, slower hatchet throws with speed that only increases if you hold it, and has to reload specifically at lockers--time consuming, and inconvenient a lot of the time, and isn't conducive with chases. But Deathslinger? He's a Huntress with none of those weaknesses.
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Nurse needs to be nurffed since she’s the best killer in the game and ignores everything. If you think different your bad
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Nah, good hags use her power in chase or to defend entire sections of the map. Bad hags spam traps around hooks and rely on survivors altruism instead of learning how to zone and where to place traps to end chases or shut down loops. Yes good hags will occasionally trap the hook but it's usually one trap (when the game starts going sideways for them) and most of the time they don't even teleport to it just use it as a stall for unhooks.
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Spirit hands down
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Freddy needs a nerf. an experienced player using freddy with ruin undying tinkerer is a hell let lose of a match, imagine pairing those with knock out and leave people on the ground in case you get tinkerer once you downed somebody.
ofcourse this whole changes once you lose your totems but on some maps.. good luck finding both totems before losing a match.
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They're not good Hags if they are relying on downing unhooks or MYC easy downs. Though I'm the type that likes to challenge myself and play more active and fair to the other side and not use the easiest and cheapest methods to win. People wouldn't hate Hag as much if more people played her more aggressive web instead of 5 traps at a hook Hag.
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Its already patched, he has a slowdown when changing attacks
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Spirit is too much of a gamble to play against, and the 'see survivor auras' add-on for the Wraith is too strong.
It's also unfair that while the trail of torment, which doesn't do anything until the survivor is downed, and even then simply makes it easier to 'hook' and 'unhook' the target, can't be placed near hooks or objectives, but Hag's 6 meter diameter traps can be planted under a hook to make it impossible to get a rescue.
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She had a tell when phasing on release and it made her laughibly bad. This suggestion is a no-go unless she gets something in return.
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None of them need a nerf, they all are already weak enough besides Nurse which is the only killer in the game you can't dominate by default.
Why would you even nerf any killers, the game is objectively survivor sided.
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Nope, likely a troll comment though.
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Nurse, she is genuinely broken when you get good with her. She needs a full rework tbh. Strong Killers are fine, but killers which can straight up ignore every possible defence the survivors have is... not so fine.
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I think for the most part they are all pretty balanced. In the hands of a good player - almost any killer can be considered OP.
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none u surv main noob
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Spirit, just remove her phase walk and she becomes a perfectly balanced killer that’s is far healthier for the game
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Really? I wasn’t around back then but doesn’t she move incredibly fast during phasing and survivors don’t know which direction you’re coming from
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Freddy will never be nerfed enough until he's deleted from the game, so Freddy
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Hag..
- Ever face a good Hag on Midwitch? No? Lucky you
- Ever face a good Hag 3 gen guarding? No? Lucky you
- Ever face a Mint Rag Hag with MYC? No? Lucky you
- Ever face a basement camping Hag? No? Lucky you
- Ever face a good Hag on an indoor map? No? Lucky you
- Ever face a good scroll-wheel Hag? No? Lucky you
There's so many more including just a regular camping Hag but I decided to keep this list short. Hate everything about her.
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What part of wraith you want toned down?
Or what changes you would make on him?
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Meg...with a mask.
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I love how everyone names killers that ignore the running in circles meta to some degree.
We can´t ask survivors to change (adapt) their playstyle even in the slightest, right?
Anyway, here is some music you can play while running in circles.
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I take it you have bad games against him?
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Pig
she only needs to M1 twice.
pretty broken if you ask me
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spirit of course, with stridor she basically has no counter
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Spirit + Nurse.
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I mean, some need rebalancing but not nerfs, the issue with killers isn't strength but design (maybe aside from nurse).
If twins got a bunch of nerfs and buffs and they stayed at the same power level I would be happy because twins are horribly designed.
Other than spirit, twins and freddy I really cannot think of any other killer that needs drastic changes.
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Nerf Spirit. Nerf her post-phase lunge and up the chase music while in phase to force her to use more visual cues in chases.
Buff Pig, Clown and Trapper by giving their basekit an additional 1 or 2 items (6-7 bottles for clown, + 1 or 2 traps for Pig & Trapper)
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Just Spirit. She’s just annoying and unfun to play against.
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The only killer I have issue with is Spirit. I don't think that she should be nuked because I do think there should be killers that are actually challenging to go against, but I would change her a little bit to make her less of a hassle to go against.
My biggest change to her would to make it more obvious when she is spirit walking. I've heard that she will twitch her arm a certain way and her "shards" will glow, but that's often difficult to notice and I have also heard that some skins cover up those shards. A tiny change I would suggest is giving her a slight blue glow around her body/husk so it's easier to distinguish when she is spirit walking.
And that's pretty much all I would do. I'm not sure if I agree with suggestions I've heard before of her being slightly visible while spirit walking, as I feel that that would nerf her perhaps too much.
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Spirit is easily the second strongest killer. There’s no way a tell on phasing would have that much of an effect on her viability. You already know when she’s phasing in 90% of situations anyways and a tell would simply help put an end to the “mind game” of standing still at short loops to get a free hit. I don’t see that free hit being the thing that makes her so strong, so I’m not convinced that taking the free hit away will have much of an impact on her power level.
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Nurse is definitely the game breaking killer right now. Sure her skill ceiling is high, but once you learn her, she's unstoppable. I would say Nurse needs a rework instead of a nerf. Being able to teleport removes any counter-play a survivor can use against her. Maybe remove the ability to teleport through objects and pallets but give her more teleports.
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If you think Clown has gotten a lot of buffs, you should check out Wraith. I believe he is somewhere close to 20 buffs since release.
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I had a match today, as Spirit in Ormond. Using Dragon grib / Haunted ground / Make your choice / Noed.
Early game, I saw a survivor trying to cleanse my Haunted ground, I act like didnt see them, but I phased back and grab. A hook in under 1min. No need to say, I have alot pressure from that hook.
Funny thing, that was the only phase I did in that game, the rest I just "standing mind game". Still had 9/12 hooks. 2k.
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A lot complained about Freddy and he got a Nurf, it is not a big one but when people aren't that skilled compared to red ranks and some of those have a lot of time in the game it can be hard. i struggle against them and still learning i also main Freddy.
They will just find someone else to complain about and Nurf then move on again... until all killers are nurfed and survivors are at their strongest.
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I think they will do something if many keep complaining. but if you love a character and true to them and learn them well then people will continue to be great with them.
Freddy is really fun to play as and i love playing against him too. he is fun! no just that the character in general too :)
That would be great! it is nice meeting other Freddy players. we all stick together! <3
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Spirit uggghh can’t stand her
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Running in circles is how dbd is enjoyed by a lot of people hence why they hate killers who don’t do it.
The only killer that needs toning down imo is nurse since just ignores the entire game
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