Why do people care about the survivor/killer gender now ? ( Read before commenting )
Im just trying to figure out why does everyone want a specific gender for a killer or survivor it shouldn't matter if a character is just a male or female and not lgbt related I mean its just a game. Idk why people want to get deep down into the killer/survivor lore. Im not saying im for or against people who support lgbt because I respect people regardless of their gender so dont think that this is an attack its just a question. Maybe the devs could put out cosmetics that represent that particular community so that those who support it can be happy i guess idk. Even though Im straight this is just something I wanted to know so again dont think im attacking people. Also note that im not saying that I dont want this kind of stuff in the game its just that I want know the answer to my question.
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People what it because the devs said they are doing it. Also feeling represented in a game is a really nice feeling
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Not everyone is the same. Like, I could not care less about anything from the characters, I am not identifying myself with any Character, so for me, it is not important at all, I will play them, if I like the gameplay.
However, other people might want to play a character which is similar to them in some aspects. This does not mean that it is important for everyone that the Character is male or female, if the Character belongs to any ethnicity or if they are LGBTQ+ or not, however, there are people who would like representation in the game.
Gameplay-wise it will not change much, it is "just" the Lore.
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you just admitted you don't care about the lore, so naturally you won't care.
for people who care about the lore, they do care, and have for a while. however these topics happen like once or twice a year, starting up the next Great Forum Representation Wars.
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@GoodBoyKaru I never said that I didnt care about the lore or "admitted in your words" because they are quite interesting and messed up for some of the killers and survivors its just why people want to go deep down with it.
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okay my bad
people have "suddenly started caring" due to a tweet from the developers last year stating that theyd now be adding explicitly lgbtq+ relationships and characters into the game's lore. since then, no such representation has shown up. that's why it's so "sudden".
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Some people like to feel represented by the characters they play, this can be especially true of minorities because they're overlooked in so many walks of life.
I never thought it mattered much to me, but then realised as a white, heterosexual woman, I'm pretty much represented everywhere, without even realising it.
Watching Friskk's video of seeing Elodie, really pushed home exactly how much representation can mean to someone and I do feel that we should do all we can to make people feel represented in DbD as we have a massively diverse playerbase.
If you don't feel the need to be represented, that's great for you. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to feel the same way.
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People just want it because people love to see themselves represented in media. It's nice to know that you exist. It's not really harmful to the game at all so it's not so bad.
If you don't want it that's fine but if you do its also fine.
(I'm going to be honest with you. Your sorta opening pandoras box with thus topic)
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its just a game
And tv shows are just for entertainment, but representation is still important.
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"See that mass murdering maniac in that game? Based on me!"
Great pickup line...
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You may not feel the need for representation but there are those that do and having representation matters. Just watch this video of how happy this streamer was to see Elodie added to the game.
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Personally I like to play with esthetic female characters. I knew from the beggining that my killer was Hauntress (i love her lullaby and mechanics). In case of survivors I only play Meg Thomas, Nancy, Nea....
Is not because they represent me, as I am a boy, i just like prefer playing with attractive or strong ladies.
For example, I find Bubba very disgusting. Dont like like his voice pack neither his appereance, so Im not interested on playing him. I´d prefer to learn playing spirit or plague. Plague is ugly but i like the way she moves (more classy) and also has and interesting voice pack. About legion, I like the female concept of Legion much more than the male legion.
So in my case, i give high importance to the aesthetics and gender components.
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People like representation and being able to relate to characters. I'm a straight white guy so I really don't have a hard time finding similar characters in pretty much any sort of media lol. But I'm also big into all sorts of rock and metal music which isn't always easy to find representation of; therefore I can relate to Jeff very well for example. I'm heavily Norwegian and into metal just like him.
Personally I want things that keep the community happy as long as it's healthy or just doesn't negatively affect the game and I think this is one of those things.
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Some people just want representation. Others understand that representation is a small first step that leads to normalisation.
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Representation matters so some people and to others it doesn't and thats fine.
I can say as a white dude that I can probably count the games where I've played as a Black male/female or Asian dude in a main character role on one hand. And I've never really questioned it because it was normal for me.
But imagine being in the shoes of, say, a young african american or asian teenager and seeing every game having buff white dudes or oversexualised blonde white women in every game. Then one game comes along and has a character who looks and sounds like you.
It's going to be a big deal.
For example, as far as comic book movies go Black Panther was pretty average, but it was the first major PG13 tentpole comic book movie featuring all black leads. I think the box office returns speak for themselves.
Again, it doesn't matter if you don't care, that's perfectly fine. But don't rag on others for caring.
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You guys are so privileged your biggest source of "nice feelings" is a videogame character
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or theyre sick and tired of dealing with oppression and other bullshit they seek comfort in video game characters?
couldn't possibly be it.
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What opression? Making doxxing groups for people who don't like you to get them fired and having every major corporation and government pandering to you?
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Did I ever say it was. I don’t really care if I get represented but a lot of people do
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I don’t care about representation nor about being represented, but this is uncalled for.
Seeing you in this thread and in a similar one commenting this type of thing, tells me you’re actively looking for a fight.
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what the ######### is wrong with you, seriously?
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Thank god this guy got banned, he's been wrecking havoc the last few days
Op, if it doesn't affect you personally, why do you care if others care?
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cant say im particularly shocked at the ban lol
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I apologise to the people that were able to discuss this topic in a civil and mature manner - there was obviously one that was unable to do this. The matter has been taken care of and I hope that there's no lasting offence to anyone. As you know, we promote inclusivity greatly, and it's something that means a lot to us, so comments of that nature, were never going to be acceptable here.
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Because I am tired of seeing white males being the default, I like diversity sorry
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thanks for that mandy, it was uh... a bit of an experience.
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I'm up for subtle representation, for example, the lore hinting they have a same-sex partner, their dress code hinting at being LGBT, etc.
A character with their whole identity based around being LGBT would be stupid. (I would love to see a perk called Sashay Away though)
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@MandyTalk I would really love a gay guy as a survivor though, just throwing it out there lolol
And by saying that, their identity doesn't have to revolve around them being gay, but a very handsome man that's a little feminine but with great style. However, not to the point it's cringe worthy lol
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Because maybe he WANTS to understand and is seeking out somebody who can explain in a way he gets it?
I know I didn't get it at first. I didn't go around asking because of the hostile reception I'd get for asking though.
Thank god for Jim Stephanie Sterling, they explained it in a way I finally "Got" and am now 100% behind it.
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Some people just want to play as characters that they can relate to. I personally don't care and don't think it's a must, but that's just me.
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I do wonder, if the movie was seperated from the rest of the marvel avengers story if it would have performed any different.
Personally i thought the movie was ok. Not the amazing blockbuster it was hyped as.
Was never a huge fan of the character in the comics, however there was a run by christopher priest that was absolutely amazing.
Off topic. Sorry OP
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The reason why you dont understand is because you are (I'm guess) represented in the game. When you're playing a game no matter if you're a minority or not there is a reason you choose the characters you do. Especially in a game where the characters are just a skin. From what you're saying it makes no difference if Claudette or Jake or Tapp is in the game, The game could be all Megs and Dwights and that would be acceptable. 90% of games have heterosexual white males or females as the main cast. I think there is value in wanting a diverse cast. Behaviour even said last year that in the past they hadn't taken a stance on the sexuality of their characters to be inclusive of everyone, but in the end said that this wasnt true the because they had created the full cast thinking they were straight.
Seeing a minority in a game symbolically says you exist, that you have value that your life experiences and struggles are worth a damn. In the end you can say that a person's sexuality or any other element of their identity that makes them a minority shouldn't matter. But the only reason anyone would say that is because it doesn't matter to you. I'm a gay white Male and I think there is value in having diversity, black females, Asian men or people who dont identify as a specific gender. In the end having representation makes the game and the community richer.
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I had a few marvel annuals as a kid where he'd appear as a background character in ensembles. I knew him as "that dude that kinda looks like Batman".
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