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Dead By Daylight: Diversity 2021
I have compiled a list of killers and survivors from multiple different backgrounds to help indicate what needs more representation to whom.
A Map of Nationalities
A List of Heritage
Looking back, isn't DBD one of the MOST diverse games out there?
Personally in the future, I would love to see more Hispanic/Latin Americans and other Asians.
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This map reminds me of Street Fighter.
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Id love an Australian killer and survivor. It feels like somewhere that could very easily offer interesting options for both
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Yeah, DbD was even initially pretty diverse with having Claudette, Jake and Wraith as characters.
i think diversity and being inclusive is actually something the devs care very deeply about, but they also don’t go down a list but make it naturally!
it doesn’t feel forced either way, except for many licensed characters that may kind of limit the options, but even then they did a damn great job in their selection there!
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To be honest if you take licensed characters out of this it looks even more diverse lol
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I’m pretty sure nurse is English, no?
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Id assume Meg and Kate have at least some Irish in them
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She worked in the asylum in the USA. It’s the same burned down building Nea went missing and Nea was living in the USA at that time.
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I thought Elodie was french
Edit: nvm I can't read
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If you wanted, you could probably figure out the heritage of a lot of these people based on their last name origin.
For example, Fredrick Kruger would be Saxon since Kruger is a very Saxon based name.
Michael myers with myers being a very European last name (found in Dutch, English, or German but all connected to Anglo-saxon)
Clown is Jeffrey Hawk with Hawk being a British based name.
Etc etc
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She is French Madagassian.
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Cruds, I missed that part out.
My bad people.
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Jeffrey Hawk is not his real name, he used it later to not be found.
his real name is Kenneth Chase, though, so your point still stands :)
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Ohh oops. Good catch. My bad.
But yeah OP if you wanted to complete this more you could check into last names place of origin.
Thanks for putting this together either way
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European*
Can't wait for a Killer with an Aussie accent!
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I'll be real, the people I remember having an Australian accent are Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin (whom I loved as a child, I was a Crocodile Hunter superfan at 3 years old lmao)
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Gosh, my bad.
I was like half asleep when I was making this :P
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I can see that you put a lot of effort into this map. But it's extremely arbitrary. What does it matter where a character comes from if their design is interesting?
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I totally agree with this but I'd also add Dingodile
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Because I think people, especially players want to have their nationalities/heritage represented.
Relatable characters often have something in common with you and if they are from the same country/culture that you are associated with, that makes it more immersive.
Of course, good content always comes first but as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with a little diversity and inclusiveness every now and then.
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Thanks for making this.
As someone with a ton of Greek heritage, I think it'd be cool to see a killer or survivor from there. But characters from Africa or India would also be cool as they aren't very well represented either.
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Poor Australians lol. A crocodile hunter themed killer wouldn't be so bad tbf.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a older woman (same age as Ace) from India as a badass survivor honestly !
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@Voodoo_Thirsty (Your comment was deleted for some reason so correct me if I misinterpreted something)
This notion that representation of real life people in fictional media matters in any way is, to put it bluntly, nonsense. The quality of any artistic work will never be dependant on what characters are included in it, unless perhaps to people that have an unusual interest in race.
It doesn't matter if every single character is from the same country. Non-existent or otherwise. Their design and how it's interwoven into the rest of the game is the only thing that matters.
I understand if this response seems harsh and unprovoked. But I've come across this line of thinking quite a few times on the forums and I feel a need to dispel it as it's a very narrow and crude way of looking at the media you consume: "It's good. But It'd be better if it had more of X race because there's too much of Y race".
Do not bother judging things by their ethnic background. Focus on it the ideas it presents and the execution of those ideas.
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*meet the sniper plays in the background*
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I like how you just shoved Demo and Pyramid Head in the ocean because you didn't know where they were from.
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It would probably be safe to put Legion with them (in the heritage section) since each member certainly doesn't have the same heritage lol
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It would be funny if they bypassed Aussie entirely and went for somewhere a little smaller...
Or included an Aboriginal Australian survivor.
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I get people wanting variety but I honestly find the entire concept of looking at people so intensely through their nationality very strange.
Like I don't go into some japanese anime game and think to myself, "you know what this game needs? More European people!" or whatever nationality you want to throw in there.
If it's an asian game I'm typically just expecting it to have asian characters, that isn't surprising to me nor would I call that an issue that needs resolving. That would be like taking issue with them being asian because you're not asian. See why it's weird to think that way?
I guess I just focus more on the individual as a person(not where they're from) which is why I find this concept weird. I like new and unique characters because they are in fact unique, not because they fill quotas.
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I mean for most shows/games they are taking place somewhere specific and it actually makes sense that for example in Japan there are mostly Japanese people.
but for Dead by Daylight, it just makes sense to have people from all over the place, as they are getting brought from their world to the Entity’s realm.
also, diversity doesn’t hurt anyone. But it can make people feel acknowledged/included when they don’t feel that way generally.
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No offense taken. :)
Your opinion is as good as mine.
I'm more on the side of showing more appreciation for more diverse culture.
Though I also agree with preventing forced inclusiveness.
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"I mean for most shows/games they are taking place somewhere specific and it actually makes sense that for example in Japan there are mostly Japanese people.
but for Dead by Daylight, it just makes sense to have people from all over the place, as they are getting brought from their world to the Entity’s realm."
That makes sense. I guess my point is that it's not being brought up from a place of "this game is technically located everywhere" and instead it's brought up in the sense of forced diversity quotas which feels discriminatory. I wouldn't want to be judged by my nationality but by the content of my character.
"also, diversity doesn’t hurt anyone. But it can make people feel acknowledged/included when they don’t feel that way generally."
Well for example let's say you had a cool concept for a samurai killer but oh wait, inclusivity, so you we make the samurai whatever other ethnicity. You just took that other persons position and gave it to another for the sake of their nationality, aka discrimination. Obviously these aren't real people but this is more a comment to "diversity doesn't hurt anyone", it can. I find "acknowledged/included" a very weird concept. In my previous example of an asian game I don't feel excluded because it's just asian characters, it's an asian made game, that just makes sense to me and is expected, it's logical. Why do people need to feel "acknowledged"? It's a game lol.
In other words I like the idea of unique characters from all over the world that get brought in because they have unique and cool stories that need to be included. What I don't like is forced quotas that look to put characters in because they fill the check mark next to that nationality etc. So I agree with the end result, it's the thought process and means to getting there I take issue with.
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DBD is pretty diverse. Take out the licensed characters, take out the killers, and it's a pretty good mix of characters. Though we do need some more hispanic characters. You won't see many games with even this level of diversity.
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yeah, that’s alright but.. this forced diversity does not happen in Dead by Daylight?
i agree forced diversity and inclusiveness is wrong and shouldn’t be in any media without context etc. But in DbD and especially with the devs we know they do it in a great way and because they actually want to do it.
there is no reason to assume they do it for the wrong reasons. We got a Kpop star that is Korean even though they already had ticked of the Korean department with Jake. We got Yui and Oni even though we already had Spirit as a ‚token’ Japanese character. They are not going after a checklist and creating token characters is what I am trying to say, they are creating the Chars they want to create and the storys the want to tell.
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I'm not necessarily implying the devs per say, but the aforementioned thought process was the rational I was getting from OP's use of words.
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I've always been curious about where The Trapper is actually from. They gave him a Skin that's a reference to My Bloody Valentine which is a old Horror film from the late 70's that's set in a small mining town in Nova Scotia. Kinda wonder if the Macmillan estate is in NS, would kind of be nice to have a stage that encorperates beaches and maybe a lighthouse.
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her backstory isnt so clear and it says anglo-american on the wiki so its hard to tell
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If I’m not mistaken isn’t Jeff originally Canadian? He has Norwegian roots but it never says how far back
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Zooming in here!
The Spirit and the Oni are Japanese, and Yun-Jin and the Trickster are Korean.
Not sure how old your graphic is and I didn't see a post about it yet, but I thought I'd drop a line about it just in case!
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You could probably put Pyramid Head in MAine, US. There's a lot of implications throughout SH2 and the entire series that he DID physically exist in some form outside of SH2. Be that in the otherworld or the real world.
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The devs are diverse except when it comes to the ages of female characters. Before Jane we didn't have any female that was older then her 20s. And even Jane is only in her 30s. Can we please get an old lady survivor BHVR?
Also side note, not every new survivor has to be attractive either.
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I came in expecting a complaint post about how diversity ruins games, because that's just how these forums are. Instead, I got a pretty cool chart and map of where the characters are from. I don't necessarily agree with some of the choices made, like licensed characters shouldn't be included in looking at diversity because the devs can't do anything about that, Jane, while definitely of latin descent, is American (her lore puts her father's house in New Jersey and her archive makes a big deal about her wanting to just be considered American), and Jamaica isn't part of Africa, so Adam should be put in a Caribbean section if you're going to do that. But other than some of these small nitpicks (and other things you might have forgotten such as Elodie's parents being from Madagascar), this was well done.
First paragraph of Trapper's archive firmly roots him in Seattle, Washington.
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Very well put together OP. This is one of the reasons that drew me to DBD initially, is seeing how much representation there is culturally. It gives the game a specific flavor that no other game has. Specifically when you talk about killers and start to wonder and ask “where do they come from??”. It’s just a cool element.
Personally I’d love to see more Latin American cultures in this game. There are a lot of specific folklore and legends of character within the horror genre that would be cool to see.
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Overwatch is WAY more diverse, There are only 4 american characters
Plus shouldn't zarina be in lebanon? if we're talking about where they are from zarina should be in lebanon but where they live? yeah she's in america obviously
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I guess the world map shows where they live and the other picture shows heritage (there Zarina is listed as Lebanese)
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I don't think so, Because adam should've been in japan since he lived there BEFORE taken by the entity
Same with wraith he went to america before taken by the entity
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Wasn't Adam just visiting though. Like it wasn't his permanent place of residence. He was just residing there for work.
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Slinger Irish? I thought he was american. Like he has Irish heritage but isn't really Irish imo. I am still holding out for a bean sí(banshee) as an actual Irish killer.
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new zealed before australia :D
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new survivor or killers from South East Asian, since many player of DBD mostly from Thai , Indonesia and Vietnam , Malaysia, Phillipines.
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Oh yeah you are right.. hmm info seems to be there in both pictures but not consistently portrayed then..
Pretty sure Adam moved there and wanted to start a new life? Could be wrong though.
but for Wraith he definitely lived in North America and not Africa anymore
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