Demo should be on C tier, he is meh at everything. He is just too average honestly. I have played quite a bit of demo, he has strengths and weaknesses, but nothing remarkable.

Yes, they are.

That's why there are different tier lists for Console because Nurse isn't nearly as good.

Clown can’t be the worst killer imo. Call me biased but he can get consistent downs and good chase

On current gen I’ve had no problem with nurse for the archive challenges. Sure I’m no god nurse but I could hit blinks pretty consistently for my hours on her

If we are talking difficult on current gen we’ll talk slinger. The game literally freezes when you ads making quick scoping very difficult

Same with Demo and Blight.

I started adding notes for things that I disagree with but it was easier to just say almost all of it I disagree with

i play on the ps4 slim and that doesnt happen?

If the majority of the playerbase can't use them to their full potential, then it affects the ranking.

Oni and PH are no way in hell bad tier.

At least you gave Legion their own tier though.

I'm looking at it in terms of high MMR. Against oni, if you don't try to loop, and just drop pallets, by the time oni gets a hit, you can get 3-4 gens done. Same for PH, just predrop pallets and hold w. Again, this is assuming High MMR play where your teammates actually do gens.

i never understood why clown is ranked so low, hes one of the killer that most survivors, atleast when i played him dont know how to counter him

Freddy's power isn't as good as people make it out to be. Snares are good at anti-loop. But snares are just clown's bottles with extra steps. The trick to them is to drop the pallet, or leave the loop. The better trick is to find the clocks and/or constantly wake yourself and teammates up. The latest nerf to make clocks even stronger counters this. Remember, if you aren't dreaming, freddy is an m1 killer.

His other part of his power is good, which is his teleport. But the cooldown on it is quite long when you keep yourself awake. Most people don't realize that the cooldown for his teleport is extremely long, but for each survivor dreaming, he gets it 15% faster. This means if you are all asleep, yeah he is teleporting every 20 seconds. But if everyone stays awake, he has no snares, and his teleport takes a very long time to come back.

In short, you pre-drop pallets (except at god loops like shack), and keep yourself awake and hold W, and he has no power. But, teleporting is still quite strong, and even though the cooldown can be made long, it is still a very powerful ability. Which is why he creeps up to high MMR viable IMO.

For huntress, she is good, but she is not able to zone out as well as deathslinger due to her hatchet windup, so it becomes a true mindgame at loops. Granted her snowball potential is far greater, she often can't use that if survivors are playing optimally (splitting up on 4 different gens).

Deathslinger on the other hand, gets to zone you by existing. A high MMR deathslinger is going to be able to aim and fire instantly and be able to pull of insane flick shots that you just can't do with huntress. On top of that, because he can aim nearly instantly, you can bait out survivors far more by just tapping the right mouse button which makes them lose distance. With huntress, as soon as you press that button, they can start juking and be assured that you can't catch up to them as well because she slows down. Deathslinger also slows down, but since his aiming is so quick it's nearly impossible to properly juke a good one.

Now, keep in mind that any killer where the strategy to beating them is to just "pre-drop pallets" is going to do very well in solo queue against what i call "normal" survivors. Because while you are being chased pre-dropping pallets, even if you never get hit, your team is usually doing #########-all and you end up wasting every pallet on the map very quickly.

However, with a team of survivors who are actually doing gens, even maps with only like 8 pallets are enough. By the time you get to the point you need to drop the pallet, you wasted probably around 20-30 seconds. Even if the killer leaves you to go after another survivor, you just immediately hop on the nearest gen. If every survivor plays it safe, plays optimally, and just pre-drops pallets, its going to take you 8 x 20 seconds to break all the pallets, which is 160 seconds. Given that a gen is 80 seconds, and there 3 survivors working on them, that is the game. Now of course sometimes you end up getting the survivor caught in a deadzone, or if they are solo they can't communicate which pallets are dropped, it still results in you likely losing 3 gens before you can even land a hit.

The problem in general with the balance of this game, is the power of holding w, and just dropping pallets. If survivors all play optimally and do this, the killer is often lucky if they even get a single hook, with the exception of nurse and spirit. This is why survivors (myself included) often hate playing against nurse (only good ones) and spirit. Against nurse, the only thing you can do is be better than the nurse, which against good nurses, is very very hard. Against a spirit, the strategy is again, to pre-drop pallets. But unlike clown/freddy, all this does is create a 50/50 and she rarely has to actually break the pallet.

Nurse and spirit quite frankly don't even play the same game that other killers are playing.

I play this game on pc and console and I’ve never had this problem.

Think you need to sweep some dust off of your console :P

Lol that Plague placement is nonsense.

She's actually amazing.

Also that Oni placement is ridiculous and it doesn't matter how you try to explain it away, we all know Oni is one of the best killers in the game so why waste your time?