Is Flashlight Save Toxic?
Today i played some solo survivor matches. And i love use flashlight. I saved 3 times my teammates with flashlight. For that i get facecamp. I have not problem with that because killer wanted out me possibly.
Anyway my 3 teammates escaped and i wrote gg wp killer. He called me toxic kid. And i made him day bad. I said "i am sorry but i was just playing game. I hope you will get better games." I do not know how using flashlight is toxic. Can anyone explain?
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No it isn't as well as camping ,tunneling etc etc
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No, it's not.
If someone gets mad at you for flashlight saving and camps you for it, they're assmad that you completely outplayed them and can't reconcile that fact.
Feel good about it.
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No. My thoughts on this lately is losing in this game results in a lot of things being labeled as toxic by the losing party.
There were probably a slew of mistakes made that led to the killers loss and the flashlight save being a more obvious one.
I think often times being ‘just a person’ in the end game chat is the best response, like OP above wrote an example of.
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There is nothing toxic in the game, except for the end chat. I, as a killer main, have absolutely nothing against flashlight saves. It's a legitimate strategy. But that also includes tunneling or camping.
Some people should just be a little more chill and not scream "toxic" at everything.
"And i made him day bad"
Oh dear, the poor guy :)
Edit: Just try to ignore the stupid comments after a match. In the end, it only deprives you of the fun of the game.
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Flashlight saves are not only part of the game, but are an integral part of survivor gameplay. Are the survivors just supposed to stay frozen in place and watch the killer hook the survivor?
No, you make that mofo's hook as hard as possible to get. You played well and you even made the killer salty as a result. Congrats :)
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Some people can't get past that not everything is toxic they clearly don't know the difference between toxic and general gameplay
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Thank you guys. I did not mean annoy him. I just wanted keep him in loops and buy time for my team. But he gave me good chance to save my teammates. I just saved them.
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If the flashlight uses a fluorescent light bulb, it more than likely contains elements of mercury.
Therefore yes, flashlights and their associated saves can absolutely be considered toxic!
Otherwise, I don't see an issue.
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That last line is a weird thing to say. This whole game is about doing stuff to hurt the other side, which in turn ruins their fun. I don't think flashlights are only using them to hurt the killer.
I love flashlights. I use them a lot, especially with my friends who aren't as good in chases because it helps keep them alive. I'm not using them to just purely annoy the killer.
Flashlight clickers are a different story. Same with just general toxic survivors who might t-bag or do other stuff.
It's good you agree it's a valid game mechanic. I just couldn't not say something about that last sentence sorry.
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Yes everything is toxic. Playing survivor is also toxic. So therefore you are toxic.
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It's not toxic. People overuse/misuse the word "toxic" for anything that they don't like. Being blinded is not fun for the killer, though, and if it costs them a hook, especially if it was after a long chase, then that can destroy their pressure and they're not going to thank you for it.
It sounds like this killer screwed up bad, though. After the first blind, they should've been on the lookout for future flashlight saves. If they didn't bother to try to counter it, that's on them. Personally, I run Lightborn 100% of the time, because other than slugging everyone before hooking I haven't been able to reliably counter flashlights ever since dedicated servers became a thing; I've been blinded by flashlights outside of my FOV and even when facing a wall.
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Doing flashlight saves isn't toxic. It's very frustrating to have happen after a long chase, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a special dislike for the player that repeatedly tries to flashlight save, but you're there to help your team, not the other team. Flashlight clicking is BMing, but flashlight saving is just using the item for its intended purpose (much like keying out of the game versus fast vaulting and making sure the killer comes over to the hatch so you can tbag him before you key out.)
About the only situation I would consider flashlight saving to be nasty is if you're playing against a baby killer who very clearly has no idea what they're doing, they get their first down at like 4 gens done, and then you dive in and flashlight save - because at that point, it's just completely unnecessary to try and roll back the little pressure they have. Not exactly toxic unless it's in conjunction with other baiting behaviors, but pretty unkind to do.
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No. Plain and simple.
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Flashlight saves are literally a mechanic of the game, no it’s not toxic.
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No I just don't like being flashlight blinded from the side.
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You are wayyyy too apologetic to people who don't give a single crap about what you are like in-game in return. You should loosen up a bit, if your opponent is mad at you for playing a certain way, that's their problem not yours, there's no need to apologise for it, because they sure as hell won't apologise back for how they're playing.
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If he keep getting blinded then he need to check his surroundings.
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The entire purpose of the flashlight is to blind the killer for a save isn't it?
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Flashlight saves are a mechanic in the game, so no, it's not toxic. You're just trying to help your teammates.
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Yes because there's no real purpose for it other than that. Imagine if there was actually a map that was dark enough you had to use a flashlight.
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Its not toxic its just annoying when someone stalks you for the entire game to try to get them.
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No, it's not Toxic. It will probably upset the killer, though. Much like camping isn't Toxic, but it'll probably upset the survivor.
I'll take the person following me around all game every time. Cause they aren't working on gens.
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Not toxic for sure. Frustrating as a killer to get flashlight saved but yeah, not toxic for sure.
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People like to throw word Toxic around a lot. There is nothing toxic about flashlight, tunneling, tbagging and camping. The real toxicity is in the post game chat
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Toxic? not when it comes to saves. Yet if after the second blind you can tell that the killer may not be wary of what's happening or the game mechanics and you continue to blind them? that's a little bully-esque of you.
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People who join with random strangers on the net that they met in game for the sole purpose of using discord to its full potential and winning every game is toxic.
People who know each other irl and use discord is less toxic
Flashlights are not toxic, annoying yes but not toxic when used for the intended use.
Strobing the killers face with a flashlight is toxic and can cause a seizure so should really really be fixed.. but it is bhvr and won't be unless some big wig is about to make bad press on the issue (colour blind options)
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Its anoying for sure, but as long as you don't spam click flashlight after save and tbag its not toxic.
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Yes, using game mechanics in their intended way is very toxic. /s
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It's the main reason flashlights are included in the game. There is rift pass challenges associated with it.
However, the killer is often not going to forgive or forget the rescuer. Which is natural vengeance.
What spikes me is this annoying mosquitoes who purposefully follow killers around the map, and as soon as you go to pick up a teammate...*click*...there they are...again.
Had one of these little turds yesterday. A masked Nea skin. Was gleefully taking the piss with the flashlight. One time she got me after she DS'ed me, and stunned me multiple times in the process. She was really enjoying herself. Unfortunately for her and his team of merry men, I destroyed them using Starstruck while they attempted to open the exit gate. Yes: I stood at Nea's hook and nodded as she went on a trip to Entityville.
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Ofcourse it was Nea. Always she is.
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I am months late but here I am.
It's not unless your ticking it.
I just ticking at unstop after dropping a survivor by their flashlight
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Using a flashlight as intended isn't toxic.
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No, flashlight saves are not toxic. However, it’s way too easy to get ridiculous angles for saves so that needs to get looked at.
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In-game actions are not toxic but people use the word toxic so many times in DBD for no reason
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Toxic? not really, anoying? very much so.
But in all honesty killers are left locked in many animations with long cooldowns wich just adds to the frustration of spending a lot of time waiting for the killers to stop picking their nouse while the survivors are running around you like headless chickens, so as a killer i can say i hate when it happens but just because it anoys me to stare at that screen, but no, its not toxic.
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Definitely not toxic, it's a mechanic of the game. But at the same time, so is tunneling and camping. If the killer decides it's in their best interest to remove you from the game in the most for sure way possible because they don't want to deal with the threat of being flashed, that's fair game.
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Is isn't toxic, just like camping or using NOED isn't toxic for killer. You are simply using what is at your disposal. If you got him 3 different times, he is to blame for at least 2 of them. Sure the first time I understand because he wasn't expecting it, but after a killer deals with a flashlight save once, a smart killer will check the area before picking the survivor up next time.
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You can abuse the flashlight by blinding from the side of the killer. So even if the killer tries to look away, it doesn't matter. You can just move to the side a little, the Killer can't see you and thinks you are still behind him, and now you blind him from the side angle.
It's toxic. Yes it is toxic. Flashlights should be removed from the game.
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starting a match is toxic.
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